meIn post 14, Sakura Hana wrote: Btw disclaimer that i know nothing about the flavor
as usual idk shit about mech and flavor solves so im counting on someone else to do that
VOTE: penguinpower for betraying the greens
meIn post 14, Sakura Hana wrote: Btw disclaimer that i know nothing about the flavor
yeah he is scum for sureIn post 33, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: sakura town for refusing my advances
alisae town for wanting to yeet kawaii
im so good at this game sometimes
He is scumIn post 328, Dunnstral wrote: Do you have a reason for suspecting Pooky?
Duelist didn't even post on the page you posted this, this doesn't make any sense
I feel like this is a weak spot to end up after the barrage of posts before this
yes that's exactly what happenedIn post 192, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 186, SirCakez wrote: oh man i am not in a good mood rn maybe i should come back here later
rofl did cakeboi just vote me and get scared and run away
I like this post it feels like genuine aggrievementIn post 214, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: It's also exasperating that 205 is both an actual answer to my question and a turn of phrase that looks like a deflection at first glance - I feel like I'm talking to Riddler right now not Penguin
come on look at this bs, Pooky couldn't make a bigger stretch if he worked at a chewing gum factoryIn post 244, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:no i was just joking around about town having trouble reading me because mafia dont need to read meIn post 243, Gamma Emerald wrote: I’m not claiming my read accuracy on you is perfect, I know that’s bogus. I am saying I have read you on miniscule evidence previously, and you seemed to be denying that? My read on you only really got serious once you did that.
saying that town has trouble reading me doesnt mean that all town has trouble reading me
In post 259, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:seeing this made me realize i completely forgot to move cakez's name in my reads list and ill just make it ambiguous bc its more fun that way
VOTE: sircakez
ah okayIn post 337, Dunnstral wrote:I believe Cephrir is referring to page 1, and the pages they haven't read are 2-6In post 334, SirCakez wrote:Duelist didn't even post on the page you posted this, this doesn't make any sense
such a bad loaded questionIn post 437, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:whats townie about cakezIn post 412, Klick wrote: Someone convince me Cakez is scum because I'm inclined to think otherwise atm but I've been inaccurate on Cakez before
Also @Ali what kind of confidence do you have about Luka!town
so what's your overall take on that slot thenIn post 444, Dunnstral wrote: I don't like the way Big Chungus Gaming is interacting with Klick slot, but do like the way they are interacting with T3
pretty much the lowest of LHF votes possible hereIn post 446, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:have you considered our lord and savior "sort by postcount" though?In post 444, Dunnstral wrote: I don't like the way Big Chungus Gaming is interacting with Klick slot, but do like the way they are interacting with T3
VOTE: jjh
townie thoughts hereIn post 473, Klick wrote: Not really sure, it's been a while since I've thought about Cakez and I don't have a great record of reading him
That's why I was looking for why people think he's scum
bruh I caught you in the first 24 hoursIn post 477, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh im not even sure if he has a train of thoughtIn post 471, Klick wrote: He seems kinda confident and is saying things that make me go 'hm okay I could see you having this train of thought as town'
there's definitely scum in here regardless of jjh alignment imo, this wagon is terrible
scummy ass reaction, "why fry me" esque
I don't believe his confidence (I know he's always blustery and faux confident but I don't buy it here) or his reads, they feel made up and this was strengthened when he immediately attacked me when I entered voting him, he knows hes not gonna get anywhere with me on his ass so he has to get rid of me first. yIn post 542, Sakura Hana wrote:Could you explain your read?In post 541, SirCakez wrote:bruh I caught you in the first 24 hoursIn post 477, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh im not even sure if he has a train of thoughtIn post 471, Klick wrote: He seems kinda confident and is saying things that make me go 'hm okay I could see you having this train of thought as town'
In 182 I voted him bc I always have to enter approaching him as if he's scum bc we are rarely the same alignment and he completely bamboozled me one time in 3p once so I can never trust him again <3In post 547, Sakura Hana wrote:I see, can you explain why you entered voting him? As in, what gave you impression of him being scum? You can link posts because to me it felt a bit early to have that "confidence" you showed.In post 545, SirCakez wrote: I don't believe his confidence (I know he's always blustery and faux confident but I don't buy it here) or his reads, they feel made up and this was strengthened when he immediately attacked me when I entered voting him, he knows hes not gonna get anywhere with me on his ass so he has to get rid of me first. y
what's wrong with my analysisIn post 565, T3 wrote:In post 544, SirCakez wrote:scummy ass reaction, "why fry me" esqueWould Cakez really have such poor analysis as scum???In post 545, SirCakez wrote:I don't believe his confidence (I know he's always blustery and faux confident but I don't buy it here) or his reads, they feel made up and this was strengthened when he immediately attacked me when I entered voting him, he knows hes not gonna get anywhere with me on his ass so he has to get rid of me first. yIn post 542, Sakura Hana wrote:Could you explain your read?In post 541, SirCakez wrote:bruh I caught you in the first 24 hoursIn post 477, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:bruh im not even sure if he has a train of thoughtIn post 471, Klick wrote: He seems kinda confident and is saying things that make me go 'hm okay I could see you having this train of thought as town'
Nice Klick post, definitely a bad take from WhemeStarIn post 624, Klick wrote:I disagree with this as reasoning on quite a few levels -In post 621, WhemeStar wrote:Dunn you and I share very similar bottom scumreadsIn post 619, Klick wrote:I still don't actually know what this meansIn post 611, WhemeStar wrote: Dunn and mines bottom tier is mostly the same as yours so I don’t see how town you reads 2 ppl as scummy if they share similar views as you
It makes 0 sense for town you to have those bottom scumreads and also scumread Dunn and I
1. I don't actually have a conscious awareness of yours and Dunn's scumreads, and didn't when I developed my reads. My read on yourself and Dunn is independent of your reads on anyone else.
