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I agree with dial, vi and sheepleI'll tie your legs
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hey shiftyIn post 43, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
How is figuring setup stopping you from rvs votingIn post 31, Aureal wrote: Wow, I was gonna come RVS vote Gimli because I have good information that he's Kira, but apparently I need to figure out setup stuff instead?
let me help there
VOTE: Gimli
as for dreams I think I like the slide one, sheep people one and car one
hello all. been a while
im townreading your entrance, is that too horrible?I'll tie your legs
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ok we're towning
what do you think of DE?I'll tie your legs
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I'm also locktowning DEI'll tie your legs
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are you fearing the townbloc, ydrasse?In post 53, Ydrasse wrote: NO ONE locktown. malice only
or maybe you want to join?I'll tie your legs
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I have no idea what happened in the last fferyllt game, wanna tell?In post 54, DragonEater70 wrote:
<3In post 52, Gimli wrote: I'm also locktowning DE
Let's try not to repeat what happened in the last fferyllt gameI'll tie your legs
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oh, rightIn post 59, DragonEater70 wrote: I mean the one where I hammered you
fun times all the same and I think I outed VT in that game so it was a fine d1 flipI'll tie your legs
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*pretends to understand*
oh okay
wait, do we need to get MAJ + 2 to eliminate?I'll tie your legs
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okay so we know what not to pickI'll tie your legs
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I don't think 11-12 has anything to do with reviving a player
it has to do with increasing the power of something, which is why its turning a dial, its a movement to accelerate, to increase, or whateverI'll tie your legs
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I thought you'd have reads and not just dream speculation even in your first point, and I find your subsequent reliance on it to be rather like a convenient way to appear towny
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I think we should probably claim our dream choices out loud, in case that can be valuable information later on, you know, to spot liarsI'll tie your legs
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I expect black as a townie to speculate not only on mech but also on peopleIn post 109, Silver Ravens wrote:
Why do you think they would have reads? Show your thought process.
having black's entrance being solely agreeable mech talk (and I agree with maria on the futility of these conversations in a broad sense even tho I will partake them), did not feel like a towny entrance, hence my vote.I'll tie your legs
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I'm fine with black's latter posting and I think rejoining the game to post some more after saying you're gonna leave points to town
I can see why I'm ticking so hard as town to DE as I'm doing something very different this game - its not on purpose, of course, it's just a mood. I don't know if it's terribly alignment indicative - I can see why maria wants to kill me for 'trying to flow and failing', to take an opposite stance - but his read is right and I think he genuinely believes it so this is all fine.
I like prism's mech talk, and I understand what alisae is talking about - I think they're both making sense. I'll take the nice looking dreams over the known bad thing myself though.I'll tie your legs
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you think there's a decent likelihood the interaction between me and DE is SvS? does scum locktown their buddies early like this?In post 165, Von Payne wrote:
I think the read on you is pretty bad. He didn't even really seem interested when I pointed out that there are other games where you!scum fake solve and push earlyIn post 160, Gimli wrote: I can see why I'm ticking so hard as town to DE as I'm doing something very different this game - its not on purpose, of course, it's just a mood. I don't know if it's terribly alignment indicative
I think town probably reevaluates the read after that. Scum that is trying to pocket a townie or scum that doesn't want to budge on a buddy yet probably holds firm here
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also, why do you expect DE to reevaluate? he played with me plenty, I think more than your experience playing with me. I think its reasonable to stick with his read and agree to disagree with your read.I'll tie your legs
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are you suggesting that my expectation that you provide reads was me meta'ing you?In post 170, Von Payne wrote:In post 166, Sunflower wrote: let's all just agree that everyone is playing very different than usual this game and we can ignore meta completely
I get meta'd in every game I play in and it's already happened this game so while I appreciate your movement and would love to join, I lack faith that we can change the worldIn post 168, Sunflower wrote: unshackle yourselves from the burden of past expectations and past lives. forget everything you knew. release the weight from your shoulders. join me and together we can experience mafia in its purest form. no past. no future. only dreams.
