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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:10 pm

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In post 397, Klick wrote: So what made you townread Rat?
Ok if you won't show your math, that's cool

It was Rat's confidence when going back and forth with you that makes me think they are town.

And it is the way you wilted, like you knew you wouldn't be able to make them look bad since they were looking so town, so you had to do a hard left turn and somehow decide they are town.

Which ya, makes me town read Rat more

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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:13 pm

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Cool, so we townread Rat for essentially the same reasons

It shouldn't be that unreasonable that I decided Rat was town as a result of my chat with them, when you decided Rat was town as a result of my chat with them
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:15 pm

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In post 396, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 360, Klick wrote: I feel like the things I've said to RR have gone in one ear and out the other
Ok I will help you out.

How did you go from here...
In post 367, Klick wrote: Meh
All I can really say is that I disagree with your interpretation of Gimli's behavior and think your confidence is unjustified
I think you're probably town from this exchange fwiw!
And then two posts later go to here(your posts not total game posts).
360 isn't a statement of suspicion on Rat
If you look at my immediately preceding posts, 354 and 357 of mine suggest I'm already leaning towards Rat!town by that point
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:17 pm

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In post 400, Doctor Drew wrote:It was Rat's confidence when going back and forth with you that makes me think they are town.

And it is the way you wilted, like you knew you wouldn't be able to make them look bad since they were looking so town, so you had to do a hard left turn and somehow decide they are town.
Like I don't get how you post the first sentence and think 'yeah that's reasonable' and then post the second sentence and think 'yeah Klick had to SOMEHOW decide Rat was town' instead of me using, you know, the same evidence as you
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:27 pm

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Feel free to point at what part of my engagement with Radical Rat seems to have the goal of *making them look bad*
I feel like Rat's own assumption of me 'manipulating them into townreading me' has more merit as an idea than me trying to make them look scummy based on how that conversation developed
I was looking for direct engagement with Radical Rat and tried to flesh out their perspective and where it differed from my own
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:27 pm

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Anyway goodnight people
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:20 pm

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T-Bone is being replaced. Stand by.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:47 pm

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In post 406, Enchant wrote:
T-Bone is being replaced. Stand by.
The Pain Remains....
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:14 pm

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In post 403, Klick wrote:
In post 400, Doctor Drew wrote:It was Rat's confidence when going back and forth with you that makes me think they are town.

And it is the way you wilted, like you knew you wouldn't be able to make them look bad since they were looking so town, so you had to do a hard left turn and somehow decide they are town.
Like I don't get how you post the first sentence and think 'yeah that's reasonable' and then post the second sentence and think 'yeah Klick had to SOMEHOW decide Rat was town' instead of me using, you know, the same evidence as you
That is possible, I did look back and saw some progression
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:36 pm

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In post 406, Enchant wrote:
T-Bone is being replaced. Stand by.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:45 pm

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I'll catch up tomorrow
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:02 am

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Little Will o' Wisp replaces T-Bone. Welcome!
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:37 am

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Currently catching up...
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:08 am

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In post 378, Gimli wrote: have a pretty busy day so I can't be around rn

I read the game before going to bed which served to strenghten my klick and cuddle townreads, especially the latter's scumcase on me is very towny. I did like RR's push on klick on a townposting level, as it came across as genuine.

HPE seems detached from the game and I'm ready to flip it (sorry for always flipping you though, HPE)

Gimliiiiiii

Stop pocketing meeeeee :(

It's not faaaaaaair!

Must resist pocket!
Can't resist pocket...
UNVOTE:
But what if he's Kira?
VOTE: Gimli
But what if he's not Kira and I am going to mislim him again and feel really bad?
UNVOTE:
But you know you can vote Gimli without limming him, right?
Ugh, fine
VOTE: Gimli
Alright, I will keep this vote until either Gimli posts more towny things or I find a better person to wagon. Or one of my other heads finds a better person to wagon.

Yes, I am aware that this is performative. That's kinda my thing. Doesn't mean it's not a true (albeit somewhat exaggerated) representation of my thoughts.


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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:14 am

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In post 377, Aureal wrote:
In post 356, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
In post 353, Aureal wrote:
In post 348, CUDDLE TIME wrote: Reading Aureal's post: yes, jarring is exactly the word to describe that pivot.

