Open 357: Scumhunter's Speed 8P

[Whiskers]

Juls, do you have any reason for any of your reads?
Trevor, do you have any reason for any of your reads?
kondi, do you have any reason for any of your reads?

Where the hell is Guy_Named_Riggs?

[projectmatt]

Juls, you didn't answer me. I'm not sure how to answer you. Your question now is "What do you think about Trevor's reactions?". I don't know what to make of them so I'm asking more.

[kondi2424]

@Whiskers: That's a stupid question. Yes.

[Trevor]

@Whiskers: That's a stupid question. Yes.

No, they are completely random. (sarcasm)

[projectmatt]

@Whiskers: That's a stupid question. Yes.

No, they are completely random. (sarcasm)

Then

tell

us the reasons.

[Whiskers]

@Whiskers: That's a stupid question. Yes.

No, they are completely random. (sarcasm)

Then

tell

us the reasons.

[Trevor]

pmatt/glass/juls for the way you attacked me.

whiskers for your reaction to the initial bw and just vibes from your posts.

[kondi2424]

So... we lynch me, scum kills kondi?

LOL, I love your subliminal messaging.

Uh, yeah? For example, GNR will go straight to the bottom.

*Of mine

[preedit]
Trevor, You think I'm a really bad player, and I'm scum?
Why?

I want to lynch you today, hence you being at the bottom of the list.

Vote: whiskers

zmuffin and kondi have towntold, Juls and GNR are more of a toss-up. Glass is scum, whiskers is scum.

@pmatt, 111582

Glass has taken my refusal to RVS and over-exaggerated it into a scumtell. The only RVS I have posted was when I was scum. That was also a month ago, did it occur to you that I could have changed my theory about RVSing?

The list wasn't a list of "not-lynch to do-lynch," it was a list of "best-player to worst-player". So, why do you think I am the "least likely to play well"?

It is my belief that alignment doesn't affect ability.

I just explained in my last post that I misworded my question. Nice misrep.

@projectmatt: I actually do think Whiskers is scum at this point

Why Whiskers mafia? Also why did you decide to make everyone re-do the list when you were in the list of least liked people?

Whiskers mafia: Post 66 is full of questions that could have been easily answered if she actually would have read my post. In Post 76, she happens to apparently not read my most recent post, where I stated to have used bad choice of words in my question. And, in Post 84, she obviously

knows

I'm scum, but she hasn't laid down a vote yet. Not bad for a Page 4 suspicion, especially in a game like this.

You say that, it makes me want to hammer you.

Although, if you're town, scum has to kill a scum.

If you're scum, scum gets to kill a best townie.

Please note that I would be the first to go, were I scum.

I almost got lynched, and I'll likely almost get lynched again.

Scum will leave me around for a mislynch, but will kill me first for being "a bad player."

Whether or not you are really scum, I'm glad we scumhunted and didn't just play "Wisdom of the Crowds."

Kondi wanted to lynch based on who he didn't like-- me.

Trevor wanted to lynch based on avatar.

When Trevor flips scum, I wonder if his partners will kill Kondi or leave kondi and hope the towncredit Trevor is trying to give him is successful.

I'm convinced that you're scum, and will stop correcting you on the

bolded

as I'm pretty sure it's blatantly misrepping me now.
The WIFOM in the

italicized

parts is noted.
As for the

underlined

, if Trevor is scum, any towncred he tries to give would be ignored, as he would be scum.

[Whiskers]

So... we lynch me, scum kills kondi?

LOL, I love your subliminal messaging.

Uh, yeah? For example, GNR will go straight to the bottom.

*Of mine

[preedit]
Trevor, You think I'm a really bad player, and I'm scum?
Why?

I want to lynch you today, hence you being at the bottom of the list.

Vote: whiskers

zmuffin and kondi have towntold, Juls and GNR are more of a toss-up. Glass is scum, whiskers is scum.