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I didn't want to go over my early posts at you further since you started to engage, but I disliked your entrance not just for being much dream speculation but for being too agreeable on top of it. its not meta the same way you're discussing my meta with DE. my read wasn't robotic the way you took for anyway.I'll tie your legs
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I think he believes it genuinely and isn't faking it. I don't think I have a strict meta other than posting saturday night and not concentrating on watching a dude reacting to another dude reviewing chicken wings on a restaurant (I'm vegetarian and don't know why I like it)
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@SR: not a meta read specific for black, no. I expect it from black cause I expect it from most reasonable players I know to scumhunt or at least take a stance that's not agreeing with random guesses on unknown dreams, hence the vote. you had asked me to show my thought process, and it involves me knowing black from playing with her in the past. I never said meta. I never talked about previous games. having to talk and talk about this so much makes what was a completely reasonable early push to be dried down to logical processes that don't amount to much.I'll tie your legs
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no, you're turning it into a meta read. either this, or every read is a meta read, as long as it relates even minimally to the player posting.In post 196, Von Payne wrote: Like Gimli I don't think you understand that this is still a meta read. You judged my behavior based on your image of me from previous games we've played together. You're not taking into account setup, IRL stuff, and all the other things that could affect my posting
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what I saw was you in page 4 of a game with a lot of alignment indicative content, focusing on what I feel is the most uninteresting/unsolvable aspects of the thread. you said it was because you wouldn't have time and becausethis is what these 24 hours are for. Fine with the first part, of course, but this isn't a 'non-scumhunting' phase.I'll tie your legs
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Ive said enough on the subject and had responded to your post already.In post 202, Silver Ravens wrote:
What do you think of 189? I also think you are using meta.In post 199, Gimli wrote:
no, you're turning it into a meta read. either this, or every read is a meta read, as long as it relates even minimally to the player posting.In post 196, Von Payne wrote: Like Gimli I don't think you understand that this is still a meta read. You judged my behavior based on your image of me from previous games we've played together. You're not taking into account setup, IRL stuff, and all the other things that could affect my posting
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what I saw was you in page 4 of a game with a lot of alignment indicative content, focusing on what I feel is the most uninteresting/unsolvable aspects of the thread. you said it was because you wouldn't have time and becausethis is what these 24 hours are for. Fine with the first part, of course, but this isn't a 'non-scumhunting' phase.I'll tie your legs
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DE is bleeding town tho?In post 329, Klick wrote:
Yeah it didn't seem very well-disguised which is why I'm going for the upfront backup planIn post 327, DragonEater70 wrote: I knew you were scumreading meI'll tie your legs
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ActionDan - IDK, null?
Gimli - just listen to dragoneater
Von Payne (Black/Doctor Drew hydra) - my initial impression on black's posting isn't good. I can see how DE can look over the top fake or whatever, but I was expecting her to see past the early eager leans as not a scummy thing. I don't like her insistence on saying DE should drop the townread on me given *evidence*, and that *failure* to do so makes him scum pocketing me or, whats even more egregious, SvS.
DragonEater70 - town
Kyoko Kirigiri - still town to me
Klick - never saw klick scumming but he says he hates it. underwhelming so far might fit that bill.
Hu Tao - hu taoing.
Prism - prisming.
Aureal - I can see the scumreads, but idk. playing a little different but not trying to appear towny like death note, could be town and still getting into the game.
Catgirl Chipotle (Alisae/MariaR hydra) - I think they are town.
Silver Ravens (GuyInFreezer/Dunnstral hydra) - I don't know. I think some of dunn's exaggeration might be scum indicative.
Sunflower (fireisredsir/JupiterXV hydra) - I don't know but fireisred seems like typical fireisred to me?
Ydrasse - ydrassing.I'll tie your legs
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he said I was being disingenuous aboutIn post 342, DragonEater70 wrote: Gimli, explain Dunn read?what is metaand that it was evidence of me being scum
I felt that even if my statements about it were contradictory (not trying to get into it again as I agree with fireisred its a pointless convo to have) they couldn't possibly be alignment indicative (from my standpoint anyway), and that dunn trying to push an apparent contradiction as a scummy thing was an artifice and not a real thought.
