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Post Post #2 (isolation #0) » Sun Dec 15, 2002 11:07 am

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I think that jeep must have invited all the late confirmers to another one of his
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Post Post #6 (isolation #1) » Wed Dec 18, 2002 7:44 am

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One! Just me.

Oh... wait. I just watched insomnia. Pretty good movie... Any cops that aren't dead want to admit they killed the Accountant? I'll make a deal...

I'm just kidding. Probably 3. Let's get 'em.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #2) » Wed Dec 18, 2002 1:43 pm

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Yeah, it means they got lucky... unless they have an investigator of their own (unlikely) and that person picked the cop (more unlikely) and the mafia were told this result before the end of the night (even more unlikely) so that they could kill the cop on purpose.

Mafia got lucky, but it happens. We just have to saddle up and figure this out on our own.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #3) » Thu Dec 19, 2002 7:12 pm

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I believe querictron. You're all munchkins for doubting him. (Of course, I expect querci to look at this post with suspiscion. I wouldn't hope for anything less!)

Anyway, I'm out for a week. Don't lynch me for being quiet. :wink:
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Post Post #73 (isolation #4) » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:34 am

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??? What an odd comment from Matthew...

I have returned. And I recognize the laundry attendant from previous minor investigative town roles from minigames. I think jeep may have even been in charge of that one. But we also have townies.

I wouldn't feel bad about lynching medicated lain, she didn't say much. Of course, you are all still bloodthirsty monkeys. Let's shape up, eh?

FOS: MatthewV
for not paying attention to the little night posts. I've always wondered what else people who don't read everything skim through... including the important parts.
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Post Post #89 (isolation #5) » Thu Jan 09, 2003 3:11 am

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I think it rather likely that jadesmar was investigated the first night by the mafia, and thus killed the second night. But if this is the case, the only thing we know is that the mafia can investigate.

Another thing we may want to look into is the fact that a good number of the players in this game are new to the board. An all 'newbie' mafia may have made a 'mistake' in picking their target. Who was jadesmar bothering on day 1? I will look into this and post again.

On another note, it was a gutsy, but correct move for quercitron to come forward and claim townie in a jeep minigame. jeep's last minigame didn't have townies, and being a townie myself (I know... not quite as believable :) ), I trust him completely.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #6) » Thu Jan 09, 2003 3:16 am

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jadesmar didn't say a thing. harumph. It's possible the mafia wanted to kill a quiet one, but that makes little sense to me. See my previous post for most likely occurences. Werebear is probably innocent too, because IS was given the opportunity to re-replace him, and didn't take it. This spells boring role to me.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:37 am

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There's very little to go on in the early days of these online games. You gotta use everything you can get.

vote: MatthewV
because he's the most 'experienced' player who's not on my innocent list, and I don't feel like picking on the young'uns.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #8) » Fri Jan 10, 2003 10:15 am

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confirm vote: MatthewV


I hate to do things like this, but he clearly does not have the time to meaningfully contribute to our little discussion. During night 2, he made a post that displayed clearly that he hadn't read the previous few posts. Furthermore, this week has involved 2 posts:

#1
just coming in this night to say im back...came back late...skool tomarrow...eeek...havent even read everything :P
MatthewV


#2
Something unexpected came up...cant log onto the internet from my house grrrrr
should be back in order friday...


Now, while I can appreciate that things do come up, he should be able to at least post something relevant to the game once a week. I simply would like to see more contribution from everyone, and this vote stands until this game picks up.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:37 am

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So, who's guilty? ahhhhh. Allright, time to get medieval.

My quick check of the post history shows everyone has posted since Thursday, but BOO at the town.

I think Sugar, Nyarlathotep and Lystrodom are Mafia. That's the prediction for today. Why? They are the least innocent in my mind. Not enough to vote for any of them, but ifI could investigate, that's who I would pick.
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Post Post #108 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 13, 2003 10:49 am

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If anything, quercitron's claim is believable because jeep's last minigame didn't have any regular townies. Thus, to come out and claim townie, when there was a very good chance that the laundry attendant was a sure sign that we were going to have another "profession mafia", is a clever ploy. I am rather asurred of q's innocence.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 14, 2003 3:17 am

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But you must wonder whether a mafia member would go out of his way to challenge a townie claim. He probably isn't a townie, but I doubt he is mafia either.

On a side note, that was the type of insightful analysis I was looking for.
unvote: MatthewV


Moving on: innocent people attack their accusers, while guilty people attack the evidence (or in this case, lack thereof).
vote: Nyarlahotep
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Post Post #118 (isolation #12) » Wed Jan 15, 2003 3:28 am

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I have first day suspiscions of nyarlahotep. And here is my likely innocent list:

quercitron
mathcam
CS (duh...)
Werebear

less innocent:

MatthewV
Beaudoin

downright suspiscious:

nyarlahotep
Lystrodom
Sugar

Take this as you will. I've got a feeling for these ones, that's all. But I have tried to show you why I think nyar is guilty.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 16, 2003 3:32 am

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I'm here, and watcing this little exchange very carefully. If nyarlahotep gets lynched and turns out to be innocent, I blame the non-voters. If someone comes in to vote at the last minute, I will be very suspiscious of them.

jeep
, what happens with say, a 3-3 vote tie at the deadline?
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Post Post #132 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:56 am

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I actually meant voting for you, mathcam; but yes, it is amusing. 5 minutes to the deadline!
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Post Post #134 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:19 am

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What do you mean: night?!?! What was he?!

