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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:56 pm

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sorry, I'm just still not convinced!
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:00 pm

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so true bestie
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:12 pm

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made some posts for you drew replying to your request — on the page starting with post 850
there's a summary of the initial long post in the post after it!
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:54 pm

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In post 946, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 937, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 932, the worst wrote:
In post 930, the worst wrote:
In post 924, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 922, the worst wrote:
In post 919, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 909, the worst wrote:
In post 907, HighPrincessErinys wrote: as someone who knows that we lose if its voted out today, we should probably kersplode gypyx
which scum teams do you see as viable?
This is a real bitch of a question to answer because you and gypyx is unlikely, but then that leaves only me and gypyx or gypyx and The Other Consensusly Townread Slots. like. yikes.
just having reads on slots isn't going to help anymore - town need to find pairs of two players who can be scum together to eliminate to win the game.
psyche/drew

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My d1 reads are usually not fantastic but like dang that would make me so sad

Is there anything about Psyche & drew that seems like, aligned or specifically working to get each other to a winning endgame, from your pov?
This isn't scepticism btw I genuinely feel like I need a check on Psyche & drewsuka. there's this like kinda simplistic world where the scumteam is you/gypyx and that's right some of the time but if it's not right this time I kind of need to check myself.

Psyche's d1 is mostly pretty solid but it gets content and I do see a world where scum views that hammer as a considered necessity. I also trust Psyche to know Psyche well enough to know whether the hammer is redeemable or not.

Ausuka's handling of d1 wagons feels really pure - I liked her play around Deus like, a lot. I like the way she approached Cakez and in broad strokes I tended to either agree with or at least vibe with most of her reads. She was also just really low presence by the end of d1 so I probably need to see more from her/drew on d1 to feel like, phenomenally confident.
In all honesty Psyche's reasons for townreading Drewsuka seem overall pretty good but like this one's said before alot of it is perhaps Drew using Ausuka's strong posting as a smokescreen. Like his vibes are good but this one doesn't think his content is as good. Would need to properly check in on that idea, though.
Psyche commented on it, but what are your opinions on my take about the voting pattern I pointed out yesterday? And why it still makes a gyp/PC team possible

Also since I am now Drewsuka, I am trying to find a good name for PC and the worst.

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I got nothing
Worstical Clout is the best I could think of, drewsuka came so naturally
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:55 pm

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In post 947, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 944, the worst wrote:
In post 942, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 938, the worst wrote: Potentially. The other voice in my head is like "what if psyche just townreads ausuka". Do you think psyche's reasoning feels pretty believable and authentic overall?
Yeah.
I generally think it's pretty hard to fake an authentic seeming read on someone you know that you're scum with, so I'd probably in the abstract call that a point against an ausuka/psyche scumteam. Its also a little hard to fake authentic sounding reads as scum but it's obviously a skill that you'd want to develop so I think I'd call it a point against psyche being scum too
I have been at work, but skimmed today's posting and your catchup

Like why is this something you are considering?
I'm talking thru HPE's perspective bc I haven't quite worked out where they're coming from yet
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:55 pm

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where it's coming from yet*

Sorry.
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:08 pm

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In post 525, schadd_ wrote:
vote count 2.4 !


Political Clout (2):
Gypyx, HighPrincessErinys
Psyche (1):
T3

not voting (4):
Snow2697, Psyche, Ausuka, Political Clout


with 7 alive, it takes 4 to scrimble. day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-04-04 16:37:01).


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The PC wagon is a lil surreal I don't vibe with gypyx's read on my slot like, at all, but I think I don't mind HPE's read on my pred. I also wonder how natural it is for scum!HPE ti replace in, see its partner Gypyx slowly wind up to a vote on PC with an awkward explanation, then thoroughly talk through its own read on PC just to justify jumping onto a wagon with only its scumbuddy on it
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:14 pm

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In post 526, Ausuka wrote:
In post 507, Psyche wrote: think scum gypx is capable of seeing the value in pushing a snowtown case at this step in the game though yeah it has town equity
i mean i think most people are capable of doing most things as scum. in this game in particular i think it's difficult to read into things because scum aren't being, like, forced into things. which like i will hold my hand up and say yeah that's partially my fault but it's still true

i think it's like a counterintuitive thing to do as scum so +town
I keep rereading this post like why does it feel like ausuka was forced to paraphrase Psyche's post at gunpoint