I felt similar about black's push on you: she notices you're townreading me when I wrote absolutely nothing worth anything, but overplays it as if she never saw an early soulread before and declares it scummy.I'll tie your legs
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after much thinking it through, I have klick as probtown and aureal as maybescum
I don't know if klick goes on to scumread DE in this point in the game, who I think is particularly difficult to miselim and does not look scummy or pushable to scum. looks like a town perspective. maybe I should be using this to also townread black but her logic didn't go down well with me.
aureal doesn't feel comfortable making her reads. I think its possible that playing as a follower in the death note game gave her liberty to be more brazen and energetic as scum. this so far is not looking like her town game, which iirc is a very towny one.I'll tie your legs
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lets talk about premature reads for a secondIn post 368, Von Payne wrote:
What do you not like about my logic?In post 351, Gimli wrote: maybe I should be using this to also townread black but her logic didn't go down well with me
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I got an early gut townlock read by DE. everyone else disagreed with it, fine. now the first question is, how likely is the overtly premature overtly confident read something that comes from scum? isn't the brazen overflowing confidence a towny thing? isn't it towny specifically for DE?
on the other hand, let's take your interpretation of it, to highlight the kind of premature read that I think is scummy. you said he was more likely scum pocketing me or SvS. I mentioned before how much I disliked it. to interpret that as pocketing - on page 4 of pre day 1 of a 10 day gameday - is premature. also, how likely is it that townreading me like that is gonna get heat from elsewhere, even if it pockets me? why is this a scum strategy to you?I'll tie your legs
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In post 391, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote: I have a horrible headache this evening, so you probably wont see much me today. but I will do my best to catch up tomorrowI'll tie your legs
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I did vi, sheeple and 11-12I'll tie your legs
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so people are literally choosing slide for a botched mechanical reason?I'll tie your legs
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rule 8 of the setup: unchosen dream that aren't discarded or revealed may appear again.In post 401, Gimli wrote: so people are literally choosing slide for a botched mechanical reason?
that implies a revealed dream DOES NOT appear again, we dont need to 'play it out early' for whatever reason
klick and alisae and maria are all wrong
or am I wrong? IDK, you tell me. but from everything I read this makes no sense.I'll tie your legs
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have you read setup with attention?In post 402, Sunflower wrote: i don't know if we're choosing slide or not but i think that if it is chosen that it really isn't that bad
explain to me where I'm wrong.I'll tie your legs
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I think bolded is wrongIn post 126, Klick wrote:Every single negative consequence of this dream can be negated by us just all agreeing that it should be negated and playing accordingly. (Assuming we all agree that the impact of these is negative)
We agree that we're ending the day by the usual deadline. We also agree that when someone reaches majority, we collapse onto them regardless of our reads.
Ithink this dream is neutral in earlier days, and negative-utility as we approach ELo. Which probably makes it a good early choice
who started reading the setup like this? was it alisae?I'll tie your legs
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we can just discard slide and it will not appear again
STOP VOTING FOR SLIDE WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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this is wrong and this is scum motivated imo
im looking at maria and klickI'll tie your legs
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unchosen revealed dream is discarded if not pickedIn post 112, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: dream quality is irrelevant here.
promoting revealed dream is always correct here.
Revealed Dream
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Wolves discard revealed dream? Great, we don't have to deal w/ it. TBH I think we will have to deal w/ that dream eventually? Plurality isn't even that bad, we all should be competent enough to prevent a tie and if a tie does happen then that's informative as well.
Wolves discard unrevealed Dream? That's also fine. Dreamer has 2 revealed dreams to work w/.
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I aint townreading anyone whose first message in the game is leading us to where scum would preferIn post 414, DragonEater70 wrote:In post 408, Gimli wrote: this is wrong and this is scum motivated imo
im looking at maria and klick
Weren't you JUST tring Klick...In post 409, Gimli wrote:and black
Like yeah slide sucks but the good news is, WE DON'T HAVE TO PICK IT. Because the dreamer gets to choose between the three dreams. Or I guess two because scum can discard one.
But anyway, here's a PSA to everyone:
IF YOU DON'T WANT SLIDE TO HAPPEN ON LATER DAYS, JUST DON'T VOTE FOR IT AND IT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE GAME.
