Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia (Game Over)


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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:56 pm

Post by Amrun »

I think this might be my worst game ever.

Ever.

I hated it, every second of it, and I don't know why.

Flavor was nice.
I survived
Tigerpocalypse 2011


Fusion Mafia, ongoing now.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:57 pm

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ROAR. Where is my scummy for best replacement.

But seriously GI was MVP nice job bra. Sry about the early clash.
watch for the eggshells
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:58 pm

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Well, my original reads went like:

Amrun- Right
Ace- Right
CJ- Was a mason with me, but when the conversion happened, I knew if it was anyone it was him.
Malthusis- Right
Vollkan- Wrong
ZeL1nk- I had him null, so I'll say wrong. :S

So uh... 3.5/6? Maybe 4? I'm happy, considering I died N2 :(
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:58 pm

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Amrun, you did ok.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:59 pm

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Wonder what shapeshifting means
watch for the eggshells
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:02 pm

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Role PMs


Note: Some of the role PM pictures are different than the original because the site that hosted a lot of them went down, so I just Google searched for replacement images.

Keel LorenzWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, malthusis. You are
Keel Lorenz
(Angel-Enabled Action-Immune Serial Killer)
. You are the leader of the mysterious organization SEELE that pulls the strings of the world's governments from behind the scenes. You have incredible power and influence over various worldwide organizations, but your true intentions are known only to a select few.

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You are a self-aligned serial killer.

Abilities

Kill
- During night phases, you may attempt to kill another player.
Dead Sea Scrolls (Census)
- The Dead Sea scrolls give you insight as to the nature of the Angels. During night phases, you may use this ability. I will inform you how many
Angels
are still in the game. You may only use this ability twice during the game. You may use this ability on the same night that you perform a kill.
SEELE 01: Sound Only (Action Immunity)
- You are a mysterious figure, interacting with others through a monolith that projects only your voice. Very few, if any, people have direct contact with you. You send mass production Evangelion units to carry out your orders. Any active abilities that target you, either directly or indirectly, will be unsuccessful. This is a passive ability. If the
Angels
are defeated at any point during the game, you will lose this ability. A modscene will be posted when this occurs, informing all players that the
Angels
have been defeated.

Safeclaim

You know that
Misato Katsuragi
is not in the game. A template role PM for this safeclaim will be sent to you in a separate PM. At any point during the game, you may request a fake role PM by telling the mod which role and abilities you want. This fake role PM will be sent to you via PM. You are limited to one such fakeclaim request during the game.

Win Condition

You win when you are the only player still alive or when nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Kaworu NagisaWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, ace5993. You are
Kaworu Nagisa/Tabris
(Godfather)
. You are the only Angel to appear in the form of a human, and successfully tricked Nerv into thinking that you are the Fifth Child. Despite your non-threatening appearance, your AT field is the most powerful of all the Angels.

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You are aligned with the
Angels
. Your partners are vollkan, Amrun, and ZeL1nK. You may communicate with them at any time here.

Factional Abilities

Kill
- You and your partners share a factional kill that one of you may perform at night.
Infect (Recruit)
- During day phases, your faction may attempt to recruit a player by popular vote among your members. You may only use this ability once during the game. You may not use this ability if doing so will immediately result in your faction achieving its win condition.
The recruit attempt can have the following outcomes:
- If the player you target is an Evangelion unit, they will become
Bardiel
.
- If the player you target is a Magi computer, they will become
Ireul
.
- If any other player is targeted, the recruit attempt will be unsuccessful.
You will be informed whether the recruit attempt was successful or not. If successful, you will be told whether the recruited player has become
Bardiel
or
Ireul
, but you will not be told what their previous role was. If successful, the following will happen to the recruited player:
- They will receive a new role PM explaining what has occured.
- They will become part of your faction and share your win condition.
- They will be informed who the other members of your faction are, but will be unable to communicate with you or the rest of your partners outside of the game thread.
- They will keep any abilities they had prior to being recruited.
Using this ability, whether successful or not, will trigger a mod scene implying that
Nerv
has been infiltrated and that the game state may have been altered. Using this ability, whether successful or not, may also change other game parameters that could throw
Nerv
into disarray, although you are not certain exactly what the consequences will be. You may use this ability in one of two ways:
- If your faction did not attempt a kill the previous night, you may attempt to recruit the following day without additional restrictions.
- If your faction did attempt a kill the previous night, or if it is Day 1, you may still attempt to recruit. However, by doing so, you will lose all factional and individual powers for the rest of the day and the following night. This includes your factional kill, as well as any individual active and passive abilities. If Arael's active ability has already been used that day, you may not recruit in this manner.

Individual Abilities

Fifth Child (Godfather)
- You possess the form of a human, allowing you to pass as the Fifth Child. If you are targeted by an investigative ability that attempts to determine your alignment, the player who targeted you will be told the opposite of the result they would have received otherwise. This is a passive ability.

Safeclaims

You and your partners know that
Asuka Langley Soryu
,
Gendo Ikari
,
Shigeru Aoba
, and
Evangelion Unit-05
are not in the game. Template role PMs for these safeclaims will be posted in your faction's quicktopic. At any point during the game, you may request a fake role PM by telling the mod which character, role, and abilities you want. This fake role PM will be posted in the quicktopic. You are limited to one such fakeclaim request for each member of your faction.

Win Condition

You win when all players other than those in your faction are dead and at least one member of your faction is alive, or when nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



AraelWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, vollkan. You are
Arael
(Modified Day Role Cop)
. You take the appearance of a large winged creature made of light. You have powerful psychic abilities, allowing you to delve into the minds of your victims.

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You are aligned with the
Angels
. Your partners are ace5993, Amrun, and ZeL1nK. You may communicate with them at any time here.

