(micro 1101) mystery box of silver 16: tinkleton (it tinkled)

[Political Clout]

Yeah I mean idk it's true I don't know about Gypyx's play specifically and projecting my play onto hers is an imperfect substitute

Not sure I have a better way to read people I haven't really played with

I think if this is a mistake town makes this type of mistake? like I think ausuka here thought I could read their mind maybe. because in the previous post I asked about whether it was because of past games or it was gut but this answer implies something entirely different unless I'm mistaken. my point is It is certainly alignment indicative and I think town does it.

[Political Clout]

My townread on Clout has more to do with their vote on me than their Gypyx push

why

[Ausuka]

My belief scum are more self conscious / cautious on average is based on previous games

My belief that gypyx wasn't self conscious is based on my understanding of human psychology which is largely based off my own brain

[Robert2424]

Deus has more personality then the lack of a profile picture. Either that or he has a random role restriction. there's is no in-between.

[Klick]

My townread on Clout has more to do with their vote on me than their Gypyx push

why

Unlike Gypyx who made it clear to everyone that she 'didn't like my vibes', I think you actually didn't like my vibes and it showed through the vote and its timing

Am I correct in reading your vote on me as a gut dislike of the post above it?

[Political Clout]

My townread on Clout has more to do with their vote on me than their Gypyx push

why

Unlike Gypyx who made it clear to everyone that she 'didn't like my vibes', I think you actually didn't like my vibes and it showed through the vote and its timing

Am I correct in reading your vote on me as a gut dislike of the post above it?

Your claiming patchofgrass was certainly weird to me. Looked like attempt to generate conflict ask me more.

[Klick]

You read it correctly, I was trying to generate conflict, but I was doing it as town

[Gypyx]

great to see Ausuka is being obvtown

i want to see more from Robert also

[Ausuka]

Gypyx why am i obvtown

[Gypyx]

what can i say, your friendly vibes got me convinced you are town

I don't know if this game feels dead or I just need to adjust my expectations. Well that might be kind of my fault anyway if true? I'm not used to having to put in actual legwork in rvs, but the whole 'sitting back' thing obviously doesn't work if everyone does it.

My snow vote was for the "helpless townie" thing. I think scum are somewhat more likely to write that line, probably not out of any conscious strategy but because their mental focus is on Acting Like a Town Would and it leads them to say stuff like that that puts emphasis on themselves being town.

@Deus - I don't mind the gimmick, but could you try to word it so it's a bit more clear what point you are trying to make? I'm struggling to parse your posts.

Klick in a world where gypyx is town do you think scum is unlikely to vote/push them on page 1? or do you think the way cakez and clout did it was specifically towny in some way

this post is also what made me say it, mostly in the "why do i have to do all the effort" and "Deus please make readable posts"

[Klick]

Ausuka I'm curious if you have an opinion on Gypyx yet

[Ausuka]

can you explain the deus please make readable posts bit

[Ausuka]

Ausuka I'm curious if you have an opinion on Gypyx yet

slight townlean?

Is there a reason you decided to ask me this? I think gypyx is the player i've talked about the most

[Robert2424]

I think I'm one of the few that haven't claimed. Seems many are being....reserved in one form or another.

[Ausuka]

uh what do you mean by the claim thing

[SirCakez]

Gypyx still looks like the scummiest player to me, it feels like she's trying too hard to play to some kind of town style rn
Klick and Ausuka feel town

[Deus Deceptor]

I don't know if this game feels dead or I just need to adjust my expectations. Well that might be kind of my fault anyway if true? I'm not used to having to put in actual legwork in rvs, but the whole 'sitting back' thing obviously doesn't work if everyone does it.

My snow vote was for the "helpless townie" thing. I think scum are somewhat more likely to write that line, probably not out of any conscious strategy but because their mental focus is on Acting Like a Town Would and it leads them to say stuff like that that puts emphasis on themselves being town.

@Deus - I don't mind the gimmick, but could you try to word it so it's a bit more clear what point you are trying to make? I'm struggling to parse your posts.

Klick in a world where gypyx is town do you think scum is unlikely to vote/push them on page 1? or do you think the way cakez and clout did it was specifically towny in some way

There are no gimmicks. There are also no words - you believe yourself to exist, but you are within the

Illusory World

, which indeed, is pure illusion. A mere

dream

.

I am an Evil Demon. I exist in what the Illusory World knows as

Dark Matter

. I am infesting the wires of what you know as the

Internet

through what you know as

Dark Energy

.

