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Hu Tao she/herJack of All Tradesshe/her
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My gut on Dave is sussy. But I'm unsure on that one too-
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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come murder willow with me Hu TaoShowWhite Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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PenguinPower He/Him.pengHe/Him
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murder willow sounds like a very awesome tree that i would like to plant in my backyard.<(") | (")>-
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Little Will o' Wisp He/HimGoonHe/Him
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UNVOTE: Snow
A few takeaways from the flashwagon:
- There's approximately a 0% chance the wagon is scum free.
- Thomit is just town. This is my "page 2 townread" of the game.
- "Wagon bad, WTF everyone!" is such an easy and predictable response that I believe that at least one off-wagon scum made it. (One of Naerys, Kay, Oblivion)
- I believe Dave when he says he didn't read page 2 before voting. That doesn't mean he's town, it only means a page 2 execution wasn't his objective.
I think the usefulness of the flashwagon is entirely aboutIn post 48, Oblivion wrote:
What material? A Poisoned Well Opening to the game? Town or Scum, what player reacts within normal ranges to almost dying before ever hitting the thread? Do you think yourself so enlightened in the ways of player mentality that you will be able to discern town confusion and outrage from the scum variant? It doesn't think anyone can, reliably, and rather thinks that most natural responses from a player in that slot will be traditionally seen as scummy.In post 45, davesaz wrote: note to self: read the 2nd page first
I don't think it's a bad thing to hit an E-1 like that, it will certainly provide good material.
It dislikes the very idea. There's no foundation to base the reaction off of, so there's no baseline to test against.everyone else'sreaction to the wagon, not Snow's own reaction.
I wasn't scared. I never believed the wagon would actually lead to an execution.In post 86, Gypyx wrote:
I think the human psyche is hard to understeand, and a sample size of one seems prone for mistakes and suchIn post 75, Oblivion wrote:
It isn't meta, but rather a mental model. It attempts to make models of player behaviour by playing with and understanding how they will react situationally. It seeks to understand, then apply these lessons by asking itself to think within that mental model, and whether the response makes sense or if there is an outside influence that is affecting that response, then seeking motivation from being in that Model.In post 67, Gypyx wrote: obliving sure says a lot of words but i'm not sure if it makes it town yet
i'm kinda curious about how Penguin following usual penguin meta makes him more likely town when like, sheeping on a page 1 wagon is not the hardest thing in the world
Having played precisely one game with Penguin, as it being scum, it got to see much of how Penguin approaches a game. It thinks that the teasing, off the cuff but effective manner in which Penguin approached his vote fits within its model of him and so it sees him most strongly as town from that.
Here is a question in return for you. If indeed the creation and reaction to these wagons are indicative of finding scum and town and sorting alignments, why is its method less effective than yours? What methods are you using, and from these interactions who is town or scum to you?
specifically, i'm looking for reactions that are hard to fake / scum failing to fail a reaction, willow in my opinions fits into this category as he made a sheep onto the wagon while also showing uneasiness around it, a pretty contradictory mindset, and one telling he's afraid of acting "wrong" (this is based on the shrug emoji for instance)
Same, actually.In post 102, PenguinPower wrote: murder willow sounds like a very awesome tree that i would like to plant in my backyard.You can call me "Willow".-
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Little Will o' Wisp He/HimGoonHe/Him
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That be fair actually, after the last game I played with Tao. -_-In post 101, Gypyx wrote: come murder willow with me Hu TaoYou can call me "Willow".-
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Little Will o' Wisp He/HimGoonHe/Him
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I'm reading this paragraph over and over. I don't get it. How is what I did "failing to fail" a reaction?In post 86, Gypyx wrote: specifically, i'm looking for reactions that are hard to fake / scum failing to fail a reaction, willow in my opinions fits into this category as he made a sheep onto the wagon while also showing uneasiness around it, a pretty contradictory mindset, and one telling he's afraid of acting "wrong" (this is based on the shrug emoji for instance)
And what do you mean "for instance"? The shrug emoticon is the only thing I besides voting.You can call me "Willow".-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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I dont like the way you are mocking our response to the speedwagon.In post 103, Little Will o' Wisp wrote: "Wagon bad, WTF everyone!" is such an easy and predictable response that I believe that at least one off-wagon scum made it. (One of Naerys, Kay, Oblivion)-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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Why?
thomith could be a court jester
I have a Large Normal currently Ongoing.
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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Hu Tao and Wisp town. Dave and Naerys sus.
Dave sus bc whiteknight. Naerys likely fake suspicion.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
GTKTitus Part 2
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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VOTE: DaveShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
GTKTitus Part 2
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All hail the Scum Empress!-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Why not?
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Snow2697 heGoonhe
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VOTE: Dave-
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Snow2697 heGoonhe
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Dave claims that he did not read page 2 before he put me on E-1.
If true, he jumped on a train without understanding implications and potential lime. Hardly townish.
If not true, he is scum.
Dave is at least sus for me.-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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why do u think my suspiction is fake?In post 109, Titus wrote: Hu Tao and Wisp town. Dave and Naerys sus.
Dave sus bc whiteknight. Naerys likely fake suspicion.-
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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thomith could be a court jester
I have a Large Normal currently Ongoing.
I have a Micro Normal currently Ongoing.-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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I think speed wagons in general are Scummy, are taken advantage if by Scum, and can be devastating if successful Day 1.
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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Naerys, are you Scum this game?
I'll notice if you start buckling under the pressure again.-
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Naerys sheMafia Scumshe
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no, i am town-
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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~•~I townread Alianna.
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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~•~I townread Alianna.
Post #1000s Collected: 26
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Alianna She/HerDeath by 1000 PagetopsShe/Her
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~•~I townread Alianna.
Post #1000s Collected: 26
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