@pmatt, 111582

Glass has taken my refusal to RVS and over-exaggerated it into a scumtell. The only RVS I have posted was when I was scum. That was also a month ago, did it occur to you that I could have changed my theory about RVSing?

The list wasn't a list of "not-lynch to do-lynch," it was a list of "best-player to worst-player". So, why do you think I am the "least likely to play well"?

It is my belief that alignment doesn't affect ability.

I just explained in my last post that I misworded my question. Nice misrep.

This as an attack on Trevor, not on you. I didn't misrep you, nor did I misrep him. Also, this was in reference to the second question, which

was

, in fact, as list of best to worst player. Exactly, it was "Who do you think it the most likely to play well to the least likely to play well?"
Trevor gave his list. His list was not answering the question, instead, it was a list of, "Who do I want to lynch? Least to most."
I did not misrep either of you.

@projectmatt: I actually do think Whiskers is scum at this point

Why Whiskers mafia? Also why did you decide to make everyone re-do the list when you were in the list of least liked people?

Whiskers mafia: Post 66 is full of questions that could have been easily answered if she actually would have read my post. In Post 76, she happens to apparently not read my most recent post, where I stated to have used bad choice of words in my question. And, in Post 84, she obviously

knows

I'm scum, but she hasn't laid down a vote yet. Not bad for a Page 4 suspicion, especially in a game like this.

I did read it. I also said I didn't understand it. Then, after you attacked me personally some more, I went back and quoted and dissected that post, and still didn't understand. You never clarified, you never tried to explain, you just said, "If you would have read, you'd get it." Well, I read. I don't get it. I'm under the impression I'm heavily brain-damaged, and I'm probably off soiling myself as you read this, but I still don't know what the hell you were attacking me for. I certainly can't defend myself against it. Since you won't explain to me what your accusation was, I defend myself against the only other thing I can find-- You decided you don't like me.
It's a little neat how you tried to disguise it with, "Let's all pick what players we like the least!" and make it a Wisdom of the Crowds-policy lynch. Didn't work, did it, Kondi?
Explain what your case on me is. Stop avoiding doing so. I don't understand. Stop trying to refer me to posts and explain.

You say that, it makes me want to hammer you.

Although, if you're town, scum has to kill a scum.

If you're scum, scum gets to kill a best townie.

Please note that I would be the first to go, were I scum.

I almost got lynched, and I'll likely almost get lynched again.

Scum will leave me around for a mislynch, but will kill me first for being "a bad player."

Whether or not you are really scum, I'm glad we scumhunted and didn't just play "Wisdom of the Crowds."

Kondi wanted to lynch based on who he didn't like-- me.

Trevor wanted to lynch based on avatar.

When Trevor flips scum, I wonder if his partners will kill Kondi or leave kondi and hope the towncredit Trevor is trying to give him is successful.

I'm convinced that you're scum, and will stop correcting you on the

bolded

as I'm pretty sure it's blatantly misrepping me now.
The WIFOM in the

italicized

parts is noted.
As for the

underlined

, if Trevor is scum, any towncred he tries to give would be ignored, as he would be scum.

Again, Wisdom of the crowds. I use that as your only attack against me because I don't understand your other ones and you refuse to explain them. I'm not misrepping you in any way. If you think I am, prove it.
the italicized parts

are

wifom, that is correct.
I explained the bolded parts-- also wifom, as it turns out.

[zMuffinMan]

You know what, I seriously want to lynch matt now. Completely ignoring me!

Is it just because matt is ignoring you, or is there anything else?

What did you think of his "there's 2 scum" supposed town-slip?

And does this mean you think Trevor is town?

Where the hell is Guy_Named_Riggs?

Kind of off-topic, but something I've never noticed before in activity overview is it has a V/LA column (and apparently he's V/LA until the 16th).

[Juls]

Why do you care if someone hammers?

His wording looked like a fake attempt at being a cautious townie. Again, why so you care if he is hammered Matt?