Factional Abilities

Kill
- You and your partners share a factional kill that one of you may perform at night.
Infect (Recruit)
- During day phases, your faction may attempt to recruit a player by popular vote among your members. You may only use this ability once during the game. You may not use this ability if doing so will immediately result in your faction achieving its win condition.
The recruit attempt can have the following outcomes:
- If the player you target is an Evangelion unit, they will become
Bardiel
.
- If the player you target is a Magi computer, they will become
Ireul
.
- If any other player is targeted, the recruit attempt will be unsuccessful.
You will be informed whether the recruit attempt was successful or not. If successful, you will be told whether the recruited player has become
Bardiel
or
Ireul
, but you will not be told what their previous role was. If successful, the following will happen to the recruited player:
- They will receive a new role PM explaining what has occured.
- They will become part of your faction and share your win condition.
- They will be informed who the other members of your faction are, but will be unable to communicate with you or the rest of your partners outside of the game thread.
- They will keep any abilities they had prior to being recruited.
Using this ability, whether successful or not, will trigger a mod scene implying that
Nerv
has been infiltrated and that the game state may have been altered. Using this ability, whether successful or not, may also change other game parameters that could throw
Nerv
into disarray, although you are not certain exactly what the consequences will be. You may use this ability in one of two ways:
- If your faction did not attempt a kill the previous night, you may attempt to recruit the following day without additional restrictions.
- If your faction did attempt a kill the previous night, or if it is Day 1, you may still attempt to recruit. However, by doing so, you will lose all factional and individual powers for the rest of the day and the following night. This includes your factional kill, as well as any individual active and passive abilities. If Arael's active ability has already been used that day, you may not recruit in this manner.

Individual Abilities

Mind Probe (Role Name Investigation)
- You may attempt to investigate another player during day phases by informing the mod via PM or in your faction's quicktopic. If successful, you will be told that player's role name (e.g. "Pen Pen"), but not their role or alignment. That player will not know that they were targeted by this ability. You may only use one of your investigative abilities per day.
Mind Rape (Full Role Investigation)
- You may attempt to investigate another player during day phases by informing the mod via PM or in your faction's quicktopic. If successful, you will be told that player's role name (e.g. "Pen Pen"), role (e.g. "Vanilla Townie"), and alignment (e.g. "Nerv"). That player will receive a PM suggesting to them that their mind was invaded, although it will not reveal exactly what type of action was used on them. You may only use one of your investigative abilities per day.

Safeclaims

You and your partners know that
Asuka Langley Soryu
,
Gendo Ikari
,
Shigeru Aoba
, and
Evangelion Unit-05
are not in the game. Template role PMs for these safeclaims will be posted in your faction's quicktopic. At any point during the game, you may request a fake role PM by telling the mod which character, role, and abilities you want. This fake role PM will be posted in the quicktopic. You are limited to one such fakeclaim request for each member of your faction.

Win Condition

You win when all players other than those in your faction are dead and at least one member of your faction is alive, or when nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



LelielWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Amrun. You are
Leliel
(Modified Roleblocker/Rolestopper)
. You initially appear to be a floating sphere, but your body is actually the "shadow" on the ground below. The floating sphere is your true shadow projected into 3-dimensional space. Any entities that fall into your body are absorbed into a Dirac Sea.

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You are aligned with the
Angels
. Your partners are ace5993, vollkan, and ZeL1nK. You may communicate with them at any time here.

Factional Abilities

Kill
- You and your partners share a factional kill that one of you may perform at night.
Infect (Recruit)
- During day phases, your faction may attempt to recruit a player by popular vote among your members. You may only use this ability once during the game. You may not use this ability if doing so will immediately result in your faction achieving its win condition.
The recruit attempt can have the following outcomes:
- If the player you target is an Evangelion unit, they will become
Bardiel
.
- If the player you target is a Magi computer, they will become
Ireul
.
- If any other player is targeted, the recruit attempt will be unsuccessful.
You will be informed whether the recruit attempt was successful or not. If successful, you will be told whether the recruited player has become
Bardiel
or
Ireul
, but you will not be told what their previous role was. If successful, the following will happen to the recruited player:
- They will receive a new role PM explaining what has occured.
- They will become part of your faction and share your win condition.
- They will be informed who the other members of your faction are, but will be unable to communicate with you or the rest of your partners outside of the game thread.
- They will keep any abilities they had prior to being recruited.
Using this ability, whether successful or not, will trigger a mod scene implying that
Nerv
has been infiltrated and that the game state may have been altered. Using this ability, whether successful or not, may also change other game parameters that could throw
Nerv
into disarray, although you are not certain exactly what the consequences will be. You may use this ability in one of two ways:
- If your faction did not attempt a kill the previous night, you may attempt to recruit the following day without additional restrictions.
- If your faction did attempt a kill the previous night, or if it is Day 1, you may still attempt to recruit. However, by doing so, you will lose all factional and individual powers for the rest of the day and the following night. This includes your factional kill, as well as any individual active and passive abilities. If Arael's active ability has already been used that day, you may not recruit in this manner.

Individual Abilities

Dirac Sea (Roleblock/Rolestop/Message)
- You may attempt to roleblock/rolestop another player at night. If successful, you will prevent that player from performing any active abilities that night. Any active abilities that target that player that night will be unsuccessful. The targeted player will receive a PM informing them that they were enveloped in a dark void and unable to interact with anyone, although it will not reveal exactly what type of action was used on them. You may not target yourself or members of your faction. You have the option of sending your target a message, which will be delivered by the mod in the same PM. They will be told that they hear a voice in their head, followed by the message, but they will not know anything else and will not be able to respond privately. The message may be no longer than 100 words. You may not use this ability on the same night that you perform your faction's kill attempt.

Safeclaims

You and your partners know that
Asuka Langley Soryu
,
Gendo Ikari
,
Shigeru Aoba
, and
Evangelion Unit-05
are not in the game. Template role PMs for these safeclaims will be posted in your faction's quicktopic. At any point during the game, you may request a fake role PM by telling the mod which character, role, and abilities you want. This fake role PM will be posted in the quicktopic. You are limited to one such fakeclaim request for each member of your faction.

Win Condition

You win when all players other than those in your faction are dead and at least one member of your faction is alive, or when nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



RamielWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, ZeL1nK. You are
Ramiel
(Shapeshifting Jack-of-All-Trades)
. Although you normally appear as a floating octahedron, you have incredible shapeshifting abilities, allowing you to assume nearly any geometrical form at will and giving you the power to adapt instantly to meet any threats that get too close to you.

