NY 117: The Vanillaside (Game over)

[Seraphim]

I'm quite leery about Vezok's sudden switch from DemonHybrid to SSBF when the wagon started fully materializing especially considering how sure he seemed that DH was scum.

Oh well.

I find sera's constant use of meta so far to be bothersome.

"Constant"? I've used it twice.

That being said.

Unvote

I need to reread the game.

[Jack]

page 1 ssbf is scummy
page 2 mehplus seems townie, ssbf is scummy, DH "I don't like how he dropped his yelling act" post is scummy, elli is too quiet, korts gets scum points for "fruitful" and "discussion", ssbf 47 sounds sincere
page3 elli using too few words, @spyrex 69, if you can't think why it is even being discussed, and you are townie, then what do you think about mr. fruitful who started it?, soc 74 sounds real,
page 4 rayfrost 75 agreed on elli town points for rf, 78 elli is probscum, mixed feelings about seraphim 80, seraphim 82 is scummy he walks back his accusation but pretends like he isn't, end of page yes DH is stretchingand taking a bunch of words to say gut, agreed rayfrost 94 for same reasons as last time,
page 5 skipping the wall argument, DH is prob scum for "slipping in his logic and reasoning somewhat" aka "I'm scum but his argument is bad", 121 not much of a post from incog, 122 very nice vote on korts, Seraphim 143 is very scum I have no problem with vezok's posts (no different than nacho anyway), seraphim 158 "am I not allowed" etc is a form of AtE, korts 163 is making him sound more like one of those discussion-obsessed townies which fits more with incog-scum, elli 72 no scum reads?, frost 174 don't think scum are eager to admit knowledge of how a scum role works,
page 8 nacho 180 is good,
page 9 agree with soc that vezo wagon is bad
page 10 agree with korts about seraphim, ssbf 244 bit too contradictory to be scum keeping his vote on

SCUM:
Seraphim
Elli
DH

vote:Seraphim

[Jack]

Forgot incog on that list and I haven't read most of DH's posts past midgame or so. Seraphim is scum however.

[Seraphim]

Looking at Jack's post and Korts' post, I am still not sure why I am being called scum. So I'm just going to ignore it until I can do something about it. Anyway,

Unvote
Vote: SSBF

Unlike my previous votes, which were either based on admittedly flimsy meta(RayFrost), lurky/anti-town posting(Vezok), or some combination of the two(Nacho), this one is very much for serious. I am seeing In the meantime, a reread of the game offers a fascinating look into SSBF-scum.

Especially this post and this post, to a degree, offer us a lot of nothing while giving his posts quite a lot of volume. However, the interesting part is how he doesn't follow up with ANY of his "ideas". His day-rationing plan went ignored and, unlike Korts, he's not following it up, not bringing it up again, which seems to indicate that he didn't really believe what he was saying.

Next, we'll cover his resilience to unvoting Vezokpiraka.

He's currently putting forth the minimal effort possible, showing a lack of care for the game.

His response to pressure is much worse then MehPlusRawr's, who at least put forth effort toward defending himself. He has still not answer Socrates's question on who else is scum.

Bolded the important part. There were arguably other players at this point in the game who were putting forth minimal effort, such as Ellie and Nacho, and yet SSBF did not point them out and wagoned onto Vezok.

This is where he outlines his reasons for keeping his vote on Vezok. His reasoning(or rather lack of it):

vezokpiraka's PBPA of DemonHybrid (hopefully) shows that he is willing to contribute to the game after all, but not exactly one of the better PBPA's I've seen.

Translation: "my initial reason for voting Vezok(his lack of effort) is pretty much disproven. I need a new reason to appear consistent so I will attack his content."

I want you to read through his posts in ISO if you haven't yet. It reveals a sort of...controlled, careful play. It doesn't read as town to me. This is more gut than anything to be honest but I rely a lot on my gut when I play so this makes sense to me.

That's all I've got for now.

[vezokpiraka]

If SSBF flips town we lynch Sera.
End of deal.

[Seraphim]

Seraphim will be getting the evil eye if SSBF flips scum, you can count on that.

If SSBF flips town we lynch Sera.

Now I'm REALLY confused.

[xRECKONERx]

If SSBF flips town we lynch Sera.
End of deal.

what why

[Fate]

TOWN:
MPR

...first time this year.

You've posted more in this thread collectively than any other games I've been with you.

KEEP IT UP, and if you're scum keep me alive till endgame. I'll give you da win I promise (Read Rapture Mafia game if you think Im bluffin about stuff >_>)

[Hoopla]

Day 1, Vote Count #8

With fourteen alive, it takes

8

votes to lynch. Deadline is schedueled for 22:00 GMT, August 16th <Countdown>.

