Mr. Flay wrote:I'm not throwing rocks, I genuinely want to know if people believe in the setups they nominate. I've commented on a few genuinely bad setups, but I don't read this thread very often, because most Open Games don't appeal to me. When I
do
come here, I see a lot of 5-9 player games with lots of killing roles, Lovers, and other ways to increase the body count/speed. New C9 is the standout exception.
Maybe I'm selectively reading. Maybe I'm missing something. That's why I asked. But it doesn't seem like a coincidence to me that of the first page of Little Italy, completed Mini Normals have an average length of 749 posts, while Open Games have an average length of less than 479 posts.
small short and violent, like the Dethy and Texas justice setups that have a long history of being run?
I very genuinely believe in the setups I nominate, and work on with other people in this thread,
I value setups that will yield games that can be completed in less than 3 months. My first setup accepted was Big Love, which ended up being like 8 months and 100+ pages with the average player getting replaced over 2 times (all numbers are approximate and from memory) -- that was not an optimal result.
Who is the audience of Open Games? What are they looking for in games?
I generally try to submit games that are quick and interesting for the people that play them. Quick games have far less player attrition. Look through the Open Queue sign-up thread and see how quickly the small and violent games fill up. From what I can tell, players don't mind a swingy game if the time commitment to the game is reasonably short. I know players like short & violent games.
Are there setups you would play in that aren't being run?
I guess I don't understand why you are criticizing setups in a format you do not appreciate. I don't like poetry, but I don't spend much time telling poets that I don't like their work because it is short and written in verse.
Again, I definitely welcome your constructive criticism of specific setups, it does take work to place a good finish on a raw idea. If we tried to limit people's contributions in this thread to perfect setups that are fully formed and finished, then I think that one of the primary benefits of this thread would be lost. This thread serves a valuable role as an open laboratory for the development and balancing of setups.