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You are aligned with the
Angels
. Your partners are ace5993, vollkan, and Amrun. You may communicate with them at any time here.

Factional Abilities

Kill
- You and your partners share a factional kill that one of you may perform at night. You may only perform your faction's kill attempt if you shapeshifted to your kill ability or did not shapeshift at all during the preceding day.
Infect (Recruit)
- During day phases, your faction may attempt to recruit a player by popular vote among your members. You may only use this ability once during the game. You may not use this ability if doing so will immediately result in your faction achieving its win condition.
The recruit attempt can have the following outcomes:
- If the player you target is an Evangelion unit, they will become
Bardiel
.
- If the player you target is a Magi computer, they will become
Ireul
.
- If any other player is targeted, the recruit attempt will be unsuccessful.
You will be informed whether the recruit attempt was successful or not. If successful, you will be told whether the recruited player has become
Bardiel
or
Ireul
, but you will not be told what their previous role was. If successful, the following will happen to the recruited player:
- They will receive a new role PM explaining what has occured.
- They will become part of your faction and share your win condition.
- They will be informed who the other members of your faction are, but will be unable to communicate with you or the rest of your partners outside of the game thread.
- They will keep any abilities they had prior to being recruited.
Using this ability, whether successful or not, will trigger a mod scene implying that
Nerv
has been infiltrated and that the game state may have been altered. Using this ability, whether successful or not, may also change other game parameters that could throw
Nerv
into disarray, although you are not certain exactly what the consequences will be. You may use this ability in one of two ways:
- If your faction did not attempt a kill the previous night, you may attempt to recruit the following day without additional restrictions.
- If your faction did attempt a kill the previous night, or if it is Day 1, you may still attempt to recruit. However, by doing so, you will lose all factional and individual powers for the rest of the day and the following night. This includes your factional kill, as well as any individual active and passive abilities. If Arael's active ability has already been used that day, you may not recruit in this manner.

Individual Abilities

Shapeshift (Change Ability)
- You possess the ability to shapeshift, granting you a variety of one-shot abilities that you may use during night phases. However, in order to use a particular ability, you must shapeshift during day phases by PMing the mod or posting in your faction's quicktopic, "
Shapeshift: (ability)
". You may shapeshift as many times as you want during the day, but any shapeshift attempts after the day ends will not count. Whichever ability you have shapeshifted to by the end of the day is the only ability you may use that night. You may not use an ability more than once during the game with the exception of your factional kill. You may only perform your faction's kill attempt if you shapeshifted to your kill ability or did not shapeshift at all during the preceding day. The abilities that you may use are as follows:
Protect
- You may protect another player. If successful, any standard kill attempts that target the player that night will be prevented. You may not target yourself.
Reflect
- You may use this ability, which will target yourself. If successful, any actions that target you during the same night phase will instead be reflected back at the player who performed the action.
Roleblock
- You may roleblock another player. If successful, any active abilities used by the player that night will fail.
Self-Watch
- You may use this ability, which will target yourself. If successful, you will be told who, if anybody, targeted you that same night.
Kill
- You may perform your faction's kill attempt, as described above. This is the only ability that may be used more than once.

Safeclaims

You and your partners know that
Asuka Langley Soryu
,
Gendo Ikari
,
Shigeru Aoba
, and
Evangelion Unit-05
are not in the game. Template role PMs for these safeclaims will be posted in your faction's quicktopic. At any point during the game, you may request a fake role PM by telling the mod which character, role, and abilities you want. This fake role PM will be posted in the quicktopic. You are limited to one such fakeclaim request for each member of your faction.

Win Condition

You win when all players other than those in your faction are dead and at least one member of your faction is alive, or when nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Shinji IkariWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Pomegranate. You are
Shinji Ikari
(Hider)
. You are the Third Child and the pilot of Evangelion Unit-01. You appear indifferent and anti-social, but in reality you seek encouragement and praise from others. You have a tendency to run away from tough situations.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Run Away (Hide)
- You may attempt to hide behind another player at night. If you successfully hide behind another player who is aligned with
Nerv
, any abilities that target you that night will fail. You may not target yourself. If the player you hide behind is killed that same night, you will die as well. If you successfully hide behind a player who is not aligned with
Nerv
, you will die. You will not be informed whether your hide attempt was successful or not.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Rei AyanamiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Timeater. You are
Rei Ayanami
(One-Shot Self-Reviver)
. You are the First Child and the pilot of Evangelion Unit-00. You are quiet, detached, and mysterious, and your origins are known only to a few people within
Nerv
.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Rei III (Revive)
- If you die, you can be replaced. If you are killed at any point in the game, your role name, role, and alignment will not be revealed, but you will be revived at the start of the next day phase. This is a passive ability and will only be used once during the game. If you are killed a second time, your role, name, and alignment will be revealed.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Unit-00Welcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, LobsterCatapult. You are
Evangelion Unit-00
(One-Shot-Bulletproof Bodyguard)
. You were the first working prototype Evangelion, and as such, can be unstable.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Shield (Bulletproof)
- You have a shield that will protect you from one standard kill during the game. If an action or event that would have otherwise resulted in your death is taken, you will not die. This is a passive ability. You will be informed when this ability has been used.
Cover (Bodyguard)
- You tend to be assigned to support roles during important missions. During night phases, you may protect another player. If successful, you will protect them from any standard kill attempts that target the player that night. However, successfully protecting them will result in your death instead. Your shield ability can protect you from death in this manner.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Unit-01Welcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Kawaii. You are
Evangelion Unit-01
(Honorable Day Vigilante)
. You are the "Test Type" Evangelion unit. You have the mysterious ability to go berserk at times, operating without human guidance or a known power source.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Day Kill
- During day phases, you may attempt to kill another player by posting
Kill: (playername)
in the game thread. Doing so will trigger a mod scene, regardless of whether your kill is successful or not. If your kill is successful, the vote count will be reset and the deadline will be extended by a week (up to a maximum of three weeks). You may only use this ability once during the game unless told otherwise.
S2 Engine (Second Day Kill)
- If you successfully kill an
Angel
with your
Day Kill
ability, you will ingest its S2 engine, giving you a second
Day Kill
attempt. You will be informed when you have gained this ability. The second
Day Kill
attempt may not be used during the same day phase that your first attempt was used. You cannot obtain further uses of the Day Kill ability, regardless of the outcome of your second use.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Unit-02Welcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, GhostWriter. You are
Evangelion Unit-02
(Non-Consecutive Doctor)
. You are the first production model Evangelion, and are capable of using a variety of equipment designed for use by new Units.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

