Mafia #100 - Game Over

[Konowa]

That fact that you do not see it just incriminates you tubby.

[tubby216]

That fact that you do not see it just incriminates you tubby.

what frickin wordl do you line in? Is Willie Wonka's chocolate FActory there?? If so i want two everlasting gobstoppers and an oopa loompa (those guys are cool)


you said nothing!! at all,


Dear Konowa,

Stop taking LSD and smoking massive ammounts of pot prior to posting in mafia#100

signed,

Everyone

X:

This is asking for modkill. Anything close and it will come.

[Konowa]

Oh, I was not referring to anything I said in that last post. I was referring to the fact that you do not see it in BC's posts.

[tubby216]

Oh, I was not referring to anything I said in that last post. I was referring to the fact that you do not see it in BC's posts.

what i see in BC posts is scum, and wha i see in your posts is scum partner trying to back his buddy

[Konowa]

Point proven.

[tubby216]

magic, I think you are town and so I am going to be patient and say this one last time. My reasoning is quite clear if you read all five, not three, posts of mine on page seven. I am

not

going to explain it any further than that. I am not going to give town knowledge to scum.

this is what i am saying you said next to nothing in all five of your posts

[tubby216]

Btw, I'm VT,

I guess I am considered a threat to the town. Damn role Pm's.

if you mean that little bolded nugget everyone and the cousin on this site knows that the town wins when all threats to it have been eliminated, not too hard to fake there. in my eyes it is scum trying to hard and you are trying to hard to back him


now why is death note so scummy??

and for that matter why am i?

[tubby216]

To Konowa,

I appologize if my post 201 was a little to harsh i was trying to be funny but some may see it as a personal attack it was not meant in that way.

[Konowa]

Granted everyone knows that town wins when all threats to it have been eliminated. There are, however, different variations on it. The way I read it seems awfully close to the line I have. The fact that people read it and it does not phase them sets off bells and whistles for me.

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201 did not phase me at all. Thank you for the apology though.

[tubby216]

ok cool

now i will wait for others to weigh in with their thoughts

[X]

Vote Count

BloodCovenent

: (9) dramonic, Kise, DeathNote, Volume, TylerJ, Benmage, Black Jinx, tubby216, qwints

DeathNote

: (2) orangepenguin, Konowa

Benmage

: (1) ConfidAnon

Konowa

: (1) magichands

randomlunatic

: (1) Pomegranate

tubby216

: (1) BloodCovenent

Volume

: (1) Ditto

Not Voting

: (4) Gegenstand, hewitt, randomlunatic, Snow White

Vote Threshold

: 11

Happiness with Posting Level

:

HAPPY

Please cease and desist from talking about Role PMs. All were written in a similar style as written here. As such, scum can see "You are a threat to the town," and extrapolate that the Town Win Condition is to remove threats to the town (approximately). So there is nothing to be discussed. Again, please stop.

[hewitt]

Wow, two votes already. I seem to have a talent at this . Okay. I FOS'ed. Didn't vote, just FOS'ed. Second, it is a weak FoS. An FoS that is entirely based off of BC's actions. I would never vote for someone solely based off of someone elses actions. Third, I ran across that post after I had done my evaluation on Kise, meaning that my initial thoughts were

slightly

altered. Fourth, sometimes half of me says one thing, while the other says another- it creates a mess. Fifth, contradictions in perspective doesn't always constitute guilt or scumminess.

That was the biggest mess of text I've ever seen, I don't think I can get anything concrete out of this at all?

It wasn't a claim. It was just a hypothetical situation. Seriously. Scum points for not reading the thread.

That did not read like a hypothetical situation at all, it looked a lot more like an insinuation.

i still like majichands but do not let the newbie card fool you

Yeah just because he's new doesn't mean he hasn't come across appeal to emotion yet. At least now he knows that if he does it again I'm going to attack him for it and he won't have an excuse next time.

No not at all! The only reason why I put it there, was to show that Mafia are

NOT

the only people that

could

know if

one specific player

was scum.

How, in it's syntax does it imply that I am scum?

Situation 1- If BloodCovenent is Mafia then that was a great catch on the slip.
Situation 2- If BloodCovenent is a power role then he needs to shut the f up before he attacks a scum nightkill.
Situation 3- If BloodCovenet is a vanilla townie...then I guess what he's saying is technically correct but he's playing a dangerous little weird game.

The only reason why I even brought up those scenarios, was because everyone seems certain that I know that kise is town,

which I do not.

If you misinterpreted something, then why am I to blame for it. I bet scum are loving this right now.

You're to blame because you said it! Don't insinuate that you know players are town if you're town. Simple as that, I don't think a town player would make that mistake.

do not like this post, i believe its an appeal,, see bolded part, bad form really bad form.

vote: bloodcovenant

BC is at L-2

Agreed and I don't like it. Not one little bit.