2. The bottom reads themselves are not particularly controversial, I don't think? To the point where I wouldn't be surprised if there were, say, three scum in my bottom six, and the last partner decided to have their scumbuddies all towards the bottom.
3. I also don't think my lower reads at this stage are powerful enough to justify them shifting my view of other players based on them. If anything, the bottom of my list is the bottom mostly because the top have pulled away from them, not the other way around.
4. I don't even scumread you or Dunnstral.
why do you even feel the need to town case yourself already?In post 642, Luka wrote: Quick town case on myself actually
While nothing ive done is AI so far, what I havent done is 100% AI. On a new forum I leverage people not knowing my scum meta and I'd probably just deep wolf. I think I would be able to do it effectively as well; im nigh uncatchable as wolf w/o meta. It's what allows me to demolish anon games. On forums that people are familiar with me on I normally don't tryhard so I dont get meta caught, but as a wolf here I would 100% immediently come in guns blazing with cases and stuffs.
can we start a Big Chungus wagon? they are literally doing nothingIn post 781, Cephrir wrote:1.In post 780, Klick wrote:In post 31, Alisae wrote:In post 107, Luka wrote:In post 123, T3 wrote:1. I want to know what your strongest reads are at this moment. Which players do you have the most confidence in just being town? Which players do you have a particularly bad feeling about, even if you can't currently justify it? I want to know the opinions that matter most to you atm.In post 146, Cephrir wrote:
2. Following that, I also want to know what you all think of the following slots:
{STD, Gamma, Penguin, Pooky, Chungus, jjh}
(I'm not solely limited to focusing on those slots, that's just where my own PoE has me atm and I want something to more meaningfully sort between them.)
My end goal is to push the game in a positive direction. I am seeing a lack of cohesion/willingness to drive the game forward all around, and my intention is to change that and get pressure on high equity scum slots.
I also want to trial what happens if I just openly and transparently do this, as opposed to doing it the inconspicuous way. It seems like a good opportunity to try it, considering the stagnant game state.