S-Type Equipment (Protect)
- Your S-Type equipment gives you extreme mobility, allowing you to move quickly to defend your allies. Unfortunately, it can only be used on battery power, so it can't be used indefinitely. During night phases, you may protect another player. If successful, any standard kill attempts that target the player that night will be prevented. You may not target yourself. You may not use this ability on consecutive night phases.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Unit-03Welcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, populartajo. You are
Evangelion Unit-03
(Roleblocker)
. You are the first American-constructed Evangelion unit, and the second production model Evangelion. Not much is known about your abilities.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Roleblock
- Your unusually long arms allow you to grab and hold targets. During night phases, you may roleblock another player. If successful, any active abilities used by the player that night will fail.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



MelchiorWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Candle Jack. You are
Melchior
(Mason)
. You are one of three supercomputers that run
Nerv
headquarters.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Magi (Mason)
- You are one of the three Magi supercomputers, along with Lady Lambdadelta and Nocmen. You know that you are all aligned with
Nerv
. You may communicate with the rest of the Magi at any time here.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



BalthasarWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Lady Lambdadelta. You are
Balthasar
(Mason)
. You are one of three supercomputers that run
Nerv
headquarters.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Magi (Mason)
- You are one of the three Magi supercomputers, along with Candle Jack and Nocmen. You know that you are all aligned with
Nerv
. You may communicate with the rest of the Magi at any time here.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



CasperWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Nocmen. You are
Casper
(Mason)
. You are one of three supercomputers that run
Nerv
headquarters.

Image


You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Magi (Mason)
- You are one of the three Magi supercomputers, along with Candle Jack and Lady Lambdadelta. You know that you are all aligned with
Nerv
. You may communicate with the rest of the Magi at any time here.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Ritsuko AkagiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Kast. You are
Ritsuko Akagi
(Modified Enabler/Inventor)
. You are the chief scientist at
Nerv
headquarters. You are a brilliant researcher and programmer, and are responsible for maintenance of the Evangelion units.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Program (Protect/Enable Investigation)
- You have the ability to interact with and reprogram the Magi supercomputers that run
Nerv
headquarters. During night phases, you may attempt to target another player with this ability. If the targeted player received a role PM at the start of the game telling them that they are one of the Magi supercomputers, this ability will be successful, otherwise it will have no effect. If successful, any standard kill attempts that target the player that night will be prevented. In addition, that player will receive a one-shot investigative ability that can be used during any subsequent day phase. This ability will allow them to target another player during the day to find out if they are an
Angel
or not. You will not be informed whether your ability was successful or not. This ability will only work once on each player capable of receiving this ability successfully.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Maya IbukiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, drewoftherushes. You are
Maya Ibuki
(Unspecified Backup)
. You are a computer technician at
Nerv
headquarters. You operate the primary control stations and provide support during battles.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Backup
- You are a backup to an unspecified role in the game. If the player whose role you are backing up is killed at any point in the game, you will inherit their abilities and will receive further instructions informing you of any new powers you may have gained. If the player you are backing up performed any active abilities before their death, you will be informed of what abilities they used and their targets throughout the game up to that point.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Kensuke AidaWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Starbuck. You are
Kensuke Aida
(Tracker)
. You have an unhealthy obsession with things related to war and the military, and have a strong desire to become an Evangelion pilot.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Camcorder (Track)
- You bring your camcorder everywhere you go, hoping to get cool footage of battles or other military-related equipment. During night phases, you may attempt to track another player. If successful, you will be told who, if anybody, the player targeted with an active ability that night.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Ryoji KajiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, GreyICE. You are
Ryoji Kaji
(Grave Digger)
. Although you appear to be working with
Nerv
, you actually are involved with multiple organizations, and your intentions are shrouded in mystery.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Triple Agent (Grave Digger)
- You appear to have your own agenda, often digging in places where you can find the information you need. You will be seen by any watch/tracking abilities to have targeted all players who were killed during a given night phase. This is a passive ability.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Toji SuzuharaWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Celebloki. You are
Toji Suzuhara
(Macho Townie)
. You are a bit of a jock, interested more in sports and food than in school.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Macho
- You refuse protection from others, fearing that it will make you look less manly. Any protective abilities that successfully target you will be ineffective. This is a passive ability.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Mari MakinamiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Antifinity. You are
Mari Illustrious Makinami
(Vanilla Townie)
. You are the pilot of Evangelion Unit-05. You are an exceptional pilot, though a bit of an oddball.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

None
- You have only your voice and your vote.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Kozo FuyutsukiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, SpyreX. You are
Kozo Fuyutsuki
(Vanilla Townie)
. You are
Nerv
's vice commander, taking charge when commander Ikari is away, though you often are sent to deal with administrative duties.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

None
- You have only your voice and your vote.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Makoto HyugaWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Bunnylover. You are
Makoto Hyuga
(Vanilla Townie)
. You are a computer technician at
Nerv
headquarters. You operate the primary control stations and provide support during battles.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

None
- You have only your voice and your vote.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Hikari HorakiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, Iecerint. You are
Hikari Horaki
(Vanilla Townie)
. You are the class representative at school, and though you can appear to be uptight and strict, you are responsible and have a kind and soft side.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

None
- You have only your voice and your vote.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:04 pm

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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:06 pm