[jeep]Patience... it takes a little while to write the story (I was busy last night). I didn't want any more posting going on... ;) [/jeep]
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Post Post #136 (isolation #16) » Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:55 am

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I'm alive! Being very arrogant, I'm going to assume that the doctor(s) protected me, and the foolish mafia tried to off me. Now, let's see what mikegoo knows about his former self, who I also found suspiscious.

vote: mikegoo
because I was going to vote for lystrodom next.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #17) » Mon Jan 20, 2003 9:02 am

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Of course, if this is the case, I am extremely grateful to the clever doctor(s) who saved me. You know who you are!
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Post Post #142 (isolation #18) » Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:13 am

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mathcam, I can't help but hope you just read the dead list wrong. In 2 of those cases of "mafia" deaths, it was the mafia who performed the kills, not who died. Nyarlahotep is the only dead mafia, and may I remind you that I found him?

I assure you our cop, if s/he hasn't investigated me yet, will do so soon. There is no need to become all suspiscious when someone actually suggests we lynch a mafia.

Well, we do know we have a doctor, so if there is a cop, maybe they should come out... Or maybe not. It's normal not to come out unless they catch someone. Say, the cop comes out and says quercitron and cuban smoker are innocent. I go whoop de doo. And then one of us dies the next night. Odds of cop dying soon are small.

Of course, if the cop does have a mafia, by all means, expose yourself. Point, and we will follow.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #19) » Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:34 am

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Well it made sense to me... cuban smoker suggests we kill nyarlahotep on a "whim", turns out mafia. I suspect my list is sniffing too close. Does anyone ELSE think they were saved? Now, everyone VOTE!
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Post Post #151 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 22, 2003 3:42 am

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Have those people voting for mathcam not considered that he seems to ACTUALLY have not noticed that there was only 1 mafia dead? I mean, read his posts carefully, and then try and decide whether you (or anyone) is clever enough to write that convincingly about being a, well... idiot (no offense intended, mathcam). I mean, if mathcam truly was mafia, think about the lies that are spinning through his posts! This is not normal "I'm a townie" posting. You can tell when someone really is a townie.

May we reconsult the original list:

INNOCENT: quercitron (99% sure townie), mathcam (98% sure innocent), CS (100% townie), Werebear (I forget why... but I had a ok reason).

NOT INNOCENT: MatthewV, Beaudoin, mikegoo, Sugar.

Now, sugar seems content to follow the list, which depending on how this next lynch goes, whoever it may be, could tell a lot. Of course, being on the bandwagon of both your mafia buddies would make you look quite innocent, yes?

mikegoo, please convince us of your innocence, for I truly do not want to lynch a townie, but you are going to be next quite soon!

Matthew, it is true that boring roles are more likely to get replaced, but it is definetly not the rule. As well, Lystrodom complained of his IE not working. This is something that could happen to both mafia and townie alike.

So I plead again, mikegoo, defend yourself before the final vote is cast!
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Post Post #154 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 22, 2003 9:17 am

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I too am less suspsiscious of Sugar than I used to be. She has been playing the good townie, and voting for the right people, I think.

That leaves mikegoo, Beaudoin and MatthewV. We should lynch them all in some order, and we should win this game. Of course, things may change, come new information.
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Post Post #161 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 23, 2003 3:15 am

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I am unimpressed with mikegoo, but I say we whack Beaudoin. He's apparently lurking, and I've had bad feelings for quite sometime, given his limited posting.

unvote: mikegoo

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Post Post #163 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 23, 2003 7:20 am

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mikegoo, I am tending to agree with you now. Lystrodom gave us very little to work with, so was only on my "list" because he wasn't cleared. Unfortunately, the cleared list is getting smaller. Your reaction to your almost lynching is, in my opinion, about as townie as they get.

As well, when I said I was unimpressed, I was referring to the joint playership that you have taken over. Nothing personal was meant.

