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[BlackStar]

I think the best way to put it is to try to imagine what type of emotion or mental state town!Black Star would be likely to have in this position

Does the blustery and confident “Haha you’re caught and obvious scum how quaint haha” tone fit with that?

What is the proper way to respond to someone who’ve blocked from carrying out a night kill? And why do you believe that you’re the final authority on how every town player acts?

also I don’t know why you are asking me sorting-esque questions if you have me as caught scum

Like obviously if that’s true I am just lying

It’s not a sorting question. I’m pointing out that your post doesn’t make sense

[Enchant]

I’m not the final authority

I have, however, played a shit ton of games and have a pretty good idea of how scum acts in this situation versus how town acts

Ok.

BlackStar teammate?

[BlackStar]

Black Star what is your rationale for why Hu Tao counter claimed you again

She didn’t counter claim. I claimed roleblocker and she claimed rolestopper. After I made my claim, Penguin’s lack of result on Kay was still unexplained. Hu Tao knew that it would be easy to decrease my credibility by pointing out that I didn’t claim a night action on Penguin.

Mentioning that wasn’t enough to completely turn the town against me so she finally had no choice but to admit that she blocked Penguin and hope that people would believe that he was town aligned over me. She claimed rolestopper instead of roleblocker because it would allow her to claim to have protected you. It was a move that could save the entire scum team

[BlackStar]

Actually she said that she rolestopped Kay. My bad. Still, the same logic applies

[Dannflor]

BlackStar teammate?

oh it's probably you

[KayJayQueue]

BlackStar teammate?

oh it's probably you

Explain this please.

[Dannflor]

random nurse is pretty easy to find as town and this doesn't look like a town ISO from him

you're doing this weird hedgey shadey thing of hu tao while not really committing to either side

brian skies is voting wrong but I don't really think there's a universe where he does the wall posts on leaning Hu Tao and Titus town and then votes Titus, that's just extremely unintuitive positioning for a brian/blackstar team here

KJQ I don't have like a super solid reason to be town beyond vibes

[Dannflor]

that was @Enchant

[Enchant]

Okay, then there's no point talking.

[Hu Tao]

Dannflor replaces Titus !

This is going to lose us the game if Titus is scum because Dann is too good and will inevitably talk me out of voting that way. If Titus is town, we win.

I hate this lol

Best part is I don't have to try to read Dann for once and know he's town

[KayJayQueue]

KJQ I don't have like a super solid reason to be town beyond vibes

I dunno, I think if you looked hard enough you could find some reasons lol

[Hu Tao]

Black Star what is your rationale for why Hu Tao counter claimed you again

She didn’t counter claim. I claimed roleblocker and she claimed rolestopper. After I made my claim, Penguin’s lack of result on Kay was still unexplained. Hu Tao knew that it would be easy to decrease my credibility by pointing out that I didn’t claim a night action on Penguin.

Mentioning that wasn’t enough to completely turn the town against me so she finally had no choice but to admit that she blocked Penguin and hope that people would believe that he was town aligned over me. She claimed rolestopper instead of roleblocker because it would allow her to claim to have protected you. It was a move that could save the entire scum team

the logic here is wrong. Because if I said I roleblocked you it would still lead to the same scenario

[Hu Tao]

BlackStar teammate?

oh it's probably you

He's probably clear btw. Enchant has a vanilla result on him. We have 4 pr. I don't think there is 2 goons

[Hu Tao]

Unless you can think of an ultra strong PR. And even in that case Scum can't multitask. And because of this, Blackstar had to be the one to do the kill because of the claim. So if there was a scum goon it was likely BlackStar not Enchant. I just think mechanically he's town.

[Dannflor]

KJQ I don't have like a super solid reason to be town beyond vibes

I dunno, I think if you looked hard enough you could find some reasons lol

I mean hopefully I haven't read extensively beyond this day yet

[Dannflor]

BlackStar teammate?

oh it's probably you

He's probably clear btw. Enchant has a vanilla result on him. We have 4 pr. I don't think there is 2 goons

oh

[Dannflor]

why can't there be 2 goons + roleblocker

[KayJayQueue]

Unless you can think of an ultra strong PR. And even in that case Scum can't multitask. And because of this, Blackstar had to be the one to do the kill because of the claim. So if there was a scum goon it was likely BlackStar not Enchant. I just think mechanically he's town.

So it’s either Brian or Titus. If you townread me and thought Enchant was town due to vanilla result, and you think you have cleared Titus, wouldn’t you have immediately said the scum team was BlackStar/Brian?

[Hu Tao]

BlackStar teammate?

oh it's probably you

He's probably clear btw. Enchant has a vanilla result on him. We have 4 pr. I don't think there is 2 goons

Btw if me and him were scum I would have talked over all this already. This should make it clear we aren't linked. I do wish I could be scum with Dann one day, but sadly this game is not the game.

[Hu Tao]

why can't there be 2 goons + roleblocker

I don't think that's strong enough. But anyway I just laid out why Blackstar is likely the other goon if there is one because scum can't multitask. Goon would be making the kill

[Dannflor]

reporter - learns if a player has acted or not
town vanilla cop
town universal backup night 1 friendly neighbor
rolestopper

the most powerful role here is the rolestopper and it has the potential for negative utility

i don't really see why there couldn't be 2 goons balance wise

[Hu Tao]

And since we have a Reporter PR, I doubt there would be only 1 mafia pr. Idk.

[Dannflor]

Unless you can think of an ultra strong PR. And even in that case Scum can't multitask. And because of this, Blackstar had to be the one to do the kill because of the claim. So if there was a scum goon it was likely BlackStar not Enchant. I just think mechanically he's town.

why did blackstar have to be the one to do the kill

im sorry if im being dumb but im not following

[Dannflor]

reporter is a seems like an extremely weak role

i'm not following why that means multiple mafia prs either

[Hu Tao]

Well you're probably better understanding balance than me, I'm bad at it but idk I just see 1 goon not 2 here.