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Mod Notes


Notes on Individual Roles

Keel
- All abilities that target Keel while the Angels are still alive will fail. This includes roleblocks/rolestops, kill attempts, and investigations. Also includes indirect reflexive roles (e.g. watchers wouldn't see him). Investigative roles that target him get a "You were unable to determine..." result, just the same as if they had been roleblocked.
Kaworu
- Enabled-Magi investigations on Kaworu will return "You determine your target to not be an Angel".
Arael
- The Mind Rape ability will result in this PM being sent to the target: "An intense beam of bright light shines upon you as you feel someone...or some
thing
...intruding into your mind..."
Leliel
- The Dirac Sea ability will result in this PM being sent to the target at the end of the night: "You found yourself enveloped in a void of darkness last night, unable to see or interact with anyone. You feel something trying to contact your mind. A distant voice calls to you: ..." followed by Leliel's message (optional).
Ramiel
- Shapeshifting will not void a recruit attempt through the second recruiting method (D1 or kill attempted the previous night) in the same way that Arael's ability would.
Shinji
- If he tries to hide behind Keel while Keel is still action immune, the hide attempt will fail. If he hides behind Keel after he has lost his action immunity, Shinji will die. Shinji still dies if he hides behind Kaworu.
Rei
- No reveal upon her first death, full reveal upon second death.
Unit-00
- One-shot bulletproof only blocks one kill attempt, so stacked attempts will kill it. Unit 00 still dies or uses its bulletproof ability if the protected player is also protected by another role and a kill attempt is made against them. If the bulletproof gets used, Unit-00 receives this PM: "Your
one-shot bulletproof
ability has been used and is no longer in effect."
Unit-01
- If the first kill attempt successfully kills an Angel, Unit-01 will receive this PM: "You have received a second
Day Kill
that functions in the same way as your first one. You may use it during any day phase after the current one."
Melchior/Balthasar/Casper
- When the Angels use their recruit attempt, the Magi will get their new PMs at the same time the mod scene is posted.
Ritsuko
- If Ritsuko successfully targets a Magi or Ireul, they receive this message: "You have received a one-shot ability that can be used during any day phase. You may PM the mod the name of a player you wish to investigate. You will attempt to determine whether that player is an
Angel
."
Maya
- If Ritsuko dies, she will get a new Modified Enabler/Inventor role PM. She will be informed of Ritsuko's previous night targets.
Toji
- Protective roles still target him, they just don't work. If Unit-00 protects Toji and Toji is targeted by a kill, Toji dies and Unit-00 gets hit as well.


---


Safeclaims

Misato KatsuragiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, malthusis. You are
Misato Katsuragi
(Role)
. You were the sole survivor of the Katsuragi expedition during the Second Impact and currently are in command of
Nerv
's tactical operations. Despite your tough and serious demeanor on the job, you have a very different personality when not working, fueled by a steady diet of ramen and beer.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Ability
- Ability description
Name (Ability)
- Ability description

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Asuka Langley SoryuWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, XXXXX. You are
Asuka Langley Soryu
(Role)
. You are the Second Child and the pilot of Evangelion Unit-02. You are confident and brash, and seek to become the best pilot of all.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Ability
- Ability description
Name (Ability)
- Ability description

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Gendo IkariWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, XXXXX. You are
Gendo Ikari
(Role)
. You are the commander of
Nerv
. You appear to be cold and calculating, and you seem to know much more than you are letting on.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Ability
- Ability description
Name (Ability)
- Ability description

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Shigeru AobaWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, XXXXX. You are
Shigeru Aoba
(Role)
. You are a computer technician at
Nerv
headquarters. You operate the primary control stations and provide support during battles.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Ability
- Ability description
Name (Ability)
- Ability description

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



Evangelion Unit-05Welcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, XXXXX. You are
Evangelion Unit-05
(Role)
. You are a provisional Evangelion unit. Unlike the other units, you do not have a humanoid appearance, but instead possess four legs and claw-like appendages.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Ability
- Ability description
Name (Ability)
- Ability description

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.



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Recruitment

If the Angels use their recruit attempt, the following modscene will trigger:
EMERGENCY


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"All hands to battle stations!
Angel
presence detected inside the geofront!"


Misato:
What? An Angel has gotten into the geofront?
Ritsuko:
Pattern, blue. It's an Angel all right.
Misato:
Where is it?
Hyuga:
Unable to get a confirmed location. The signal keeps moving around!
Gendo:
Seal off Central Dogma and the launch cages. Don't let it get here or to the Evangelions. Abandon the geofront if necessary.
Misato:
Seal off the cages? But the pilots won't be able to get to the Eva units!
Gendo:
If the Evas get contaminated, we're finished! Hurry!
Maya:
Separating Central Dogma and the cages. All partitions closing. Everyone in the area is to evacuate. Both areas will be sealed off in 30 seconds.
...
Maya:
Central Dogma has been completely sealed off.
Gendo:
Report.
Aoba:
The signal has disappeared.
Misato:
Did we stop it in time? How could it just disappear like that?
Gendo:
If we can't find it, unseal the cages. If the Angel got in here or to one of the Eva units before we could stop it, we'll need to hunt it down. Have the Magi run a complete systems check, and make sure they look everywhere. Trust nothing and nobody. Stay alert...

The game state may have changed, although you are not certain how...


If a Magi is recruited, they receive a new role PM:
IreulWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, XXXXX. You are
Ireul
(Infected Neighbor/Traitor)
. You are a rapidly-evolving collection of micro-organisms that can form an electronic system, allowing you to take over mechanical devices and computers.

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You have been recruited and are now aligned with the
Angels
. Your partners are ace5993, vollkan, Amrun, and ZeL1nK. They know that you are now a member of their faction, but you may not communicate with them privately.

Abilities

Infected Magi (Neighbor)
- You are one of the three Magi supercomputers, along with XXXXX and XXXXX, but you have been infected and taken over by the Angel
Ireul
. The other Magi are aware that you are no longer masons. You may communicate with the rest of the Magi at any time here.

Safeclaim

If you had not been recruited, you would have received the following new role PM. The rest of the Magi received a similar new role PM.
Welcome to
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, XXXXX. You are
Melchior/Balthasar/Casper
(Neighbor)
. You are one of three supercomputers that run
Nerv
headquarters.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Magi (Neighbor)
- You are one of the three Magi supercomputers, along with XXXXX and XXXXX. You know that you were all aligned with
Nerv
, but the recent attack may or may not have allowed the Angels to infiltrate
Nerv
headquarters. You are no longer sure of each others' alignment. You may communicate with the rest of the Magi at any time here.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.