Matt, I did think you were scum who was feigning concern about lynching someone. There is no claim to wait for so it came off as fake. And I did miss your response to me, for that I apologize.

However, Whiskers, I know you are rather new and all but defending someone who you don't know is town is very problematic.
1) You could be scum buddying up to someone who is town in order to appear town to that person (who you would conveniently leave alive for tomorrow)
or
2) You could be town giving scum a free pass to not answer a question, or providing them with an answer they may not came up with otherwise.

Either way it stinks. Unless PM is confirmed town you absolutely do not defend him and I didn't see the mod come out and say that did you?

And when did I say I didn't want a quickhammer? I am fine with people hammering and have said as much. My problem with Matt was that I thought it was a hammer and that he was coming in here acting all super-concerned townie who was going to say "oops, I didn't know I was the hammer...sorry guys". But even when it wasn't a hammer, the "super-concerned townie" play still seemed off. And to answer your previous question about me paying attention. I knew it was 4 votes but for some reason I was thinking it was 4 to lynch.

Also, my reasons for my trevor scum read are simple...where has he hunted for scum? Quote one post. If you can do that I will remove my vote from him. Also, someone pointed it out but I didn't like the way he POE'd Muffin into a town read on page 4.

@muffin, Matt ignoring me (which I guess he didn't and I missed his post) and his feigning concern over hammering matt are the two things that bothered me. My vote was to make him answer me. I still prefer a trevor lynch.

Unvote, Vote: Trevor

(with apologies to matt who did answer my question)

[Glass]

kondi is absolutely town. Not to be touched tomorrow if she survives the night.

^This for sure.

It's time to hammer, whiskers/kondi.

@PM
Why do you put someone at L-1 and then start screaming "omg for the love of god dont hammer", if you really were concerned about a hammer why would you put someone at L-1 to begin with? You easily could have withheld your vote.

[Juls]

Kondi is really starting to scare me now that I said that. I'm very confused right now.

[Whiskers]

Glass makes a point I understand. (the same question that Juls asks, but now I get it.)

Kondi, Trevor, explain your cases on me. You may refer to specific posts, but you must reword the information, or provide new information. Until you do, You both have rvs/policy votes on me.

[Trevor]

See you at the dead qt Whiskers.

[Whiskers]

Why would scum waste it's kill on me? Wouldn't it kill a nice, accurate townie? I'm surely [personal attack about intelligence], so I would be a hell of a waste of a kill.

[Trevor]

Why would scum waste it's kill on me? Wouldn't it kill a nice, accurate townie? I'm surely [personal attack about intelligence], so I would be a hell of a waste of a kill.

I got hammered, you can stop with the bs now.

[Whiskers]

When did you get hammered? Juls unvoted you. Nopony else voted. Then Juls unvotes Matt and revoted you. You should be at L-1. Nonetheless, I'm not mafia. You are, but I am not.

[BBmolla]

Votecount 1.02

Whiskers - 2 - kondi2424, Trevor
Trevor - 4 - Glass, Juls, zMuffinMan, projectmatt

Not Voting: Whiskers, Guy_Named_Riggs,

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadine: (expired on 2011-11-16 17:00:00)

And yes, apparently GNR is V/LA till the 16th.

[Trevor]

Yeah

Vote: Glass

. Starting to doubt the whiskers lynch more than the Glass lynch.

[Whiskers]

Why? Glass is fine.

Besides, you never gave me a reason for your vote/attack for me.

If your next post doesn't have one, I'll hammer you.

[Trevor]

go ahead, I'm bored of stalling the inevitable.

[Trevor]

Whiskers/glass/pmatt/juls

[projectmatt]

I put Trevor at L-1 to put maximum pressure on him to see his reaction. I didn't want his lynch yet.

To be honest, I'm having some doubts about Trevor being scum. His latest posts give a "I don't care, this game is dumb anyway" vibe that sort of me make me think he might be town. Feel like Whiskers might be town as well after his\her latest few posts.

[Juls]

I could go for a glass lynch