“ Roles may be hybrid. In Complex Games, some players should be Vanilla Townies - although there is not a hard floor here - and there is no limit on roles and modifiers.”
Jesus
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 1451, JacksonVirgo wrote:
“ Roles may be hybrid. In Complex Games, some players should be Vanilla Townies - although there is not a hard floor here - and there is no limit on roles and modifiers.”
Complex Games may only use the roles and modifiers listed above.
Roles may be hybrid. In Complex Games, some players should be Vanilla Townies - although there is not a hard floor here - and there is no limit on roles and modifiers.
Serial Killers are not allowed in Micro games. They are allowed in Mini games but must be announced during signups. They are allowed in Larges and do not require an announcement. Multiball - when there are two or more Mafia factions - is allowed in Large games only, and requires an announcement.
Flavor should not impact gameplay.
Experimental roles are allowed in Complex Games - the Experimental Role List has no substantial effect on gameplay but indicates roles that are currently being "trialed" for Normal Games. The Experimental Role List should be expected to change.
Roles may not be hybrid. In Simple Games, most players should be Vanilla Townies - although there is not a hard floor here - and non-Vanilla roles must have one role and a maximum of one modifier.
By that logic even simple normals can have 0 VTs, I think Complex Normals still need at least one VT to be legal?
Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more
This might be a slightly long post, but I hope to prove to any doubters out there that I am town, and a cop of some variety.
I am aware I had the most posts on Day 1, also that Day 1 was cut drastically short, which sucks. However, I encourage anyone who managed to knowingly crumb on Day 1 to step forward now. Scum will know which of us are cops, so you can only be helping us out as town. It's possible scum crumbed, let's imagine for a sec they have 3 godfathers or 2GF1goon. I still don't think it's at all clear that next to all of us are cops. They might suspect 2 cops, but all cops is quite a leap from that. Alternatively they might suspect something like 1 cop 1 backup, but these are not necessarily worlds where they would think to crumb cop, I think. So share your crumbs asap (:
like i have a very, very old instinct to policy lim claimed millers that i'm trying to get past
sure I mean it won’t affect me really, I was just trying to work out if it was worth going into the claim or not. still new to the meta and all thattt. Good luck to any investigative role diagnosing that cesspit lol
I again maybe somewhat naively try to distance myself from being a cop.
In post 110, ketchup777 wrote:
Alianna feeling mean hehe, would be funny if there's no cops
it's supposed to be a troll game so I expected either like 7 millers or just be uncc as a names townie
can you unacronymicize uncc please? (:
true
I claim not miller. investigate me if you want to find a town!
The exclamation mark maybe was subconsciously trying to hint at making an ironic statement. I thought it was ironic to tell people to investigate me because I thought I was the only cop. However, I also remembered telling people to investigate me in my last game when I was a VT, so thought I could go down this line fairly safely. I will explain some fake VT crumbs I left in here later on in this post. Gypyx had made me laugh about my crumbing VT last time and I was determined to do it again hehehe (:
Spoiler: 4:my main cop crumb(full posts snipped, you can go read but it's Jackson and I's massive colourful argument)
Because I'm talking about YOUR reads dude, I don't care who came up with them. You're utilising them to the highest degree
Yes, you're talking about my reads. You're tunneling. I have nothing to hide though so it'll be like policemen banging down my door without a search warrant and then saying that they found a chocolate wrapper under the sofa that means I've committed 7 felonies, 4 heists and 6 kidnappings.
Ok, so at some point I decided I should slip some kind of crumb in so my cop results (if I managed to stay alive) would have some credibility. I wasn't sure how I was going to do it yet, I didn't want to do a first letters potentially riskily obvious kind of thing, so was just waiting till the time was right. I felt that slipping a crumb into a massive post should be the safest possible place (because some people, especially mafia probably, will be lazy and only skim it), and when the imagery of a police search came into my head I realised it was meant to be. Here, the word 'policemen' was a hint I am cop. Also, abstract, but the numbers I chose for the felonies, heists and kidnappings (7,4,6) referred to the first 3 players I planned to investigate if possible based on who I wanted to investigate at that time, based on the playerlist in post #0:
1. ketchup777
2. JacksonVirgo
3. Black
4. Titus
(SECOND INVESTIGATION)
5. light_ganski
6. Ranger
(THIRD INVESTIGATION)
7. Enchant Arko*
(FIRST INVESTIGATION)
8. usesPython
9. Laplacian
10. Hu Tao
11. DkKoba
12. Political Clout
13. Doctor Drew
While I was undecided whether I was going to reveal my results after 2 or 3 night investigations, I planned to stick to this order if I could (obvs if one died I would have to adapt, but I would have explained that in my reveal post). Now after this premature reveal and the 1millioncops surprise I am obviously open to investigating whoever, but yeah. Why this order? I did not want to risk investigating Koba or Jackson with claimed millers (up to you to decide whether my role would allow me to get a result, but I figured these players would get sorted out one way or another), and wanted to investigate slots I felt uncertain about. Enchant nee. Arko took priority, as the only information we have is that Arko was so depressed at seeing their role that they flaked. Titus came next, as Titus was not posting very much and it was hard to find much substantial to analyse there (IRL reasons, sure). Ranger came last, because I was somewhat confident in my initial read of her but I thought others might share my read and vote her out, or I could be wrong. I also thought Ranger was unlikely to die as she looked a bit suspicious so a town!ranger would be kept alive at night for a while, probably. Same for Enchant and Titus, I thought others (including me) were just more likely to die tbh. I endeavoured to stick to this order last night, even if Enchant were a Miller that'd be ok, so I did. I have an inno on enchant.
