Hallo.
My apologies for posting this late. I'm not that fond on forum posting from my mobile, and was waiting to actually sit down in front of a computer to do this(before you ask, yes, i did lurk and skimmed through the thread). I wanted to address some points and quotes but it's too much at this point with these many comments...anyways, I'll just have to work with what I have from now on.
As of now, I don't really see anyone oveeeerly scummy, and, while serious posting has already started, the current phase of pointing fingers at each other is still based on small subjective "vilifications" of comments and reactions. However, I wouldn't have jumped as early as Aranneas did into calling RVS over. Also, not all players have chimed in to post yet(myself included 'til this post). That being said, there are some points that I'm not liking on some players' comments.
My initial thoughts on reluctant's initial vote justification, and then being called out to change his FoS into his 2nd-vote, attributed these actions as slip ups of a new player (assuming his claim on this being his first game to be true, ofc). However, his FoS argument was rather weak, and the interpretation jumps that he had on the Aranneas statement on RVS equaling quick-lynches seemed like a fishy redirection of attention into his target.
Jumping on to Sak's perceived defeatism trying to scare the other players and her call not to lynch today, I wouldn't necessarily interpret it as a scummy move like Thor and Travis pointed out, but more as a "cultural shock" of sorts, but that is more cause of some bias to this approach from previous game set-ups I've played/hosted elsewhere that I also have. In any case, it seems like the constrains on outside communication that PRs have(if there are any in this game) wouldn't allow for a sure-fire strategy, and we will have to go on the reads and leads gathered everyday. Not lynching today would make Day 2 pretty damn similar to Day 1 only with a dead townie to carry on our shoulders and a day of disadvantage to lynch a scum. One thing that I did notice and bothered me, was the inconsistency on her initial claim of gaining zero information from voting/lynching patterns and then basing her vote mostly on the voting patterns she examined.
@Thor; going back to the probability argument, you mentioned the percentage on mafia wins being 55-57%. I gotta say that it first strucked me as a faulty statistic since a fairly higher number of finished newbie games I clicked on had Mafia wins as results(this was by no means the entire sample population of the statistic but was still somewhat of an indicator), and well, I didn't see anything on this matter in the wiki page....Was that number just a rough estimate you threw in or an actual percentage "hidden" somewhere in the wiki page(if so, I'd like to see the link please)?
Although I have not replied to willows_weep initial set of questions, so far I perceive his few posts as throwing more coal into the fire and not really having as much substance as one would expect from an experience player. But I guess I'll have to wait a bit more on this one to have something a bit more "conclusive". Same for scapegoat's random post, and DukeJupiter's inactivity.
Summing up, I do feel a bit uneasy about a couple of players but basically reluctant stands out from the crowd. Even though his inconsistencies might presumably be caused by inexperience, I'd like to see what comes out of putting some pressure into him. Now, at two votes from lynching, still a player missing and a couple of us with not much activity yet, voting might be a bit of a rushed move.
FoS: reluctant
for now.