I'll townread klick when he is towny. meanwhile I'm suspecting everyone who stood behind voting for slideI'll tie your legs
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DE is locktown and haters are gonna deal with itI'll tie your legs
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well, I finally read the setupIn post 426, DragonEater70 wrote:
Curious what prompted this btwIn post 417, Gimli wrote: DE is locktown and haters are gonna deal with itI'll tie your legs
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are you reading my posts? I'm calling the slide thing scum motivated. I want everyone on the slide bandwagon flipped. this is how bad I think this is.I'll tie your legs
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if you were scum, why would be the one caring about slide? to look towny?In post 429, DragonEater70 wrote: I am reading your posts. I dislike Slide. I just wrote an anti-Slide wallpost.
Are you towning me for being a Slide hater? Because if that's the case that wasn't very clear.
don't worry about how I'm reading you. you were right on page 4, stick with it.I'll tie your legs
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its fine its just the most negative utility you could possibly go with your vote
maybe now other people won't do thatI'll tie your legs
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thank you ydra you just slided to my towncoreIn post 441, Ydrasse wrote: despite my burning desire for the slide i did not vote for the slide. you can thank me.I'll tie your legs
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you, klick and then also blackIn post 445, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: I'm also the only person that's blatantly advocating pro-slide so like where is this idea that a pro-slide movement is being suggested by wolves even coming from
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I quoted your post advocating for it
I quoted klick's post advocating for it
the very page I'm doing these things has black saying she voted for slide because dr drew agrees with klickI'll tie your legs
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klick was so neutral about it that dr drew submitted slide because he agreed with klickIn post 453, Catgirl Chipotle wrote:
KLICK JUST EXPLAINED HOW TO PLAY WITH THE OPTION!In post 452, Gimli wrote:
you, klick and then also blackIn post 445, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: I'm also the only person that's blatantly advocating pro-slide so like where is this idea that a pro-slide movement is being suggested by wolves even coming from
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That doesn't particularly mean he's for against it, it just means that it's a neutral dream.
You said it's a BAD dream. Neutral is not bad.I'll tie your legs
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I don't think anyone else would agree with what you're saying if they knew we can just not play the goddamn slide and it will go awayIn post 456, Catgirl Chipotle wrote: Black apparently picked slide because she was not aware that if it was just not picked we wouldn't see it again. That's different. Klick I think is also under that impression as well.
I've read and I still stand by that even if Slide were to be discarded if not picked, that I want to proceed by using the neutral dream to scout an unknown one safely. To me, starting neutral is just as fine as getting a positive dream. I am okay with neutral dreams, I am also okay with good ones. I don't want bad ones.
and I don't think you understood it either at first and this is mental gymnastics. either this, or you're lying, because when you first advocated for slide you also said something about having to deal with it later.I'll tie your legs
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can we just agree to vote on other things?In post 510, Klick wrote: This is a fun take
How much influence do you think I estimated 126 to have?I'll tie your legs
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okayIn post 517, DragonEater70 wrote: Okay Gimli can ypu please go back to townreading Klick now that we know he's not voting Slide?
is the verdict on aureal that she is scum?I'll tie your legs
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this page is definitely interestingI'll tie your legs
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haha its fine dw about itIn post 548, DragonEater70 wrote:
Honestly it's probably the most embarrassing moment in my history on this site.In post 538, Gimli wrote: this page is definitely interesting
I am deeply sorry for my behavior here. PLEASE forget about it.
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I'll make this my one organized post with reads from last game phase. I suggest we make a combined effort to not waste a single post more than we should for thoughts, as other people will surely do that and make d1 even more asfixiating than it already is. while this will feel very 'correspondence mafia', it's not unplayable and I'm sure most people can do that. there are 13 of us and only 100 posts, so that means each player has 7 posts to make on average. if you're going over that, you're removing the chance that someone else can speak up, so try not to if you care, I guess.
I took the time to re-read parts of the game thread while the game was locked, and am gonna do my best to provide content on each player later, but its really late so I'm just gonna post a few thoughts that I had.
Silver Ravens: I like the early mechanical talk cause dunn (I think?) took his time to read the setup before providing advice. in real time I didn't like dunn's push on me, but both heads of the hydra seem to have towny energy. I like GIF's #422 pushing hutao, and also #352 has a light aureal push that I agree with, re: long posts with not a lot of meaningful content in them. I also think that between hutao and aureal there's probably, hopefully, at least one scum, since a bunch of other slots feel towny and they don't. as we can't interact in real time in a super meaningful way anymore, Silver Ravens is definitely safe for d1 as far as I'm concerned. Happy to put it on a townpile.