Sircakez town
Wheme town
Luka town
Chungus scum
2
STD I need more to work with
Gamma don't know... I resolved to pay attention to her and then didn't
Penguin thought he was town earlier but feeling less sure now
pooky I've had as a suspect but I'm starting to doubt it with the borderline self destructing he's been doing on the last couple pages
Chungus' brief blaze of light died out quickly
Jjh honestly his last post just viscerally fills me with a sense that he will never post in this game again. But for now anyone who says they have a read on this person is fooling themselves
now I can get behind this
i agree with this it seems like big chungus manufactured that for defense purposesIn post 866, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think this is an opinion you had before, actually, and instead seems to be a reaction to seeing my read on you.In post 863, Big Chungus Gaming wrote: still not worth pushing d1 or even d2 but i trust pooky explicitly while dunns i think is a very "must watch carefully" slot still
yeah this is a totally bs reads list too, how is jjh really a bottom tier scum read?? And how am I there with StD and jjh, there has been literally no mention of this until now, it just looks like chungus picked who seemed like viable wagonsIn post 868, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:I think a better and more brief demonstration of how recent content has adjusted my view without being like "all of it" because some things lead to others etc, is to show where ive moved based on catch up reading:In post 417, Big Chungus Gaming wrote: ssbm_Kyouko
pookythemagicalbear
Alisae
Whemestar
Dunnstral
T3
KawaiiKame
Sakura Hana
Cephrir
Penguinpower
Gamma Emerald
SirCakez
Save the Dragons
Luka
jjh927
Duelist Kage
it would be hilarious if the exact scumteam was the 2nd tier bc it would be extremely on brand for my d1 reads but here is where im at, actually fully ordered without forgetting anyone
ssbm_Kyouko
pookythemagicalbear
Alisae
Whemestar
Sakura Hana
T3
KawaiiKame
Luka
Klick
Dunnstral
Cephrir
Gamma Emerald
Penguinpower
SirCakez
Save the Dragons
jjh927
"but bcg you only have 3 names in the bottom" - yes but I'll be concerned about that later rather than now, I now feel the vibe of there being a scum influence in some of the discussion and I am unsure who but again, thats a future problem while theres other slots to go fo
VOTE: save the dragons
In post 901, Alisae wrote: Ok I’ve seen enough the day 1 elimination is cakez guys
I enjoyed my rantIn post 910, Big Chungus Gaming wrote: dont mean to interrupt your confbias rant where you totally dont look unhinged, but thats a list of players from towniest to least towny
it was just a vibe thus the ???In post 922, Save The Dragons wrote: i don't recall u asking why i thought sircakez was scum
i feel like his takes are pretty bad and just kind of thrown out there
like the big chungus bussing me take seems kind of out of left field where does that come from
because it was the first one I saw after Cephs post that made me want to wagon bcgIn post 945, PenguinPower wrote:why'd you call out my vote specifically?
657 looks like a town mindset Pooky, I'm not sure he could have written that from scum PoVIn post 954, Luka wrote:If you were that confident before, why did you suddenly drop the read?In post 900, SirCakez wrote: ok 657 actually seems legit :///
why is big chungus townIn post 957, Luka wrote:So far you're 0/2 on good pushes.In post 907, SirCakez wrote: now I can get behind this
this is a pretty bad reads list no way I'm your only SR rn and having no take on Dunn, StD or Big Chungus when those are three highly discussed slots is a cop outIn post 978, Alisae wrote: 1. jjh927 - please post
2. Gamma Emerald - i remember townreading but I don't remember need to re-eval
3. Sakura Hana - town
4. Dunnstral - don't remember any posts
6.pookythemagicalbear - town
7. SirCakez - mafia
Luka - town
9. Klick - town
10. Whemestar - town
11. Save the Dragons - unreadable
12. Cephrir - town
13. Big Chungus Gaming - cannot determine alignment
14. Penguinpower - gun to head town?
15. KawaiiKame - town
16. ssbm_Kyouko - town
17. T3 - Klick said they're town I sure hope that's sheepable but I can just sit on this for a bit ig they don't die anytime soon
nah BCG is being actively scummy here not just D1 not town lookingIn post 989, Klick wrote: I think the same could be said for BCG, and I'm kinda fine with that wagon reaching elimination as well in a vacuum
In post 994, Luka wrote:Uhm I dunnno townie mindset gut feels I forgot everything they posted alreadyIn post 966, SirCakez wrote:why is big chungus townIn post 957, Luka wrote:So far you're 0/2 on good pushes.In post 907, SirCakez wrote: now I can get behind this
This vote sucks
c'mon I can't buy this, I often find it tough to read Cephrir but this game I have been able to figure out where his heads at pretty easilyIn post 1077, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:ive been patient, cephrir, but I am certainly finding it difficult to track any sort of thought process that actually led you naturally to finding me as scum. This post in particular was a big red flag at the time, but I opted to not comment at the time. It felt very "oh great you're trying to do something thats effective for you" but like theres no reason to think this is some scum plot.In post 561, Cephrir wrote:oh, it's probably that i think you're scumIn post 524, Big Chungus Gaming wrote: Now let's do my bottom 4 excluding jjh...
Kage/klick, Luka, STD, cakez. I wanna hear what puts me under these names
i know better than to meet you on a battlefield of your choosing, but at least this frustrating version of you is closer to what i was expecting
When relooking at this ISO and holistically tracking your mentions of my slot, and looking at the context of my content - I find your read on me to be forced to some degree by some aspect.
Now - I want you to tell me what shortcut read you made because otherwise the only other conclusion I draw here is that you are scum who pulled the read out of your ass.
how is Gamma playing like a deep wolf?In post 1088, Big Chungus Gaming wrote: regardless if my gamma playing "deepwolf" read is wrong and it is just cakez im only 3/4 if it is STD, big sadge.
