Open 905: Pick Your Power X/Y S/S [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 2.01

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-03-16 17:15:00).

yeet

gob [3]:

Firebringer, davesaz, Pavowski

Pavowski [2]:

Dannflor, yessiree

not voting [7]:

gob, Jake The Wolfie, PenguinPower, May, Oblivion, Brian Skies, the worst

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[PenguinPower]

have fun, I am going to be in san francisco most of next week

ty - hope you have a good trip as well

You can visit with all the penguins at the Georgia Aquarium, they're adorable and they have PUFFINS now too.

fun story - i used to work with the penguins at the chattanooga aquarium and spent time at the georgia aquarium as well...a long time ago.

[Pavowski]

have fun, I am going to be in san francisco most of next week

ty - hope you have a good trip as well

You can visit with all the penguins at the Georgia Aquarium, they're adorable and they have PUFFINS now too.

fun story - i used to work with the penguins at the chattanooga aquarium and spent time at the georgia aquarium as well...a long time ago.

Neat! I live near ATL and love the GA aquarium but I prefer the Chattanooga aquarium. Chatt is a neat little city too. Atlanta stresses me out

[PenguinPower]

Atlanta stresses me out

Me to. But, I'm in Nashville and it's the closest place to go for good Japanese food.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Hye Firebringer, do you still think Ducklan is the root of all evil?

[the worst]

vig??????

am I the only one who thinks me negligently allowing gob to lolhammer was really towny

VOTE: Pavowski

[Firebringer]

Hye Firebringer, do you still think Ducklan is the root of all evil?

he is definitely the worst.

I don't really think the duck is that scummy right now

[the worst]

SUCCESS

[the worst]

I do feel like we're wagoning more than 0 scum rn

I have no strong feelings on whether they're t/s or s/s

[the worst]

to lift the curtain a bit when I read Dave's 1090 a little voice in the back of my mind was like "I wonder if we eliminated NAS and NAS flipped red if we'd have one of those games where we hit d1 then lose in 5p"

I do think NAS is pretty scummy even in the context of lhf. I might call u boring if u vote there but I won't fight you on it, I don't think NAS is a bad lim honestly and if day was ending in 14 seconds I'd probably be advocating that we flashyeet NAS!

this is a messy game to sort satisfactorily tho and given thw impeccable standards of NAS' posts so far, I fear he may have peaked and that wagoning him further would be fruitless.



less poetically: he's refusing to play or interact. I doubt wagoning him will fix that. why bother when we can do things that'll actually be interesting?

I also feel obligated to quote this and say I hope I'm not an oracle.

[PenguinPower]

vig??????

am I the only one who thinks me negligently allowing gob to lolhammer was really towny

VOTE: Pavowski

by that logic, you and me are both really towny

[the worst]

vig??????

am I the only one who thinks me negligently allowing gob to lolhammer was really towny

VOTE: Pavowski

by that logic, you and me are both really towny

there's some fringe logic that as mafia you could've tried to bait gob into the lazy hammer so he looked sketchier today but eeehhhh thats a stretch

honestly already found you plenty towny

[PenguinPower]

i'm a master manipulator, ducky. didn't you know?

[the worst]

i'm a master manipulator, ducky. didn't you know?

I watched mawaru penguindrum when it came out I'll never fully trust a penguin again in my entire life

[Jake The Wolfie]

I do feel like we're wagoning more than 0 scum rn

I have no strong feelings on whether they're t/s or s/s :o :o :o

Do you have any strong feelings about which one is scummier than the other?

[the worst]

I do feel like we're wagoning more than 0 scum rn

I have no strong feelings on whether they're t/s or s/s

Do you have any strong feelings about which one is scummier than the other?

Separating my head & my heart for a sec:

My soul screams at me to flip Pav. I do not think his d1 was towny, and I think he responded poorly to pressure. I believe keeping him in contention is going to improve the quality of the gamestate.

My head sees what people are seeing re. gob but doesn't necessarily think it's alignment indicative, or all that aligned with NAS. I also think gob is just gonna keep doing gob things whether he's run up or not, and we're probably better running him up when he's in contention for a lim. I don't think he's not in contention for a lim rn, honestly, so I don't dislike that wagon. It's just not all that interesting fmpov.

If I had a gun with one bullet maybe I'd shoot yessiree just to see what happened

[the worst]

ohhhhhhhhhh

rolecop is a really interesting pick since scum took informed

unsure if it's strictly optimal but Ydrasse's creativity is not to be underestimated

[PenguinPower]

i'm a master manipulator, ducky. didn't you know?