Super Smash Bros Fan -

5

(Fate, vezokpiraka, Ellibereth, Socrates, Seraphim)

vezokpiraka -

3

(SpyreX, Super Smash Bros Fan, DemonHybrid)

DemonHybrid -

2

(Nachomamma8, MehPlusRawr)

Seraphim -

2

(Korts, Jack)

Nachomamma8 -

1

(xRECKONERx)

Not voting -

1

(RayFrost)

[Fate]

Now's the time to bus SSBF, SpyreX.

Go for gold baby.

[xRECKONERx]

WAIT I WANT IN ON THIS HOT WAGON

VOTE: SSBF

[DemonHybrid]

If SSBF flips town we lynch Sera.
End of deal.

I'd like your reply to my rebuttal of your PBPA, since you seem to have time to post.

Jack, I'd like to know your thoughts on it too, since you said you never really read any of my posts after mid-game.

[SpyreX]

Awww yes Fate in the house wooo <3.

THAT SAID:

You know whats awesome? When I call a wagon as having scum on it (1 if v is scum, 2 if not) and what happens?

It scatters to the wind. Yessir that makes me happy all over.

(OHH SNAP BUS) I'd lynch SSBF, or DH. Sera is a lower target than others that I dont want to even get into at the moment.

HOWEVER, I am not stoked at all about the disintegration of that wagon on vezok and I want real explanations not 2scum4scumdaytalk.

That means you. All of you jumpers. I want answers.

[Nachomamma8]

SSBF isn't an amazing wagon, but I'll probably relook if we put him to L-1.

Feeling DH a bit more at the moment. Or Korts. Korts would be a good lynch.

[Socrates]

Okay Spyrex, you are the next contestant on...

IS IT DUMB OR IS IT SCUMB!?

Its been pretty established that Vezo's posts have been really dumb and he doesn't seem to have the firmest grasp of the English language.

What has been noticeably NOT established is whether or not those posts came from dumbscum or dumbtown.

The only

scummy

thing Vezo has done is the DH vote, which does not justify the wagon he had.

And abandoning a wagon because someone said "there's scum on that there wagon!" would be really dumb considering that there is scum on EVERY WAGON EVER.

[SpyreX]

I'll delve into this deeper when I'm not tired and buzzed BUT:

Throwing a vote down on the wagon(tm) and then after the fact justifying it with a "ohh wow my read synchs perfectly" isn't dumb. Its scummy.

And when I say there's scum on that wagon I was specific: 1 on if vez is scum, 2 on if not. Those, good sir, are good odds not OHH GOD EVERY WAGON IS SCUM'D. Further, with a little energon and a lot of luck I could, in fact, parse it beyond that sans flip.

Additionally, if I'm on is it dumb (yes) or is it scum (also yes) you've just joined the secret best gameshow:

IF VEZO IS A SCUM PR YOU GET TO BECOME THE DEAD! YAY!

(seriously there need be no case just quote this and lynch accordingly if I am right tia).

I mean watching the birds scatter doesn't raise an eyebrow anywhere? None?

[Fate]

Do I have to explain Spy?

Or just other wagon hoppers?

[Fate]

I know you're online Spyrex.

[Fate]

K Spyrex, sleep well....

You have some splainin' to do in the morning.

[Socrates]

Yep Spy, all you got is that one reason to cling to your Vezo vote, which I already pointed out myself. Are you seriously telling me that one bad vote is enough for your gung-ho attitude for the Vezo wagon?

If vezo flips scum I will take my mislynch like a man.

And it would be kinda hard for Vezo to be scum and NOT a power role since all three scum are power roles.

[Fate]

*reads Socrates post*

They are?

*reads open PM*

Oh fuck a day role cop?

QUICKHAMMER SSBF BEFORE THEY GET IT IN

>_>
<_<

[Fate]

But yeah if we could get a Spyscum lynch going D1 that'd be freaking amazing.

Since he didn't know I was playing this game until D1, he won't be able to go to his QT and tell his buddies to kill me.

PERFECT.

[Korts]

Sorry to burst your bubble, Fate, but scum have daytalk as long as their encryptor is alive.

Seraphim, I love how you were brought out of your comfort zone. I also love how apparent you are in fishing for easy wagons. Just look at the progression. Ray was fine, but then: vezok, BAM, almost lynched; SpyreX claims that there's scum on the vezok wagon, and I accuse you specifically, and you hop right off in your next post; then immediately following, it's Nacho, the counterwagon all the cool kids are on these days; you get called out by Ray, and in the next post you unvote--only to vote the wagon of most current promise, SSBF, two hours later. You always seem to be voting for the least popular player, and you always get off when some people are starting to express doubt over that particular choice of lynch.

[Korts]

By the way, fuck you all arrogant dumbasses who refuse to discuss Reck's lynch. Yes, this would mean admitting that the night game is at least as important as the day game, but look at it like this: the scum

will

use every tool at their disposal to fuck with our minds; we have the option of taking some of those tools away. IT'S WORTH AT LEAST A FUCKING DISCUSSION.

Dumbasses.

[Fate]

NO ITS NOT. I ALREADY ENDED THAT DISCUSSION KORTS. DEAL WITH IT.