Micro Normal 1104 - Postgame

[JacksonVirgo]

Are we voting cute aussies now? Sounds good to me

[KayJayQueue]

Are we voting cute aussies now? Sounds good to me

I am, I don’t know about the others

[humaneatingmonkey]

I read and there's really nothing that happened that I want to respond to. I sympathize with KayJay saying she can't get reads out of anything that's happening, this is a hard game to form strong opinions in.

HEM did ask me why I still like my vote for him, which I agree is a weird question because, like, I like it for the same reasons I did when I made it.

Oh damn.

Hey GIF isn't probably showing up until deadline, Firebringer. Do you want to keep your vote there?

This is kind of a funny question since your vote is also there.

This is only funny if you haven't been reading the thread. I'm voting with Firebringer, and I've made my reasons clear on why.

weird question but ok

Umlaut sent out a lot of questions for me and the reasons for his vote, which I answered, so I'm curious how he progressed from there and why he still likes his vote. I don't think it should be weird for me to know why.

Respond to this so you're not so weirded out.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Umlaut made a big show about trying to convince/unconvince himself voting for me, but I now doubt its sincerity. His reasons for voting for me is that 1.) I joked too many times in my entrance. 2.) asking people about their naked votes. 3.) I'm forcing a push on Luka - and I've answered all of them. Are these really reasons to think I'm scum? Where's the attempt at evaluating my alignment? If he's still saying that it's the same reasons then the effort was just all for show and to possibly remove scum-cred for my eventual town flip.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Umlaut I get that this is probably going to get me eliminated but it's less than 24 hours but I can see where this is going and I'm super annoyed at the current gamestate. I'm vanilla town. This slot is the scummiest among my votes. I want all of you to focus all your attention to sorting this fella and possibly investigating them if any of you are PR.

[Umlaut]

for HEM to really think it is meaningfully >rand scum.

I don't think the naked vote leans scum inherently, I just wanted to force them to verbalize why they naked voted so they can be readable.

But you also said

Please do
engage me because I have a bad habit of tunnelling and I don't want to accidentally lead everyone else toward your elimination with my overflowing charisma.

which sounds a lot like you are leaning scum on Eiralox because of the naked vote. Why would you worry about tunneling on and leading everyone else toward the elimination of someone you aren't scumreading?

HEM, is this a reaction test or what?

Eiralox was trying to be sassy, so I went sassy. When they started to stonewall me, I brought it back to a level but they kept stonewalling me.

This was... not really something I was scumreading you for anyway, just a side observation I made in the post, so I don't know what to do with the answer. Sure, I guess.

Why didn't you get on my case the same way for naked-voting you? What's the difference?

Part of the day. The naked votes on me came as I replaced in, and with no context, and in a part of the day where there isn't much activity from the game. Meanwhile I had more context for yours, and I asked for your reason anyway, and we're in a much deeper part of the game

Again: sure, I guess.

a surefire definite slip

Okay fine, I'm not sure they're surefire definite slip. I feel like they could be slips and I feel strongly about them, and I voted and faked confidence to see their reaction. When their reaction was taunt and make fun of my mafia skills, I knew it was going to be a fruitless route so I dropped it immediately.

It's not that this is a bad answer per se, it's just that it's pretty much the answer you have to give if you aren't going to say, "Whoops, guess I'm scum." You have to retract at least one of the two contradictory stances you took and the easiest way is to say you were projecting confidence to get a reaction. It doesn't really acquit you.

[Hu Tao]

Hmmm. I guess I don't see the scum motivation there. But not sure if that was the intent.

[Hu Tao]

Makes me wanna unvote though

[humaneatingmonkey]

which sounds a lot like you are leaning scum on Eiralox because of the naked vote. Why would you worry about tunneling on and leading everyone else toward the elimination of someone you aren't scumreading?

It's a pressure technique. It didn't work anyway.

Your standard has just become "this guy is scum" to "that doesn't prove your innocence". Just anything to keep your vote on me, I guess. Whatever.

[Hu Tao]

Maybe I just go to my original read idk

VOTE: Eira

[humaneatingmonkey]

Maybe I just go to my original read idk

VOTE: Eira

Just go for Umlaut right now. If he's town, what has he really done? He spent the last few days tunnelling me on basically what amounts to null reads? Where are his other reads? Oh yeah, a Kay scumread because she's hypersensitive or something? Yeah, he doesn't look good.

[Firebringer]

Let’s do something fun

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

alright
VOTE: Jacksonvirgo

[Firebringer]

Are we voting cute aussies now? Sounds good to me

Sure why not

[Firebringer]

Maybe I just go to my original read idk

VOTE: Eira

Do u townread jackson

[Firebringer]

I read them, and I am not convinced.

That post was the post I was refering to which felt pockety for the record, they before that point voiced nothing along the lines of cat being "obvious town", just that the slot was remotely towny but they suddenly changed their mind to obvious town once the slot was being voted.

I just don't see how Overcat or even GIF was the being targeted for pocket in that way with just being called obvtown

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Jackson

I'm fine with this too

[KayJayQueue]

Wait I can’t handle being the one responsible for his elimination, I don’t think I really want him dead. Yet.

Hmm. I want to vote GIF, Eira or

VOTE: Umlaut

[Hu Tao]

I'll check in a bit later but we need to make a decision before deadline

[Firebringer]

I am not going to sit here to defend null reads but like....it seems like u just want to random shoot Kay.
I got a scumlean on Jackson, totally fine with killing. If im wrong im wrong, i can accept being wrong.

if i had a stronger conviction right now i would be coordinating everyone to sheep me but players should be voting their scumread. If ur going to compromise, compromise on someones scumread that u think is either townie (as in sheep ur townreads) Or vote ur scumreads.

[Firebringer]

1.13

Votecount 1.13

humaneatingmonkey (E-2): Eiralox, Umlaut, Hu Tao
GuyInFreezer (2):

Firebringer

, humaneatingmonkey
Eiralox (1): JacksonVirgo
Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (2): GuyInFreezer, KayJayQueue

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-23 12:49:04).

I don't want to see any vanity wagons here at this point from anyone.
If ur going to vote someone who has 0 votes on them at this point, you need a scum case. Can be simple explanation of a post or something. But we aren't just random voting a person we aren't townreading who has 0 votes. If ur going to vote someone ur not townreading it should be as the compromise wagons.

[Firebringer]

At this point i am here to be cheerleader for people to either make a scum case or sheep someone who is pushing a scumread. Anything else is now BANNED

[Firebringer]

Also Erialox is right this is too serious for me. THis game is boring when everyone knows im town.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Luka's probably gonna do JV, and if it goes to E-1, I'm fine to hammer it. But I do actually think Umlaut will flip scum here.

I wanna talk to the Umlaut townreaders. What's so town about Umlaut? If it's effort, then may I remind you that Umlaut hasn't really done anything other than tunnel my slot without developing it despite the read being down to "I can't prove you're town" - which is basically null. And that's after going after my slot (including CJ) for the entire day. The other push is Kay for being hypersensitive, which he has backed away from. Where's his curiosity for the other slots? Even Hu Tao did more gamesolving than this guy.

[Firebringer]

Im not townreading umlaut, I just don't find anything he posted sus. I guess ill reread his iso a 3rd time because it felt pretty standard for him when i read it

[humaneatingmonkey]

This is exactly the happy contented guy that we should be looking at in a game where I feel it has been a struggle to grasp a read on everyone else.