Win Condition

You win when all players other than those in your faction are dead and at least one member of your faction is alive, or when nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.

The unrecruited Magi will receive new role PMs similar to Ireul's safeclaim PM.

If an Evangelion is recruited, they receive a new role PM:
BardielWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, XXXXX. You are
Bardiel
(Infected XXXXX/Traitor)
. You are a fungus-like creature that can infect mechanical systems, allowing you to mutate and take control of them.

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You have been recruited and are now aligned with the
Angels
. Your partners are ace5993, vollkan, Amrun, and ZeL1nK. They know that you are now a member of their faction, but you may not communicate with them privately.

Abilities

Infected Evangelion
- You are an Evangelion unit, but you have been infected and taken over by the Angel
Bardiel
. You keep the same abilities that you had prior to joining the
Angels
.

Safeclaim

You may use your original role PM as a safeclaim.

Win Condition

You win when all players other than those in your faction are dead and at least one member of your faction is alive, or when nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.


If a player is recruited and later dies, both their old role and new role are shown when they flip. Bardiel's role will be "Infected XXXXX/Traitor", where XXXXX is the player's previous role.


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Other Notes

If Ritsuko dies, Maya receives this new role PM:
Maya IbukiWelcome to
Neon Genesis Evangelion Mafia
, XXXXX. You are
Maya Ibuki
(Modified Enabler/Inventor)
. You are a computer technician at
Nerv
headquarters. You operate the primary control stations and provide support during battles. You serve directly under Dr. Akagi, whom you look up to and admire.

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You are aligned with
Nerv
.

Abilities

Backup
- You were the backup to Ritsuko Akagi, who previously held the
Program
ability. Ritsuko's previous night's targets were:
N1
-
Program (Protect/Enable Investigation)
- You have the ability to interact with and reprogram the Magi supercomputers that run
Nerv
headquarters. During night phases, you may attempt to target another player with this ability. If the targeted player received a role PM at the start of the game telling them that they are one of the Magi supercomputers, this ability will be successful, otherwise it will have no effect. If successful, any standard kill attempts that target the player that night will be prevented. In addition, that player will receive a one-shot investigative ability that can be used during any subsequent day phase. This ability will allow them to target another player during the day to find out if they are an
Angel
or not. You will not be informed whether your ability was successful or not. This ability will only work once each player capable of receiving this ability successfully.

Win Condition

You win when all threats to
Nerv
have been eliminated and at least one
Nerv
player is alive.

Game thread is here. Please confirm via PM.


If Maya dies after inheriting Ritsuko's role, both her original and new role will be shown upon her flip.


If Unit-01 uses its Day Kill ability, the following modscene will trigger:
EMERGENCY


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Hyuga:
Huge energy surge detected!
Misato:
What? Where?
Hyuga:
Unable to determine origin!
Misato:
Brace for impact!
*explosion rocks Central Dogma*

...



If the Angels are defeated at any point and the game has not ended, the following modscene will trigger:
Makoto:
I guess we're still at First Level alert.
Maya:
Why? Wasn't that the last Angel?
Aoba:
That's right. All the Angels have been destroyed.
Makoto:
Isn't there supposed to be peace now?

...

EMERGENCY


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Hyuga:
All the radar sites have gone dead!
Fuyutsuki:
It seems that man's ultimate enemy is also man.
Gendo:
Go to your battle stations!

The Angels have been defeated, but the final threat to humanity must still be dealt with...
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:07 pm

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Nice work Kdub. Fun game. My only issue is that I think it was a borked by how linked the roles were with the actual flavor.

GreyICE definitely MVP, I feel so carried.
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:08 pm

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Game Actions


Keel - malthusis
Kaworu - ace5993
Arael - vollkan
Leliel - Amrun
Ramiel - ZeL1nK
Shinji - Pomegranate
Rei - Timeater
Unit-00 - LobsterCatapult
Unit-01 - Kawaii
Unit-02 - GhostWriter
Unit-03 - populartajo
Melchior - Candle Jack
Balthasar - Lady Lambdadelta
Casper - Nocmen
Ritsuko - Kast
Maya - drewoftherushes
Kensuke - Starbuck
Kaji - GreyICE
Toji - Celebloki
Mari - Antifinity
Fuyutsuki - SpyreX
Hyuga - Bunnylover
Hikari - Iecerint


D1

vollkan uses Mind Rape on SpyreX

N1

Amrun roleblock/rolestops StevieT92
ZeL1nK uses self-watch (no result)
Kast enables Candle Jack
Pomegranate hides behind Iecerint
Starbuck tracks Pomegranate (unsuccessful)
populartajo blocks LobsterCatapult

D2

Angels recruit Candle Jack
Candle Jack investigates Nocmen (not an Angel)
vollkan uses Mind Probe on GreyICE

N2

vollkan kills Lady Lambdadelta
Amrun roleblock/rolestops StevieT92
ZeL1nK protects Candle Jack
Kast enables Pomegranate (unsuccessful)
Pomegranate hides behind vollkan
Starbuck tracks Kawaii (no result)

D3

vollkan uses Mind Rape on Kawaii

N3

ace5993 kills Kawaii
Amrun roleblock/rolestops StevieT92
GhostWriter protects GreyICE
Starbuck tracks Kast (Nocmen)
Kast enables Nocmen
populartajo blocks LobsterCatapult

D4

Nocmen investigates LobsterCatapult (not an Angel)

N4

ace5992 kills drewoftherushes
ZeL1nK roleblocks Kast
Amrun roleblock/rolestops StevieT92
LobsterCatapult protects GreyICE
Kast enables Amrun (blocked)
Starbuck tracks Amrun (StevieT92)

N5

ace5993 kills Starbuck (protected)
LobsterCatapult protects Starbuck (loses BP)
GhostWriter protects Starbuck
Starbuck tracks GhostWriter (Starbuck)

N6

ace5993 kills LobsterCatapult
LobsterCatapult protects Starbuck
Starbuck tracks Bunnylover (no result)

N7

ZeL1nK kills Starbuck
Starbuck tracks Nocmen (no result)
GhostWriter protects GreyICE
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:09 pm

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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:14 pm

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lol GreyIce carried this game hard.
SO VERY HARD.
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I do not attack the player of a post, but the post itself. I would appreciate it if you do the same.
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:21 pm

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I agree.

