roflcopter: 3 (elvis_knits, Kmd4390, PookyTheMagicalBear)
Yosarian2: 2 (charter, VP Baltar)
Thesp: 1 (roflcopter)
Not Voting: 5 (ekiM, SerialClergyman, Thesp, Yosarian2, zu_Faul)
I don't breadcrumb this offensively.Thesp wrote: There's a clear difference here - the "citizen" word is pretty synonymous with townie - it looks an awful lot like trying to breadcrumb (and for someone who apparently missed roflcopter's "breadcrumb", it stuck out to me like one).
a) This is totally unrelated to what I said.charter wrote:zu faul, I pushed for tajo's lynch harder than anyone but SC. Tajo flipped scum. I don't understand what the problem is here. And plus, if anyone but you seriously considers me scum (unlikely) I can always suicide and extend deadline! But since I didn't do that when we were threatening a no lynch with about ten hours until deadline, that's a pretty unlikely scenario.
Do you think Yosarian2 should be allowed near the endgame?elvis_knits wrote:I would rather not go for a possible 2-fer-1 trying to lynch a possible GF, who if we're wrong will really screw us up. If rofl is traitor, we lynch Yos tomorrow and he's probably GF. There's nothing really lost by doing it that way. It takes an extra day, but we can afford that. We cannot afford to lynch yos first if for some reason he flips town.
I'm not sure how you could assert that you'd have no benefit as scum to having the seeds of a fakeclaim planted.zu_Faul wrote:Honestly, the only case I see against me is the "breadcrumb" which I have already explained. I could not get anything out of it as scum.
Based on, a scum claimed an innocent on someone who claimed an innocent on me?Thesp wrote:Do you think Yosarian2 should be allowed near the endgame?elvis_knits wrote:I would rather not go for a possible 2-fer-1 trying to lynch a possible GF, who if we're wrong will really screw us up. If rofl is traitor, we lynch Yos tomorrow and he's probably GF. There's nothing really lost by doing it that way. It takes an extra day, but we can afford that. We cannot afford to lynch yos first if for some reason he flips town.
This is a good post.charter wrote:If rofl is town:
charter
ekiM
elvis_knits
Kmd4390
PookyTheMagicalBear
roflcopter
SerialClergyman
Thesp
VP Baltar
Yosarian2
zu_Faul
I include myself and ekim in this list, since we can easily confirm ourselves. I include SC since he's pretty much the towniest person here and he's most likely going to die protecting kmd.
I'm not buying this as our remaining four scum. I think Elvis is town, and I think Pooky is probably town.
I'd be willing to lynch zu Faul today as well, since he's guaranteed scum as well, but the probable twofer we're going to get by lynching Yosarian seems the best idea to me.
If kmd is taking vig requests, my vote is for zu faul (assuming we lynch one of rofl/yos and the other doesn't die) since he's by far the scummiest person still alive.
Oh shit guys, he's right. Scum never defend town. Now what?zu_Faul wrote: No one even considers I was not on the BAB wagon and defended him. If you push for a scum lynch, you are town, and if you push against a town lynch, you are... scum? Honestly, the only case I see against me is the "breadcrumb" which I have already explained. I could not get anything out of it as scum.
Roflcopter's not going to townflip.Serial Clergyman wrote:Thesp totally missed the point. A town flip on rofl resolves any question about yos - he's then confirmed town.
If they are both scum, as is likely, the order hardly matters. But if rofl townflips were in a much better position than if yos townflips.
So essentially, provided there is no mafia roleblocker and kmd has 2 bullets, we get to pick 3 out of 4 of elvis, vp, thesp and pooky to kill for the win.
We can get confirmation of how many shots kmd has left from him, but we won't know about the roleblocker (not that there's any evidence to suggest a blocking).
If kmd has 0 shots, then we'll be able to kill 2 of those 4. If kmd has one shot and we can get a 2-fer, we'll be able to kill 3 out of those 4.
So imo, the only real time where it's useful to target yos over rofl is if kmd has one shot and one shot only.