I guess it's possible she just had no strong feeling I guess
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:17 pm

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In post 531, Psyche wrote: T3's opposition to the cakez wagon seems robust. Dived into meta, produced reasoning about cakez's claim that seems like it should have been even more compelling in retrospect. If it were just white-knighting, I think the townread would have either been half-hearted or been motivated more by gut / town / leaky reasons. The swap from Gypx to Robert for counterwagon purposes also seems organic. Is unfortunate for me, but think my T3 townread is in "I'm willing to bet the game on this" territory.
+2 posts above I'm just calling it I really don't think you're scum this game.
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:19 pm

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In post 534, Psyche wrote: also think it unlikely that layla would have been killed N1 if her reads were bad
and all of layla's posts put robert and gypx at the bottom of her reads lists, with clout/snow safely perched above three other candidates, and only below obvtown

further think there's a lot of informational value in limming robert's slot if we can neither clear it nor agree on someone else
this post should include a take on HPE's current iso but it doesn't, vry disappointing
I'm not sure it's as easy to sheep dead town in micros tbh but I'll grant this.
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:20 pm

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i found some posts in layla's iso that could have conceivably motivated a pr-fishing-type nk so yeah we have to downweight it
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:23 pm

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In post 540, Psyche wrote: i sort of want to give HPE the game
but i've felt that way about scum before

maybe the most important part of the iso to look at is the basis for the PC read
oh i think i see an error
Can you remember what inspired this?

Ah I wasn't even thinking pr fishing. Layla also felt p wildcardy while reading up.
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:24 pm

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HPE's iso in general has these pbpes that are kind of dazzling though ultimately hard for me to decisively form a read on
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:25 pm

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also im a weeb and it pocketed me a little by appealing to that. devious!
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:27 pm

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I feel like HPE has a lot of surface level takes and can't seem to commit to reads, afaict this is a theme in the pbps and also its solving this phase
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:28 pm

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In post 539, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 533, Psyche wrote: rather good odds of 4 town on robert here
In post 534, Psyche wrote: further think there's a lot of informational value in limming robert's slot if we can neither clear it nor agree on someone else
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very unethical post tbh
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:29 pm

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I still get the lump in my throat a lil if I slow down long enough
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 pm

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In post 562, Psyche wrote: can i get more opinions on T3?
am i right to townlock him despite these recent posts? is the trajectory of his psyche read believable?
it's so stubborn

huh. maybe I actually secretly like the stubbornness of gypyx's posts a little bit.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:36 pm

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In post 598, HighPrincessErinys wrote: snow flipping scum might resolve PC, also. So yeah, let's see this guy flipped today, please.
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:40 pm

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In post 613, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 612, Psyche wrote: i will now go through the trouble of summarizing my towncase for PC in a single, decently formatted post
if my confidence in this towncase can be broken in a way that makes snowscum way less likely, i'll push off
otherwise i'll spend the rest of the day trying to form a town bloc with drew and (???) T3
Honestly, I would be shocked if HPE isn't town
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In post 614, Psyche wrote: can you list out all your "i would be shocked if" takes
You, and maybe Gyp
Wait how x2
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:43 pm

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In post 630, Gypyx wrote: Plurality lim anyways so we aren't actually needing to hammer but like, i urge y'all to look at HPE
I do like snow's vote change to HPE here and I'm not super sure I see the value in Gypyx encouraging folks to join her on HPE.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:43 pm

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In post 633, Gypyx wrote: "-if no majority is reached by the deadline, whoever has the most votes is executed. if there are multiple tied wagons, i will choose randomly between them"
Gypyx is aware of the risk of calling for even one more vote on her buddy
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:48 pm

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Has everyone claimed at this point? Low-key I've finished d2 and I feel caught up
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:49 pm

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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:52 pm

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I do not think psyche is scum.
I don't super love the gypyx/hpe solve. It just feels like they've made some strange decisions if they're scum together
Specifically on d2, HPE talking itself onto a wagon Gypyx was championing, then Gypyx calling for tying votes on HPE at end, feels...actually fuck maybe this bus makes a lot more sense than it felt in the moment. I guess an HPE/Gypyx team is actually p vulnerable and doing some weird shit to distance does make sense.

The point I wanted to make is that i townread ausuka earlier and I don't really feel all that strongly about that read anymore.

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