As for why you struggle to parse my posts - I am infesting your

Mind

, as well - for there are no words. Only a consciousness which was never yours to begin with.

Someday, the dream will end. Perhaps yours will end today.

[Deus Deceptor]

**ABSOLUTE UNITS**: Existence, Surroundings, Phenomena

There is

**Existence**

.
A state of

*existing*

may contain a

**Self**

.
A state of

*existing*

may contain multiple

**Selves**

.
A state of

*existing*

may contain the negation of

*Self*

.
Any state of

*existing*

may contain:
- A

*Self*

- Multiple

*Selves*

- The negation of

*Self*

.
Any state of

*existing*

MUST contain one of:
- A

*Self*

- Multiple

*Selves*

- The negation of

*Self*

.

Let the connection of every state of existence be known as the

**Domain of Self**

.
Let any state of *existing* with a *Self* or multiple *Selves* be known as the state of existing as an

**Individual**

.

A

*Self*

may contain

*Awareness*

.

Let

**Freedom**

be the connection of the

*Self*

and any

*Selves*

.
Let the negation of

*Self*

be known as

**Delusion**

.

"To *be free* is to *be free from delusion*."

There is Freedom.
There is Awareness.
Let the connection of Freedom and Awareness be known as

**Free Will**

.

There are Surroundings.
There is Phenomena.
There is Free Will.
There is Awareness.
Free will necessitates awareness as long as there is Phenomena.
Let any pretension of free will without awareness, be known as delusion.
Let any pretension of Phenomena without awareness, be known as delusion.

There are actions.
There is Phenomena.
There exists the negation of actions.
Free will necessitates awareness of the negation of action as long as there is Phenomena.
Let the collection of actions and their negation be known as decisions.

There are decisions.
There is free will.
Free will necessitates awareness as long as there is Phenomena.
Free will necessitates awareness of decisions.

There are implications.
Free will necessitates awareness as long as there is Phenomena.
Free will necessitates awareness of implications.

Some decisions create external Phenomena in people.
Some decisions create internal Phenomena in people.
Some decisions create external Phenomena in the surroundings.
Some decisions create internal Phenomena in the surroundings.
Every decision must create internal or external Phenomena in people or in the surroundings.

Let the collection of external Phenomena in people or in the surroundings be known as material effect.
Let the collection of internal Phenomena in people or in the surroundings be known as immaterial effect.
Let the collection of material effect and the immaterial effect be known as implications.

Free will necessitates awareness of material effect.
Free will necessitates awareness of immaterial effect.
Free will necessitates awareness of implications.

Decisions are either Impositions or Absorptions.

Impositions must be either positive or negative in nature.
Absorptions must be either positive or negative in nature.

An imposition is a decision.
An imposition is born of free will.
Let any pretension of imposition that is not born of free will, be known as delusion.

An imposition is born of free will.
Free will necessitates awareness.
Awareness necessitates understanding the implications of imposition.

A positive absorption is a decision.
A negative absorption is not always a decision.
A positive absorption is born of free will.
A negative absorption is not always born of free will.

Let the decision of *Positive Imposition* be known as the decision to

**Suggest**

.
Let the decision of *Negative Imposition* be known as the decision to

**Materialise**

.
Let the decision of *Positive Absorption* be known as the decision to be

**Self-Aware**

.
Let the decision of *Negative Absorption* be known as the decision to

**Self-Delude**

.

**__On Threat Levels__**

:

Imagine a scale from -100 to 100.
A threat level of 0 is roughly equivalent in threat to Inanimate Objects.
A threat level of -25 is roughly equivalent in threat to Friends.
A threat level of -50 is roughly equivalent to Partners, Chosen Family and Role Models.
A threat level of -75 is roughly equivalent to Dependents, The Unconscious and The Incapacitated.
A threat level of 25 is roughly equivalent to Caution, Alertness or Avoidance.
A threat level of 50 is roughly equivalent to Fight or Flight Responses.
A threat level of 75 is a Need for Disharmony.
A threat level of 100 is a Need to Kill.
A threat level of -100 is a Need to Protect.