Finally, I think that the players are following my "list" because there has been very little else to go on. This game has been laggy, and I decided to spruce it up. Enter: the list.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #24) » Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:28 am

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I say we lynch 'im now! Worst part is, he might be innocent. Wouldn't his mafia buddies be poking him right now?
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Post Post #172 (isolation #25) » Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:32 am

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But we can't let that cloud our judgement! Beaudoin, defend yourself as I burn your effigy!
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Post Post #175 (isolation #26) » Fri Jan 24, 2003 7:15 am

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My vote stays.
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Post Post #179 (isolation #27) » Fri Jan 24, 2003 10:54 am

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*bing* *bing* *bing* :!:
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Post Post #183 (isolation #28) » Mon Jan 27, 2003 5:58 pm

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Now would be a great time for a cop (assuming they're not all dead...) to come forward and tell us who is innocent, and who is not. Any volunteers? No...?

vote: MatthewV
He's the most suspiscious person among us, I think we can all agree.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #29) » Tue Jan 28, 2003 10:05 am

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Indeed, I have very little besides the metagame reason. Werebear could very well be guitly. Hmmm... I missed Matthew fingering Beaudoin. This could be important.

unvote: MatthewV


I think I want to hear from all of our players... Hmm...

The doctor shouldn't come out with only one innocent, especially because I think its me!

Let's see, who's left... This is not cool, I only think mathcam and Sugar are purely innocent. mikegoo reacted properly to his accusations, Werebear has...

nothing besides the metagame reason. Perhaps IS was not concerned about leaving his "newbie" mafia partners behind.

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Post Post #196 (isolation #30) » Thu Jan 30, 2003 4:43 am

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Argh! I've been deflated... Assuming that Werebar speaks the truth, I was not protected... My inflamed ego is bruised...

unvote: Werebear


Critical information has been gained by those not voting to kill Werebear when they had the chance. MatthewV is looking cleaner and cleaner, and we have very little against sugar. I love this game that likens itself to a crap shoot.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 31, 2003 5:15 am

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I can understand why you guys are getting suspiscious, but I also know why none of you have voted for me. I didn't play the first day, because I was on vacation, and since I have returned, 2 mafia have died, and 0 innocents have been lynched. Only a mean, psychotic and reckless mafia player would finger 2 mafia for you in a row. What if there still was a cop? How screwed would the mafia have been? I have demonstrated a few times that I still believed there was a cop. Why? Because I always assume there is a cop. I didn't really care that there were 2 dead.

I was the first, and basically only person to believe quercitron's townie claim off the bat. Why? Because I was a townie too! Why else? Jeep's last minigame didn't
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Next: I truly believed that I was protected. Over night, I figured I was going to die. No death: cs protected. Who got protected that night? Sugar and mathcam? Explain motives for me wanting to off those two...

For those pragmatists, look at it this way. Maybe I am the most gambitist mafia player around. If so, no one would feel bad if they lost. I took a risk that is almost undefeatable. Only a cop could really know. OR... I am a townie who seems to have an uncanny knack for finding the bad guys. Shall we lynch one of our advantages?

I'm going to try something. I'm going to check the list of people who reacted poorly to quercitron's townie claim. Perhaps our answer lies there.
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Post Post #207 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 31, 2003 5:20 am

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So. We know quercitron is a townie. And on page 1 he claimed townie. Lystrodom, now mikegoo, and MatthewV both expressed serious doubt towards his claim. I suspect that one/both may not be townies...
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Post Post #212 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 31, 2003 8:16 am

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What if the mafia choose to target you anyway? Or choose not to kill? Then we have nothing, except you think that someone is a citizen, who may very well be the mafia, and our "hex" doctor can no longer protect you. Repeat today, except that now you die at night! No more hex doctor, no more normal doctor, and 5 people survive into the next day (which is 2 days from now). No information gained... And bye bye doctors.

I suppose this isn't horrible... Allright, I am tending to agree with your plan. Werebear, I suggest you protect mathcam with something like 75% chance, and save your protection otherwise. mathcam, you can protect anyone you please.

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Post Post #219 (isolation #34) » Sat Feb 01, 2003 5:13 am

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vote: No Lynch
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Post Post #234 (isolation #35) » Thu Feb 06, 2003 5:36 pm

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Hello. I have intermintent internet access right now, sometimes its hard to get online.

Before I go any further, if there are any other people who would like to claim a role, now would be a great time. Otherwise, we have 3 townies, and an expired doc hex.

Ok. I believe Werebear is a doctor of some kind. No guarantee he isn't an evil doctor though. mikegoo is most suspiscious to me as well, but Sugar only has her voting record going for her. Beaudoin demonstrated quite clearly that voting for a mafia is easy to do as a mafia...

Either way, we should talk some today to get all the ideas out, but no lynch is a better way to go.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #36) » Fri Feb 07, 2003 2:39 pm

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vote: No Lynch
Let's see what the new day brings. Who is going to die... ?
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Post Post #246 (isolation #37) » Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:51 am

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Good luck boys and girls. Oy. I'm glad I'm dead.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #38) » Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:24 am

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My list did good. On day 2, 2/3 of my downright suspiscious list turned out to be mafia, and 1/2 of my somewhat list was mafia. 0/4 of my innocents were mafia.

A good game... I would not have known who to vote for. Congrats Sugar. Too bad the rest of the town (mathcam! ;) ) convinced me that you were innocent...
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Post Post #275 (isolation #39) » Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:08 am

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Yes, it was a good game jeep. Your doc sext ruined our plan though... Hmm... IS would never approve of the no lynches we went through. Well played all.

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