AD: I don't think we had anything from AD that's particularly telling of his alignment, other than I felt his #200 catch up is overtly critical of content people are posting in a way that I'm not convinced is leading AD to discern alignments, so I get the impression he could be potentially faking the scumhunt instead of genuinely doing so. it has become my go to safe flipping place for this gameday as he is more or less indiscernable/nullscum, but I might change my mind as thoughts progresses.
ali+mariar: I think they're town, I expect maria to scumread me when she is town and I think I expect alisae to be stubborn about mechanics.
aureal: aureal is just very, very different in this game. almost unrecognizably so. she said she changed her style somewhat and isn't doing the things she was doing to avoid getting into tvt battles, and I get that. but she isn't really flowing at all and I felt her interaction with DE was somewhat exaggerated on her end, like she was trying to make him feel guilty for the scumread.
hu tao: just as GIF described, seems to be taking a LAMIST 'I don't know anything' style to the gamethread that feels artificial and might point to scum acting up on being clueless for easy townleans. we just finished a game where hu tao was the d1 miselim and I understand the player's style makes her wagonable, but I also have the feeling that hu tao was kinda towny in death note, which had equally complicated mechanics.
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Writing another big text and hoping to find my footing in this game.
I think I should have a strong townread on Prism. I consider how early and often Prism was right on mechanics and their eagerness to parse out alignments as indicative of just a townie player trying to win. I agree with actiondan: it's a townie doing everything a townie should do, unlike us mortals. I do understand their scumread on DE because DE probably does look scummy in this game from an outside perspective, and so I'm fine with #84 being a town early read on the game.
I think #49 is something DE can only write if he is a townie. he noticed I was openly assessing kirigiri and already working with her in real time to get a better grasp of the game. he knows when I'm towning. everyone who found it weird skimmed a real time interaction that was meaningful and probably correct t^t^t between me, kirigiri and DE (yes I'm voting her, I'll change that in a bit - kirigiri come play), botched what the meaning of it was and then showed up complaining that 'nothing happened how can these townleans exist'. but they are clearly there, and for me they're a very important piece of how I'm gonna find where the scum are.
ydra is towny energy af, everyone noticed it so its probably true
kirigiri is almost definitely a townie, flowing very naturally like normal kyoko. every single post I read of her was gut town to me.
I am concerned about the awkwardness coming from aureal. 'something towny' was kind of a defensive joke response to DE's demand, as in if aureal is scum then 'say something towny' puts her on a highlight very early. I don't think town!aureal would be concerned about it, but if aureal is scum, then 'something towny' happened because the question threw aureal out of character.or something idk im no psychologist. but Silver Ravens first instinct here is just right in #38. I do think that points to aureal scum, considering how she played the entire moon phase.
I still very much dislike Von Payne's entrance and I'm surprised black started the game like this, but I guess I'll keep reading. in #96 she is talking about thinking it was a 11p, maybe I shouldn't read into it cause faking not knowing anything about the setup is a tired scum move. Don't care much about her replies to me either. This is the slot I need to parse out the most.
I don't think maria wastes her time talking down an early townread like #102. that's a scummy filler post and I think she is scum for it. #112 was bad mech directions that fits well with the rest of her bad and scummy entrance posts. I'll add that maria is hanging onto that one scumread on me from page 3 and has added nothing of value to the game. that's not her towngame, she is scum, let's flip it.
sunflower is a townie, right? I think so. I really liked fireisred's posting today, especially his scumread on me. it makes perfect sense to think I'm scum cause I'm 'talking to a crowd'. that's just how I play mafia, and what he identifies as my scum tells are me replicating my town self as scum. since he played with scum!me a whole lot, he can't find me when I'm town easily. it's definitely comprehensible, + the hydra dissonance between their evaluations of me make is almost certainly a genuine interaction between hydra townies.
townies:
kirigiri
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Prism
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jupiter+fire
ydrasse
probtown?
klick
2 scum in
AD
hu tao
Von Payne
aureal
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