Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Yuuka Kazami]

It's an opportunity/rare outcome/serendipity/use the tools you have been given to make the best of a complex situation kind of thing. I'd think you'd be pretty good at that, though I'm not sure you'd have the courage.
There's a reason I'm saying it's a conspiracy theory rather than a full-throated accusation.

I dunno what you mean about Dai trying to die.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

...Why is Dai on the outside for you?

They just aren’t as strong as my other townreads. I’d at least like to think my townreads are right.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I dunno what you mean about Dai trying to die.

Pretend you're scumyousei for a second. You have a loud commute. Do you keep quiet about it, do you openly claim it's a loud commute, or do you say you have an ability to Dai and that you're gonna spend the rest of the game trying to Dai to bring the game back to odds when that would prevent you from ever rezzing without immediately getting limmed the same day for bringing the game back to odds for no reason

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

That sounds like a completely alien playstyle

Scum are always playing this way to some degree.

[Yuuka Kazami]

*sigh*
Going to to go find the role cards page helpfully constructed by you so I can remember what their ability even does.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

*sigh*
Going to to go find the role cards page helpfully constructed by you so I can remember what their ability even does.

Their active lets them redirect all actions targeting them to who they target that night, and if their target dies they die

Their passive lets them rezz in exchange for giving up an unused spellcard

[Kaguya Houraisan]

and unless you think both Marisa and Dai are scum then their active is confirmed since Marisa targeted Dai with her passive disable n1 which Dai redirected to Kagerou

[Yuuka Kazami]

...Why is Dai on the outside for you?

They just aren’t as strong as my other townreads. I’d at least like to think my townreads are right.

Why are you even wishfully thinking about these things.
We can be wrong, most of the time we are, holding on to that isn't advantageous when each day brings new information about someone's alignment that should conceivably lead to greater accuracy an opportunity to see the game more clearly etc etc.
Albeit you can also be lead astray, this day phase is especially vulnerable to that sort of maneuvering i think.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Do you need me to full claim today?

I’m making dinner atm but after I can work on that.

[Yuuka Kazami]

and unless you think both Marisa and Dai are scum then their active is confirmed since Marisa targeted Dai with her passive disable n1 which Dai redirected to Kagerou

Missed this, thank you for that information.

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 3.04

Kaguya Houraisan [1]:

Marisa Kirisame

Reisen Udongein Inaba [2]:

Koishi Komeiji, Daiyousei

Marisa Kirisame [1]:

Kaguya Houraisan

Kagerou Imaizumi [1]:

Yuuka Kazami

Not Voting:

Aya Shameimaru, Kagerou Imaizumi, Reisen Udongein Inaba

With

8

remaining,

5

votes to eliminate

Deadline:

(expired on 2024-04-06 03:46:21)

[Yuuka Kazami]

Do you need me to full claim today?

I’m making dinner atm but after I can work on that.

Ask koushi/Aya.
They're in charge.
I'd like you to because I suck and cannot figure out who is scum this game with much confidence. Anything that helps me go further in that regard is something that I want. But that's a personal want, not a need.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

...Why is Dai on the outside for you?

They just aren’t as strong as my other townreads. I’d at least like to think my townreads are right.

Why are you even wishfully thinking about these things.
We can be wrong, most of the time we are, holding on to that isn't advantageous when each day brings new information about someone's alignment that should conceivably lead to greater accuracy an opportunity to see the game more clearly etc etc.
Albeit you can also be lead astray, this day phase is especially vulnerable to that sort of maneuvering i think.

Well when I think of what scum needs to do post day 1, and this is going to sound completely biased because it’s the opposite of what I’ve been doing, is pick up the pace.

I don’t doubt that Larva was the designated deep wolf considering their position after day 1 and that suggests the other two were in worse positions. Day 2 scums deep wolf flips and I would imagine the remaining partners need to scramble to improve their position. Do I think that needs to be an immediate push? No but day 2 onward that is moved up on the agenda scum had previously.

You and kaguya fit that bill as slots that have had the perception of them improve gamewide over the last two days. Compared to kagerou or Marisa whose standing has either worsened or remained steady.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Well when I think of what scum needs to do post day 1, and this is going to sound completely biased because it’s the opposite of what I’ve been doing, is pick up the pace.

I don’t doubt that Larva was the designated deep wolf considering their position after day 1 and that suggests the other two were in worse positions. Day 2 scums deep wolf flips and I would imagine the remaining partners need to scramble to improve their position. Do I think that needs to be an immediate push? No but day 2 onward that is moved up on the agenda scum had previously.

You and kaguya fit that bill as slots that have had the perception of them improve gamewide over the last two days. Compared to kagerou or Marisa whose standing has either worsened or remained steady.

I went from mostly townread on the 2nd half of d1 to actively at risk of being limmed d3, don't really get how you have this opinion

[Yuuka Kazami]

Putting it together.
I find it unlikely that Dai is able to redirect but they lied about that they will die if their target dies leading to a set up of fake drowning. When there's a risk that all this information could have been conveyed to another neighborhood.

Dai, did you crumb any parts of your abilities early?

[Yuuka Kazami]

the only people to observe having their reads change is me and Dai, so they are technically correct that you went from rock bottom this day phase to approaching a town read for me and regaining a town read from Dai.

[Yuuka Kazami]

@Reisen, I think it's a WIM thing.
I think Kaguya and I just have high WIM so when we're in trouble (in my case because I am vulnerable and don't have a decent solve heading into probable melo) and them because clown piece died putting them in a very awkward position when Dai came back, they began posting more.

I'm still trying to interpret it.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Reisen - Kaguya and I are not scum partners.
I don't have the patience to go back and forth with my scum partners in a vacuum for hours even at my absolute best.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

I don’t think you’re both scum together.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Err I’m questioning if that’s even a valid way to go about reading you, as a duo not a pair. Because I feel like I’m attributing the scum behavior of one onto whichever is town between you. Since you’re both showing similars signs they’re either not scummy or the town there is playing towards a scum goal.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I don’t think you’re both scum together.

You think the scumteam is in Yuuka/Kaguya/Dai and that Kaguya/Yuuka isn't the team. Why aren't you voting Dai?

Not that I want Dai to be voted here but still

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Then the conversation becomes “what’s your case on dai?”

I don’t have one, I just like them less than the people I think are town (in game).

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Also I don’t wanna freak out but, 3-4 hours aya or koishi have to decide if they need my full claim.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Deadline:

(expired on 2024-04-06 03:46:21)

[Daiyousei]

Daiyousei, what made you unvote Kaguya?

Her response to my return and vote for her read as a reasonable approach to take.

Dai, did you crumb any parts of your abilities early?

I made a post that was intended to be a very subtle crumb at a role that would make me an appealing NK target in the hopes I would draw it and repurpose it as a vig shot. Other than that, no, unless you count me outright stating intent to actively try to get myself killed.

Then the conversation becomes “what’s your case on dai?”

I don’t have one, I just like them less than the people I think are town (in game).

Don't let this stop you! No one asked me what my case on you was when I voted for you.