BC has stumbled all over the place regarding his "slip." I don't think the first statement was scummy, but he has basically collapsed after pressure was applied. Why say "I didn't say I knew I was town, but even if I did that doesn't mean I'm scum." if the first clause was enough to defend himself? He's simply dug himself into a deeper and deeper hole.

vote: Blood Covenant

That's L-1, time for a claim.

Okay I don't like what BloodCovenent's been saying but page seven and YOU have taken the liberty of the town to ask for a claim? When you've done like nothing this game? That's a little strange in my opinion.

not at all. I STARTED the freaking wagon, the others jumping mindlessly or bandwagonning without case don't affect my vote on BC. However, if he does flip town, then they'll be a good list of players up for analysis

Uh, just because you started a wagon does not eliminate you from being scum bud. Sorry to burst your bubble.

unvote;

vote DeathNote

Almost 100% sure he is scum.

For someone who's 100% sure a player is scum you sure don't do a good job of explaining why.

I am pretty sure you do not share the same win con as me.

...That was awful reasoning for a "100% sure" vote.

Arguing over the fact of who started the wagon does nothing to lessen the fact that BC is town.

And now you know that BloodCovenent is town? Wow you sure seem to know a lot about players' alignments in this game.

I am near 100% sure BC is town based on post 151.

I am near 100% sure DeathNote is scum based on post 165.

You have anything wrong with what I just said?

Yeah, this is crap. I don't like players who think they know everything about players' alignments this early in the game. I think that's a pretty big scumtell right there.

magic, I think you are town and so I am going to be patient and say this one last time. My reasoning is quite clear if you read all five, not three, posts of mine on page seven. I am

not

going to explain it any further than that. I am not going to give town knowledge to scum.

What are you talking about? So you've cleared another player as town? And of all players magichands?

Vote: Konowa

For insinuating that he has knowledge of multiple players' alignments and attempting to steamroll the town with his "confidence". No no no, town doesn't play like that, we do not attempt to run the town and tell everybody that a certain player is X because they "KNOW" or they are "SURE".

[Konowa]

For insinuating that he has knowledge of multiple players' alignments and attempting to steamroll the town with his "confidence". No no no, town doesn't play like that, we do not attempt to run the town and tell everybody that a certain player is X because they "KNOW" or they are "SURE".

This is how I play. This feels more like a vote based on my playstyle rather than anything else.

Also, I have not cleared magic at all. Something was said earlier that makes me think he is town.

[magichands]

Moderator I voted Konowa in my last post but it seems you accidentally skimmed by it.

Unvote; Vote Konowa

X:

Whoops, my bad.

[ConfidAnon]

Unvote

Konowa, explain

exactly

what has made you clear BloodCovenant and call Death Note to scum.

Failure to do so can, and most likely will result in a lynch.

[Konowa]

I already explained and will not go back over it because X said to stop role pm discussion.

[magichands]

Wait a minute, you can explain what you did without a role pm.

You just have to say you suspect another player to be whatever role you expect them to be, and its not discussing role pm.

Now please, explain.

[Konowa]

I have already stated why I thought DeathNote to be scum. If I state the reasoning I have already stated, I will probably be mod-killed. I would prefer this not to happen, thanks.

X:

This is accurate.

[ConfidAnon]

Failure to do so can, and most likely will result in a lynch.

I gave you fair warning.

Vote: Konowa

[Konowa]

Really? Are you trying to get me mod-killed? If I go over my thought process, which X has already told us to stop, I am assuming I will be mod-killed. What about this do you not understand?

[magichands]

Yeah after looking through page 7 for the 3rd time im sticking with my vote on Konowa for the time being as well

[tubby216]

ok look Konowa i will help ou out this once, and ou tell me if i am right or wrong.

the reason Konowa voted deathnote and believes him scum is that Deathnote refused or just diddn't see why BC could be town from BC's claim in post 151, (i pointed it out on page 8). Death note took a rigid stance stating he was unwilling to change his vote.


for further reference please look at page 8 and konowa's and mine conversation.


Konowa does that make sense

[tubby216]

sorry my Y key keep sticking

[Konowa]

the reason Konowa voted deathnote and believes him scum is that Deathnote refused or just didn't see why BC could be town from BC's claim in post 151, (i pointed it out on page 8). Death note took a rigid stance stating he was unwilling to change his vote.

This.

[ConfidAnon]

I'm not pressing the modkill issue . . . I just don't understand his cases, and it sounds like he's using the rules as a cop out.

Also, for the record, I believe that Blood Covenant is town, but I think that if Konowa flips scum, Death Note is more clear.