I can't help but wonder if Amrun's beginning banter about that one past game was an attempt to paint me as scum.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:22 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Amrun, you did ok.


Thanks, but I don't think I did. Of course, this game happened at a time of my life where mafia was an obligation, and I think it shows the most in this game. I am pretty ashamed of my performance here.

Se la vie.

Pom used her PR very well - Vollkan was the towniest of us.

p-edit:

It was a bit of a strategical play. I thought you might blow up about it and I'd come off looking better. I really don't hold a grudge towards you, though. I swear.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:43 pm

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I'm not sure whether to celebrate with town or just shake my head at the scum
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:45 pm

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Amrun wrote:p-edit:

It was a bit of a strategical play. I thought you might blow up about it and I'd come off looking better. I really don't hold a grudge towards you, though. I swear.


I don't find that to be a sportsmanlike thing to do.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:54 pm

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Amrun wrote:Pom used her PR very well - Vollkan was the towniest of us.


Which was why I targeted him-- I mainly wanted to confirm the town read I had on him, but I figured I might as wall breadcrumb it. And I have to say that I was mildly offended when GI put down my play in #1625, because I think I did pretty well in all.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:05 pm

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First time with a dayvig, and didn't even get to use it...

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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:05 pm

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Starbuck wrote:
Amrun wrote:p-edit:

It was a bit of a strategical play. I thought you might blow up about it and I'd come off looking better. I really don't hold a grudge towards you, though. I swear.


I don't find that to be a sportsmanlike thing to do.


I don't know why you still care about it, seriously. I apologize if it really bothered you, but I thought you might say something about it and have it serve as a distraction, not get actually upset.

I wanted to create noise over cults and nonsense and I achieved my purpose very well.


Pom, I agree with you. I think you did a good job as a hider, though you could have breadcrumbed your n1 target.
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:07 pm

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Pomegranate wrote:
Amrun wrote:Pom used her PR very well - Vollkan was the towniest of us.


Which was why I targeted him-- I mainly wanted to confirm the town read I had on him, but I figured I might as wall breadcrumb it. And I have to say that I was mildly offended when GI put down my play in #1625, because I think I did pretty well in all.

Meh, sorry, now that I know you used it, it's a lot better.

I wish you'd breadcrumbed the Iec target a bit better, but hey, it all worked out.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:14 pm

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I'm happy people thought I was relatively obvtown. I really didn't pay much attention all game.

I'm pretty happy with my play to the extent that I participated, though. My only BIG no-reservations /fail was with vollkan. I wonder how the game would've turned out if he hadn't been caught...
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:20 pm

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And Kast.

Sorry, Kast. :(
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:29 pm

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OK, first things first. A huge thank you goes out to Papa Zito for backing me up and handling vote counts for a couple weeks. Thanks also to my setup reviewers for giving me ideas and looking things over. Their suggestions definitely improved this game.

I knew when I was designing the game that it would be extremely swingy. That was just a consequence of the abilities I wanted to have in this setup. Considering that the town misused (IMO) a lot of their power roles, and that two town players got modkilled, yet the town still won easily, the setup appears to have been town-favored. That was what my gut feeling was when I started the game, but I also thought to myself that if the game actions went a certain way, the Angels could easily dominate. It's hard to say when we only have one particular iteration of the game that played out.

I did not anticipate the SK dying on D1. That certainly helped the town out. I was counting on him being sort of a neutralizing factor, since he needed to kill both the town and the Angels, but not either one too quickly or he would be in trouble. Pre-game, I was thinking the SK actually had a pretty good chance in this game. I think malthusis could have gotten out of his lynch (at least for a day), but he made a poor fakeclaim. Alas, it was not to be.

Regarding the recruitment, that was pretty much the sole reason I put a bastard warning on this game. Tar and Ludi expressed some disappointment over being recruited, so I had a lengthy discussion with them where I explained the recruitment process and acknowledged ways in which it could have been implemented better. Overall, it was a very productive discussion. Rather than go through it all again, I'll just copy and paste a message I sent them:
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First, a brief description of the recruiting process. The Angels have a one-shot recruit attempt that they can use during any day phase. They had to forfeit a night kill to use it. It would only work on certain characters, the Magi being among them. This is what happened to you at the very start of D2.

Balance-wise, recruitment is a huge swing in power. I knew this game would be very swingy, but I took steps to ensure that it was still balanced, and tried to reduce the swing as much as I could while still keeping the game elements I wanted to have. This is why, among other things, the recruit couldn't communicate with the rest of the Angels (they knew this would be the case because it was in the ability description), the flavor suggested that someone (likely the Magi) had been recruited, etc. Successfully recruiting someone was such a powerful gain for the Angels that I had to weaken it in many ways.

Also, breaking up the masons and turning them into neighbors needed to happen. Although I did put a bastard warning on this game (almost exclusively because of the recruitment mechanic), I never would allow the masons to continue to operate under the assumption that they could trust each other after the recruitment happened - that would have been lying to them, which is not something I think a mod should ever do unless he specifically says pre-game that he could (and even then, it's clearly in the territory of the mod having fun at the expense of the players). Since breaking up the masonry was such a huge swing in power from town to scum (in addition to the infighting and paranoia that the mason-to-neighbor transformation would have resulted in) and very difficult to balance depending on whether that happened or not, I made the decision to have the masons turn to neighbors regardless of the outcome of the recruit attempt, gave the Angels some incentives to use this ability, and balanced the rest of the game around the assumption that this event would happen.

I understand that you were frustrated because it appeared "obvious" that you had been recruited, which led to your inevitable death. That was done intentionally for balance reasons, as I described above. I did feel bad for you two getting recruited because you were one of the most pro-town players on D1 and were very much on the right track, but that fact, along with your recruitment, had a lot to do with the randomness of the role assignments. It was just bad luck that of all the players who could have been recruited, it happened to be you who got outed first. I want to thank both of you for being good sports about it, since I know there are other games that have had problems with recruits not playing to win after changing alignment.