This is a very misleading narrative constructionIn post 1110, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think the way he pushed me was disingenuous and convoluted. It felt like he had not overarching point and relied on weird verbal tricks to dance around me instead of sorting me. I felt that he never really felt curious about my alignment and wanted to project a lot of certainty about me being mafia which doesn't make sense to me because town!him has never been very good at catching me when I'm mafia like ever. He fell back to wild levels of ate and then quietly shrunk off to vote STD instead when it looked like he was getting nowhere instead of trying to convince anyone I am mafia.In post 1109, KawaiiKame wrote:What's your scum case on duun? I haven't read his iso.In post 1107, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: i think the fact that absolutely no1 wants to help me vote dunnstral means he's just mafia
who is the scum on your wagon besides Ceph and me?In post 1123, Big Chungus Gaming wrote: i do think that the wagon on me is overwhelmingly pushed by scum/willage and sometimes the line is hard to discern lmao
Who is town binning Pooky? I found one post of his to be compelling but I still wouldn't trust the dude with a ten foot poleIn post 1173, Dunnstral wrote: I don't find the extreme omgus and bad faith arguments coming from Big Chungus Gaming slot to be town
I don't think Pooky is town either
It is annoying to me that both are being binned as town for wall posting arguments without really reading into the arguments. That's the feeling I get at least.
What does this mean? Seems pretty obvious to me Gamma scumreads you from that postIn post 1228, Cephrir wrote:Why doesn't this post contain a readIn post 1220, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: cephrir
I feel like this is a decently scumread player with little motion to actually start anything there, I’m changing that
yeah I have to agree with BCG on this one, it felt pretty clear to meIn post 1245, Big Chungus Gaming wrote:again, trying to paint something that looks weird on surface level as something scummy.In post 1238, Cephrir wrote:she dances around actually saying it, making it out like her vote is about game health or somethingIn post 1234, SirCakez wrote:What does this mean? Seems pretty obvious to me Gamma scumreads you from that postIn post 1228, Cephrir wrote:Why doesn't this post contain a readIn post 1220, Gamma Emerald wrote: VOTE: cephrir
I feel like this is a decently scumread player with little motion to actually start anything there, I’m changing that
the implication by voting there is clear.
lets pull something out of your hat of logic though, you must be only saying this because they are voting you
how so
I have to vote this bullshitIn post 1307, Alisae wrote: I'm too town for elim and I don't even have to try hard to do it
like to me that post is just worded weirdly but it just seems like a posting style thing to me because I had the same thought
oops I definitely missed bcgs question at the bottom of that pageIn post 1365, Sakura Hana wrote:Just because you can figure out where Ceph sees doesnt mean others should be able to, also you dont explain when BCG asks you to. Heck, even Ceph himself cant explain the vibes to me (his TR) when prompted to, what makes you think you can?
Are you asking for my current read on BCG or Ceph's? I definitely don't feel as strongly that Chungus is scum w their second half of day posts. That's partially why I moved to Alisae wagon (mostly just because e is playing like a shitter rn though)In post 1368, Sakura Hana wrote:This is a lot better than what you said before because it looked fake to me, I don't see how Ceph got to the BCG vote, and i dont see any re-evaluating after BCG's more recent posts which solidified my townread there, which means the read must be pretty strong, but i dont see how something out of "vibes" can be that strong. What's your take on it?In post 1367, SirCakez wrote: I saw the way Ceph got to the BCG vote, ya he did not explain it much but that's Ceph for you and his frustrations with the slot that led to the vote seem genuine
Ok aside from BCG - what are ur reads on Alisae, Gamma and Sakura? These are some slots I'm trying to sort rnIn post 1374, Cephrir wrote:I can answer questions if you want.In post 1372, SirCakez wrote: For my read on Ceph ATM - I had a few questions over his more recent posts but he seems v frustrated so I want to give him some space to figure stuff out rn
I would be in a better place to show I'm town if I talk about a subject other than BCG tho.
Unrelated, I feel like kawaii's post quality is taking a dive and I'd like to know whether klick finds it significant or thinks this is in line w/ his stuff
bruh don't try to psychoanalyze me here when you aren't even playing the gameIn post 1408, Alisae wrote:this is a wolfclaim from cakez btw.In post 1362, SirCakez wrote:I have to vote this bullshitIn post 1307, Alisae wrote: I'm too town for elim and I don't even have to try hard to do it
VOTE: alisae
I know him enough to know this