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[Ausuka]

Day 4.2

ActionDan (3) - Flavor Leaf, Doctor Drew, Hu Tao
SirCakez (3) - Titus, Theta Alpine, Roden
Theta Alpine (1) - SirCakez

Not Voting

- ActionDan, Aureal, biancospino, Thomith

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Day 4

concludes in (expired on 2024-01-28 10:15:45)

[ActionDan]

VOTE: biancospino

What possessed you to make this vote after seeing bianco do nothing twice?

[ActionDan]

Yeah, there’s just very few worlds where Dan is town here.

Maestro was actively playing against wincon if Dan and Maestro were unaligned.

Dan also specifically targeted Maestro one of the nights, so that could even been a night of conversion (was this Night 1?) and then the next day the two teamed up onto RR.

I just think logically and objectively Dan is scum. He’s townie by town to me, though.

Maestro didn't hammer me. My only explanation for it at this point is human error. If it was anti wincon it would be beneath me to speculate why.

This is a good weighty reason for my fade. But it is the only reason.

Every other piece of evidence in the game supports the opposite conclusion. You just learned that scum unstoppable doesn't affect RR ability. It counters me and drew. And if I'm group scum then it does 0. And then nice useless info you got there. You sure there's no alarm bells ringing? Because your posts are devolving into willful ignorance.

Also thoughts on Hu Tao? Or are we turning a blind eye to that too.

[SirCakez]

If I flip town will people still charge after cakez for nebulous non-existant reasons?

This will always happen to me no matter what lol

[SirCakez]

FL it would be cool if you could talk to me and not just compromise on me again

Yeah.

VOTE: Dan

I’m gonna sit here at the very least.

I do not really have a strong read on you either way, and my read on you is based on my read on Dan, and how everything seemed to group around them, which got confirmed when Maestro fell on the sword to die instead of Dan.

I don't really get groupscum vibes from Dan at all though, I feel he's most likely convert/traitor if scum

[SirCakez]

Roden, what do you think of Cakez?

I think he's more likely group scum than Dan

Maestro's play makes sense if the point of their shenanigans was to make everyone look at them and Dan and distract us from Cakez.

This doesn't even make sense, Maestro's play drew wayyy more attention to everyone in the FG and now the lim today seems to be between Dan and I

[Thomith]

I feel like there is just a world where Maestro actually thought they were self hammering.

[Aureal]

VOTE: ActionDan

Getting tired of this trying to make hay out of anything and everything

[ActionDan]

That's the nature of the beast that is Mafia. Are you upset I asked you a question about your vote?

[ActionDan]

Another thing to make (more) hay of ere we turn our brains off, is that Drew's role is probably not just useless if me/cakez are group scum but in my opinion bastard. Because town would be better served if he never used it tje entire game

[Aureal]

I don't think you AND Cakez are groupscum, but one of you pretty much has to be

[ActionDan]

Why

[ActionDan]

Like when I flip town why would you have to go cakez for example. How does that follow?

[Aureal]

Where the hell else am I supposed to look? I refuse to believe Drew or Leaf would be scum here. Thomith and bianco's roles indicate likely not groupscum. Titus just boggles me and everyone else seems to think she's town for reasons I can't fathom. Hu may be a convert but I think we've covered why she's not groupscum. That leaves me with an actionable pool of you, Cakez, Roden, and Theta. I've never bought into your defensiveness of the friendship group: it clearly seems to be a group where scum get to have the info they need to target who they want but also have a higher risk of being blocked due to the within-group protections. It's a tradeoff- higher risk for higher reward. Just having a traitor in there makes no sense, especially if you somehow think Maestro wasn't the original but a recruit.

I'm also noting that you're calling out Hu as being converted N1 but haven't pointed out that this would make her claimed inno on Roden invalid.

[ActionDan]

Yes the inno is invalid. I still think roden is town. Same with Thomith, no inno required. In group protections do not affect FG members. I docced drew, cakez watched Drew, cakez didn't see me visit Drew. E.g.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hu Tao feels like Hu Tao when they replaced into my BooneyToonz game, and they were town like this.

That being said, I have recently been hard pushing Hu Tao town.

That also being said, same thing happened in Blood for Utopia and they were scum.

[Titus]

Hu Tao could be converted and wanting to undo the inno on Roden.

[SirCakez]

I don't think you AND Cakez are groupscum, but one of you pretty much has to be

This is a bad take

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t there has to be Groupscum in them, i think there is most likely group scum in them, though

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t believe Maestro did some next level association pairing with the two of you tbh

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao could be converted and wanting to undo the inno on Roden.

What does this even mean

[Hu Tao]

To my understanding the chat thing last night blocked all actions? Is that why I was not culted? Genuinely confused here

[Thomith]

To my understanding the chat thing last night blocked all actions? Is that why I was not culted? Genuinely confused here

We are assuming the conversion is a factional action.
The dance night prevents all actions shared by multiple players, and locked all other PTs, so to the best of our knowledge it should have.

[Hu Tao]

Action needs to be gone. He's spouting too much anti-hu taoness for me.

[Hu Tao]

To my understanding the chat thing last night blocked all actions? Is that why I was not culted? Genuinely confused here

We are assuming the conversion is a factional action.
The dance night prevents all actions shared by multiple players, and locked all other PTs, so to the best of our knowledge it should have.

Okay thanks