I watched mawaru penguindrum when it came out I'll never fully trust a penguin again in my entire life

Mmm…fair.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: gob

[the worst]

I'm rly conflicted on yessiree and I'd love for someone townier and smarter than me to point me in the direction I need

I do not enjoy how he had NAS in his second-tier scumlist, but then was absolutely unable to elaborate on the read & seemed glacial about budging on reads which were in the scummier tier than NAS

he's voting someone who isn't even on his list of 5 scum suspects in a game with 3 scum oh maybe I hate that.......

i wanted to let the wagons between brian and me play out a bit more, cause i was already getting some reads out of it

but i didn't have anything better to post at the time, so i went ahead and posted that

i don't actually think i believe in the relative strength of those reads all that much

june & dunn were both low-content and unreadable at that point.
i was a pretty popular scumread so am not surprised about being in that tier, nor is it noteworthy that you had me there.

pavowski & notascum are both genuinely intriguing but you don't feel interested in pressing there.

you had your vote on brian skies who you townread - and now you've unvoted despite wagons picking up and you having several scum/non-town reads?
where are you at? i don't even need you to catch up i just can't work out what's going on

thats ok my day 1 reads are not that accurate anyway, but i thought it would still be good to put them out there

as to why i townread brian, i can dig the thought process of him scumreading me based on how i joined his wagon, and linking pav and me as some sort of distancing play. It's basically how i would approach early game, only reason i called it a shitpush is cause the conclusion he drew about me is wrong

June and pav was two-fold, one was mostly vibe, the other is mechanical that i will not out yet, the only reason i suspected them is cause only they happened to fall in this overlap

dunn i already gave reasonings for
noteascum had a stellar entrance but ruined it by asking people to summarize the game

I've had several recent town losses where scum was eliminated d1 and it didn't help in the slightest.

This is a vibe I'm starting to get from the concept of yeeting NotAScum

HUH?

i think NotAScum is pretty yeetable and probably actually scum but it doesn't feel like a smart wagon rn

yea i had to do a double take on this because reading it made me raise an eyebrow first and then reading the explanation gave me whiplash

if u think the former, you wouldn't have an issue with people pushing that slot
if u think the latter, you wouldn't have held that predisposition in the first place

i dont mean this as a "gotcha" like i caught soemone doing a contradiction, i genuinely can't imagine how u can come to these conflicting opinions about a particular slot

am i being too harsh on ducky? or i just dont like the way he waddles right now

VOTE: notascum

But then votes yessiree which really just felt more like a compromise given yessiree has no actual ostensible read on NAS

It still doesn't know what to think of Yessirree if it's being honest. It feels totally confused by how they approach the game.

It give me the vibe it views things in black and white, and I'm in the grey zone. So that's fine.

It is capable of nuance, but it does tend to... how does it explain.

It builds mental models to understand others because it does not easily or naturally comprehend them without that framing? It finds them useful for predicting behaviour and analyzing intent. It thinks itself pretty good at those things, once it has that lock on.

It is having a harder time locking on to you than others, and it attributes that to not having had as much direct connection. Would you be willing to rectify this with it sometime soon?

Sure, it has my attention

Can you explain to it your read on... any three slots you feel strongly on, give it a breakdown as if you were attempting to teach it how to come to the same conclusion as you.

I don't have any strong feelings on a particular slot. My holistic take is that there are probably 2 scums in this group. I'm not sure how I can break it down for you in detail other than to say that's the lens I'm using to view the game as a whole.

davesaz 6
Ydrasse 10
Pavowski 11
gob 55

and 1 scum in this group

NotAScum 2
the worst 3
Brian Skies 3

The people not on this list are my townreads and I'm largely tuning their interactions out as noise to reduce my cognitive load.

But for some reason this post tings a little towny but I think it's just individualistic and interesting. I don't actually get it.

[the worst]

Actually ig yessiree has me & brian as clear in his vibe solve now that's kinda fun

[Firebringer]

I don't feel like theres any point in making this game day very long tbh

[yessiree]

Actually ig yessiree has me & brian as clear in his vibe solve now that's kinda fun

nope, that read is void now since that whole read list was hinging on scum picking rolecop

[yessiree]

VOTE: gob

[Firebringer]

i mean i don't want to get into the trap of just speedlimming to losing the game, but I want more flips for more information and I feel like this game day might drag on to make apathy which is much worse for us. I think we elim gob here see if im on the right path, if not then we give vig a shot or more night info or something.

I am not really interested in doing a lot of more hunting or talking and debating this game day like the did day 1