Overall, aside from the fact that one of the most pro-town players was the one who got recruited (which is a possibility with any game involving recruitment), I'm reasonably satisfied with the way the recruitment mechanic actually played out. I was quite nervous about this game because it was an ability that could have easily been imbalanced. As it stands, despite being somewhat obvious scum, you managed to create a ton of havoc and confusion that contributed to at least one mislynch and diverted attention away from the rest of the Angels, who otherwise might have been under much more heat.

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OK, now for the embarrassing secret that people won't find out about until postgame. The Angels' recruitment would have succeeded on either Magi (who would have become Ireul) or on Eva units (who would have become Bardiel). Regardless of the outcome of the recruit attempt, the Magi would have been turned into neighbors, the exact same modscene would have been posted...but all the Magi still would have been town and there may have been a recruit remaining safely hidden, with their original powers. Yeah, definitely not the situation I had envisioned. Luckily, this will not be an issue the way the game actually played out. But if I could go back and redesign a part of the game, I would have changed the modscene and maybe sent a warning message to certain players that suggested the possibility that an Eva unit had been recruited instead. I really did not expect players to pay as much attention to the flavor as they did, but I see that it clearly funneled their suspicions toward the Magi and not enough toward other potential recruitable roles. I also did not forsee the Angels using Kast's perceived scumminess with some clever timing to make it look like he was the one who recruited you. Oh well, it's a learning experience for me, and I'll keep it in mind if I decide to use similar mechanics again.


The other major issue I feel that I need to address is the two modkills. I really hate modkills because it messes with the game balance. I am of the opinion that modkills are an ultra-extreme measure that should only be used if there are no better alternatives. I think with tajo, there was no way to avoid it. The only alternative would have been to force-replace everybody who saw his PM, which was over half of the remaining playerlist at the time. PZ and I decided to let him maintain his win condition in spite of what I said in the rules because it was an honest mistake instead of a deliberate offense worthy of a modkill, which is what I had in mind when I posted that rule. With Kast, it was a bit more debatable. I would have had to force replace only three players to avoid having to modkill, which certainly would have been disruptive, but perhaps not ridiculously so compared to the tajo situation. Ultimately, I felt that because two other spots were in need of replacement already, and the fact that I had already set a precedent with tajo, I had to modkill Kast as well. In retrospect, I do not think I should have allowed tajo to keep his win condition. I may have been giving him a break for what was very clearly an honest, non-malicious error, but in doing so, I set a bad precedent. Would Kast have made the same mistake if I hadn't given tajo a break? I don't know, but I'd like to think there was at least a chance he would have been more careful. I would have felt bad if the town had lost because of the two modkills. In fact, Kast's modkill may have actually helped the town because he was a potential mislynch. I wish we would have had the chance to see how things would have played out.

Regarding the actual game, I think the town very clearly outplayed the scum. None of the scum, save for vollkan a bit on D1, looked particularly townie. I also think the Angels used Amrun's ability poorly after N1, when it should have been one of their most powerful abilities. Blocking Stevie on N1 was reasonable since he had softclaimed a PR, but after he fullclaimed, it was a mistake to continue targeting him. vollkan using the Angel's strongest safeclaim (Asuka) when he was almost certainly going to be lynched was a mistake as well. The town didn't always make great action choices either (I thought for sure GW would get lynched for not protecting Starbuck on N7), but they were good enough. Pom made good use of her power, and I'm not sure Amrun gets targeted by Starbuck if not for her looking scummy during the day. GreyICE was pretty far off in the early parts of the game, but by the end, he was able to put things together and lead the town to victory.

If I could go back and change things about the setup, I probably would have changed the recruitment mechanics somewhat. There are a lot of ways I could have handled it, but I'm thinking that having more of a standard traitor mechanic (making all the Magi neighbors from the start) might have been better. Alternatively, I could have made one of the Eva units a recruitable traitor and still started the Magi as neighbors. Too much of the town's power was concentrated in the masonry and the associated support role (Ritsuko/Maya), and weakening them by breaking them up via recruitment and role change was a bit too swingy. I probably would have weakened Ritsuko's power slightly by making the Magi's investigation a night action instead of a day action. I think I also would have given the Angels an additional power. Flavor-wise, I think the scum were all given reasonably strong (on average) safeclaims. They had to come up with their own fake abilities, but I think that is a part of skillful scum play.

At the end of the day, I think that the team that played the best was the team that won the game. To me, that means that despite a lot of the improvements that I could have made in the setup, it was at least a successful game, and I hope people had fun. I mentioned this to Tar and Ludi when I was talking with them about the game, but I'll say it here in public: I want to run this game again. Not this exact setup, and maybe not even a setup close to this one, but an NGE-themed game. It won't happen for a while (maybe when 3.0 comes out?), but my reasons for wanting to do so are threefold. First, I learned a lot from designing and running this game, and although I am OK with how it ended up, I know that there are a lot of things that could have been done better. I look at this game and I see that it could have potentially been epic if a few things were tweaked. Second, I think the source material allows for a lot of different possible role combinations. Just consider how many Angels there are that I didn't use in this setup, as well as alternative possibilities for a lot of the Nerv roles. Seele could have been an entire separate faction. There are just so many ways to create interesting setups. Finally, this game was the most fun I've had designing a setup. The possibilities were just flying through my mind when I started laying out what kinds of things I could put in the game. I don't think I could say the same for other themes, as interesting as they may be. Like I said, it won't happen for a while, but it will be in the back of my mind.

If there are any additional questions or comments, feel free to share them. I treat every postgame as an opportunity to improve myself both as a setup designer and moderator so that I can design fun and interesting setups in the future.
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:36 pm

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That reminds me, time to change my avatar back.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:56 pm

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Well played GI. I mean no disrespect, but maaan I wish all the games were this GI.

All in all considering the shenanigans I felt like I was on the right track and watching scum just eat it over and over was awesome. Good game all.
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