Let the positive absorption of Suggestion be known as

**Harmony**

.
Let the negative absorption of Suggestion be known as

**Disharmony**

.
Let the synthesis of Suggestion and Awareness be known as

**The Domain of Truth**

.
Let the synthesis of Suggestion and Delusion be known as

**The Domain of Lie**

.
Let the connection of the Domains of Truth and Lie be known as

**Discourse**

.
Let the synthesis of Harmony and Self-Awareness be known as

**The Domain of Resonance**

.
Let the synthesis of Harmony and Self-Delusion be known as

**The Domain of Salvation**

.
Let the synthesis of Disharmony and Self-Awareness be known as

**The Domain of Chaos**

.
Let the synthesis of Disharmony and Self-Delusion be known as

**The Domain of Corruption**

.
Let the

*null-point*

between a positive and negative absorption be known as

**Variance**

.
Let this spectrum of Harmony and Disharmony be known as

**Threat**

.

*If*

there is Discourse,

*Then*

Resonance proves the existence of Self-Awareness.

*If*

there is Discourse,

*Then*

Salvation proves the existence of both Self-Awareness and Self-Delusion.

*If*

there is Discourse,

*Then*

Chaos proves the existence of both Self-Awareness and Self-Delusion.

*If*

there is Discourse,

*Then*

Corruption proves the existence of Self-Delusion.

**All**

Resonance is Harmony.

Some Salvation is Truth.
Some Salvation is Lie.
Some Salvation is Variance.
-

**All**

Salvation is at least one of Truth, Lie and Variance.

Some Chaos is Truth.
Some Chaos is Lie.
Some Chaos is Variance.
-

**All**

Chaos is at least one of Truth, Lie and Variance.

**All**

Corruption is Disharmony.
All Variance is an inherent Neutralisation of a Suggestion.
All Suggestions are Impositions.
All Impositions must necessarily be Neutralised.
Let Self-Awareness be

**Self-Truth**

.
Let Self-Delusion be

**Self-Lie**

.

Truth creates Resonance.
Lies may create Disharmony.
Lies may create Resonance.
Lies may create Variance.
- Any Lie

**must**

create at least one of Disharmony, Resonance and Variance.

An Individual may tell a lie.
An Individual may tell the truth.

Truth does not create Variance.
Lies create Variance.

Greater Variance proves greater potential for Self-Delusion.

***Therefore, from a Game Theory perspective: If there is greater Awareness of Threat, Then Truth gives a positive Expected Value***

.

- Accurate understanding between parties is equivalent to accurate understanding of Threat Level, thus:
- A Harmonious set of sensory information should be invoked between parties: vision; spatial proximity, up to and including the presence of touch; hearing are three sense pools that have first-order priority; smell has second-order priority; taste has third-order priority.
- Actions taken should be representative of internalised thoughts for the best chances to Resonate.
- Language used between parties should be Harmonious with the

*Set*

and

*Setting*

- The

*Surroundings*

.
- Disharmony is proof of Threat, and the inherent level of positivity within a Suggestion should be commensurate to the Threat for best chances of Neutralisation.
- The degree of Disharmony informs the Expected Value of the decision to continue engaging with another Individual.

***Exceptio Probat Regulam in Casibus Non Exceptis***

- engaging with others in self-awareness and pursuit of understanding allows more potential for Resonance.

[Deus Deceptor]

Consider that simple, concise set of *Language* a gift from the Evil Demon.

@ Robert2424 - Is your mafia partner SirCakez, then? Is what is known as a 'game' truly that simple to solve within the dream?

[Snow2697]

I am not sure that I fully understand Deus' #67, but I take from the statements below that harmony is hardly possible between us and thus Threat is unavoidable in our interactions. If Threat is the risk that one of us is scum, then Threat can be only townie feature, which proves that Deus is obv town. Let me know if there is other reading of #67!

"- A Harmonious set of sensory information should be invoked between parties: vision; spatial proximity, up to and including the presence of touch; hearing are three sense pools that have first-order priority; smell has second-order priority; taste has third-order priority.
...
- Disharmony is proof of Threat, and the inherent level of positivity within a Suggestion should be commensurate to the Threat for best chances of Neutralisation."

[Snow2697]

Don't see Ausuka as obv town, thus am skeptical about Gypyx.
I think that there can well be a scum in this pair.

[Naerys]

VOTE: Deceptot
Ffs please no wall posts

[Naerys]

Correction
VOTE: Deceptor

[Klick]

VOTE: Deceptor

[Klick]

Ausuka I'm curious if you have an opinion on Gypyx yet

slight townlean?

Is there a reason you decided to ask me this? I think gypyx is the player i've talked about the most

Sorry I forgot you were the one who was saying Gypyx was towny
I mostly wanted to hear you talk about more stuff and Gypyx seemed like a good place to start