Do you think the best strategy as scum is to lurk and post less?
Best? No. Most commonly used? Probably. Humans gravitate towards laziness
Here demonstrates why I have posted so much. I saw more than one thread recently where people were suggesting town PRs would lie low early on, and I was determined to not get caught out for that by the mafia at night, especially since in my last game as a VT I posted a lot and would probably be expected to do so again. This includes my last game (Mini Normal 2325) where DeltaWave was shot night 1, an otherwise crazy kill, for being a suspected low-posting Power Role.
wait, i can’t look too innocent, i might get nightkilled ):
Basically this was a fairly honest thought. By self-voting I was trying to do something weird-looking and divert attention from the fact that nobody was voting me anymore. If I had managed to convince all my early doubters that I was town, it wasn't looking so good for me at night. Now I will show the 3 Vanilla Townie crumbs I left, in the hopes scum would catch one and leave me alone at night:
In post 156, Black wrote:
Can you try to explain the townie vibes you're getting?
sure give me a few mins, it’s strawberry milkshake time
Very tasty
V T
Spoiler: 10-final one!
In post 556, ketchup777 wrote:
sorry i find colours easy so will go back to colours here
excessively focusing on one person without good reason. you can raise your points, but i don't think it's possible to confidently read anyone yet so early on and with all 13 of us still alive. I learnt my lesson from last time when luca finally convinced me he was 100% confident on bugs only to have the
VT flip*.
sorry if you feel that way, I don't really have much more to say though yet
pocketing me would be questionable after we had very different views in MeLo last time. Shooting me could work, but idk. Probably not worth hyperfixating on why you've decided to heavily go after me. I hope you'll see the light soon
ok
*(although it was also kind of on me for not having enough patience)
pedit: hell yeahhh
I got the idea of placing an asterisk next to a crumb from Jackson last game, hence it was only apt that I leave an asterisk crumb for him in answer to one of his long posts. I tried to make the asterisk link up to something to not make it too obvious.
In post 1410, Titus wrote:
Calling light and Black partners. There is a reason to vote light (counterwagon from yesterday) but I wanted to hear someone say it to compare if they usually do that. Black jumping off at the first motion elsewhere is suspicious rather than giving a reason. She wants to be on the light wagon if it takes but would rather vote town.
In post 1410, Titus wrote:
Calling light and Black partners. There is a reason to vote light (counterwagon from yesterday) but I wanted to hear someone say it to compare if they usually do that. Black jumping off at the first motion elsewhere is suspicious rather than giving a reason. She wants to be on the light wagon if it takes but would rather vote town.
VOTE: Light
This feels overly defensive and a little panicky
I must be high as fuck I thought you were calling yourself defensive and panicky
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 1410, Titus wrote:
Calling light and Black partners. There is a reason to vote light (counterwagon from yesterday) but I wanted to hear someone say it to compare if they usually do that. Black jumping off at the first motion elsewhere is suspicious rather than giving a reason. She wants to be on the light wagon if it takes but would rather vote town.
VOTE: Light
This feels overly defensive and a little panicky
I must be high as fuck I thought you were calling yourself defensive and panicky
Ok, so explain why it's mod-confirmed we have a VT?
Cuz dragon modslipped
I don't think you can definitely conclude that. However, I would be amazed if scum don't have any godfathers. Is there some kind of redirecting role they could all have, where they redirect night actions at them onto a townie so it'll always be an inno?
1. A VT isn’t confirmed as per complex normal ruling
2. Dragon said that normals would have at least one VT, as a mod he’d know the setup. He wouldn’t say that if there were none
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 1466, JacksonVirgo wrote:
1. A VT isn’t confirmed as per complex normal ruling
2. Dragon said that normals would have at least one VT, as a mod he’d know the setup. He wouldn’t say that if there were none
For 1 the same wording is used on both Simple, Regular, and Complex Normal page. One VT is still mandatory
Plural | Nameless (They/He) and Alice (She/Her) and C (They/Them) and more
In post 1466, JacksonVirgo wrote:
1. A VT isn’t confirmed as per complex normal ruling
2. Dragon said that normals would have at least one VT, as a mod he’d know the setup. He wouldn’t say that if there were none
1. I'm not 100% convinced on the intricacies of the wording of the rules, but ok
2. Dragon should also know that the setup violates a rule. He said paraphrasing 'Normal Games must have at least one VT'. He still left it ambiguous as to whether
In post 1466, JacksonVirgo wrote:
1. A VT isn’t confirmed as per complex normal ruling
2. Dragon said that normals would have at least one VT, as a mod he’d know the setup. He wouldn’t say that if there were none
For 1 the same wording is used on both Simple, Regular, and Complex Normal page. One VT is still mandatory
obviously you and Jackson being so confident either way is confusing me