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And so was yours, lol

I'll consider your case later, my brain is breaking down at this point since I've been sitting here trying to figure out what people are thinking for way too long, it's giving me a headache and I need lunch and my initial feelings are that we're all just town getting jumpy because things feel too easy.
Understandable, have a good lunch.

Who are the obvious scum in the scenario where the game is "too easy"? I don't really see any "obvious" scum other than HPE who I don't think is Kira.

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I did not have a good lunch: word of advice, don't make nachos using stale chips. My stomach is not alright. :(

Hu Tao and Dan as well are my 'game is easy' PoE. HPE seems more likely to be a follower than Kira yeah, but I'm not ruling it out as a "hide in plain sight" attempt.

Do you think Rat is lying here when they act like flipping Gimli after Klick is fine with them?
Well, I actually think Rat kinda HAS to lie here about that if Gimli is indeed Kira, so as not to look obvious as a follower. I will note though that I'm having some doubts on Rat's being scum because they did feel somewhat convinced of the push on Klick (though I'm aware tht there are players out there who are quite good as scum and can fake this kind of conviction). I will also note that I don't have a ton of conviction in Gimli being Kira, I am just not really sure who else to vote.

I mean, look at this:
In post 375, Enchant wrote: HighPrincessErinys (2): ActionDan, Gimli
Hu Tao (1): Aureal
Aureal (1): Hu Tao
Klick (1): Radical Rat
Gimli (1): CUDDLE TIME
This VC kinda sucks tbh. I would really like to build a wagon on someone so we can start to see how people react to real pressure. In fact I'd probably be down to wagon almost anyone except Klick or Willow right now (oh hi Willow! Good that you managed to get in the game!), so that I could gather hopefully alignment-indicative reactions to those wagons.



Also, small correction of what Adorable said: I don't TR Klick due to meta. I TR him due to his play this game. I just feel confident about my ability to find him as town since I've done it before. But it isn't a "meta-read" as much as a "meta-adjusted read".

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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:16 am

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I should note that the above two posts were written 24 hours apart which is part of why they might look somewhat out of synch.

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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:45 am

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@Mod, I'll be on V/LA until Sunday.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:25 am

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This game has so much information packed into 17 pages it's making my head spin. Sorry, I don't have time to detangle it right now.

However, it wouldn't hurt to give an ordered list based on feels.

From town to scum: Cuddle, Klick, Erinys, Gimli, Aureal, Tao, Dan, Rat, Drew.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:26 am

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In post 414, CUDDLE TIME wrote: (oh hi Willow! Good that you managed to get in the game!)
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 2:59 am

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Welcome Willow!

I look forward to seeing that reads list rearranged once you've read properly
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:49 am

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I will get in a lengthy reread tonight
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:50 am

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Welcome Willow :]

I've been putting this game on the back burner so I don't really have any new thoughts. I need to do more than just skim at some point

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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:01 am

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Drew out of ten Doctors agree: You should vote Klick
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:12 am

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this one will Try and get itself a little more up to speed later today
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:51 am

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In post 414, CUDDLE TIME wrote:
In post 377, Aureal wrote: Do you think Rat is lying here when they act like flipping Gimli after Klick is fine with them?
Well, I actually think Rat kinda HAS to lie here about that if Gimli is indeed Kira, so as not to look obvious as a follower. I will note though that I'm having some doubts on Rat's being scum because they did feel somewhat convinced of the push on Klick (though I'm aware tht there are players out there who are quite good as scum and can fake this kind of conviction). I will also note that I don't have a ton of conviction in Gimli being Kira, I am just not really sure who else to vote.

I mean, look at this:
In post 375, Enchant wrote: HighPrincessErinys (2): ActionDan, Gimli
Hu Tao (1): Aureal
Aureal (1): Hu Tao
Klick (1): Radical Rat
Gimli (1): CUDDLE TIME
This VC kinda sucks tbh. I would really like to build a wagon on someone so we can start to see how people react to real pressure. In fact I'd probably be down to wagon almost anyone except Klick or Willow right now (oh hi Willow! Good that you managed to get in the game!), so that I could gather hopefully alignment-indicative reactions to those wagons.
It feels like you're really reaching for something here, and I don't like it.

If you want a wagon so much, why aren't you building one? You're vanity wagoning someone whom you admit you don't actually have much of a scumread on while there are other options you're open to who actually have votes.
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