NY 151: Playground Mafia (Game Over-Mafia Win!)

[drmyshotgun]

You guys post a lot, this better be worth reading.

Don't read my posts.

[Junpei]

jun, why are you being so quiet this game?

Because I have so much going on in my life and I'm in too many games. Also this isn't exactly a playerlist known for understanding succinct and graceful ways to get their points across. I just need to find time to do so.

pedit: Seriously?

[Antihero]

jun, why are you being so quiet this game?

Because I have so much going on in my life and I'm in too many games. Also this isn't exactly a playerlist known for understanding succinct and graceful ways to get their points across. I just need to find time to do so.

pedit: Seriously?

Hey, succinct and graceful is my middle name(s).

P.S. - I would actually take shotty 2's advice here.

[Maxous]

Head A of rack has been proven to respond to voting pressure. We can revisit Pine later.

Or we can visit Pine now.
Are you under the impression rack won't answer anything unless there is a bandwagon on him?

Speaking of which,
@Pine: I actually do want to know why you think scooby deserves pressure of you have no read of him.

antihero looks a lot better than ccv.

In what way?
And you should know better than this. If rack is scum it would make a lot of sense for partners to vote him early considering what happened in pre-game.

That being said yeah, FS' statement that psyche vote specifically looks like a bus is what? And the explanation for it has'nt been satisfactory.

[Maxous]

whoops,
*pressure when you have

[rack]

You guys post a lot, this better be worth reading.

Don't read my posts.

If you're going to be useless, replace out.




(Hi, Head A here, playing the role of either pot or kettle. Your choice.)


I'm not sure that Head B is coming back. We'll see.

[DeasVail]

Out of all the things you could say, why so something useless that you know to be hypocritical instead of soemthing else?

[drmyshotgun]

You guys post a lot, this better be worth reading.

Don't read my posts.

If you're going to be useless, replace out.




(Hi, Head A here, playing the role of either pot or kettle. Your choice.)


I'm not sure that Head B is coming back. We'll see.

I'm confirmed Town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You guys post a lot, this better be worth reading.

Don't read my posts.

If you're going to be useless, replace out.




(Hi, Head A here, playing the role of either pot or kettle. Your choice.)


I'm not sure that Head B is coming back. We'll see.

I'm confirmed Town.

You have two options.

If you are confirmed town as you say, replace out. You yourself admit that people shouldn't read your posts. If you're town, you'll replace out and allow someone competent to take your slot and use it.

If you don't replace out, I'll have to act under the assumption that your claim was solely for the purpose of looking town, and that you might not be town.

So your choice, replace out or die. Either way, you're useless while you're here.

[Maxous]

Out of all the things you could say, why so something useless that you know to be hypocritical instead of soemthing else?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Out of all the things you could say, why so something useless that you know to be hypocritical instead of soemthing else?

I sure hope you aren't talking to me here.

[Pine]

@Maxous: Anyone who isn't providing anything solid deserves pressure, until they do so.

@KK: How in the hell can you call Rack's responses "responding well to pressure"?

[Macros]

Just discovered the display posts by user feature, boy that is handy!

Still not so keen on Benmage but I'll be willing to switch to Pine or Rack upon further re-reading.

Also going to look at redff's posts again just for the sheer agressoin directed at CCV

[Macros]

cross post, Rack's response to pressure seems to have been
"hrmm, I hope B gets here soon"
"Still can't get B"
"I think B got swallowed by a black hole"

5 total posts which amount to even less than my own, admittedly, poor contribution. As far as I can see (but I'll go check again) he hasn't responded to anything with anything other than vague gesticulations in his absent heads directions.
Rack, step up please and post sometihng

[Pine]

^These are scumposts. Check out his ISO. Coasting on some early contribution, now cheerleading leading wagons.

Unvote
Vote: Macros

[Macros]

I really need to take notes when I glance through on my phone during the day, I recall thinking that KK was pushing for firestarter or rack because they were the two leading candidates as if he was trying to draw attention of someone, but the votes counts doesn't show me anything likely. I'll have to go back and actually find where he was posting.

Pine, coasting, as you call it, I call the weekend

[Maxous]

Out of all the things you could say, why so something useless that you know to be hypocritical instead of soemthing else?

sorry my phone is awkward for this. deas, he is probably scum. he knows he is in trouble, mastin highlighted it iirc, and his response is to basically troll.
it is sum keeping his mouth shut as to not harm the rest of His team.
even if he does'nt want to give strong reads without consulting his partner he would at least explain what he wrote previously which many have asked for

vote:rack[\b]

p-edit: lol no that was'nt directed at you lld, I just messed the post somehow. I was responding to deas.

I see pine and macros posted but I need to wait until I get home.

[Macros]

I think that's Rack back on 8, I'm unwilling to put him up to 9 as I'm heading to my bed now.

I'm keeping my vote on Benmage.
Now I know I have many faults as a player and my biggest is definately tunnel vision when I decide I tihnk someone is susupicious I will look at all their posts in the worst way possible and despite my best efforts it's a habit I've never been able to kick.

I look a KK's posts and even though I see nothing overtly untoward I still keep thinking there's something up, I'd guess I have the worst "bump or trouble" in history.

Back to why I'm staying with Benmage.
Sure he had plenty of posts before the vote landed on him, but there wasn't exactly much content in them, a lot of lists and on liners, sure bitches love lists, but I felt they added nothing whilst looking pro active.
His response to the vote was to call the person voting for him retarded and then continued to extol his virtues as a paragon of mafia players which I never like and just reeks of someone trying to lead the game, he realises no-one is following me to vote for him then his posting drops off again.
Its not much, not great but its what I see, make of it what you will

[The Mini-Librarian]

OK, I'm back now.

Macros bothers me. His comments on the rack wagon and why he was thinking about voting rack really don't strike me as protown. Basically he just calls rack out for lurking and not contributing when given a chance. These really aren't scum traits at all.

Maxous also bothers me for his sudden jump on the rack wagon, especially given his previous comments on that wagon.

I will iso Firestarter a little bit later, to try and figure out why people don't like him.

Doesn't look like there is anything else really important happenning right now. Let me know if I missed something.

[Kublai Khan]

Head A of rack has been proven to respond to voting pressure. We can revisit Pine later.

Or we can visit Pine now.
Are you under the impression rack won't answer anything unless there is a bandwagon on him?

Distinctly so. The only read he's given since he decided he created a "shitstorm" was to call me scum after I started asking people to pressure him. I think he's trying to stall until this Head B shows up. Why are we letting him?

@KK: How in the hell can you call Rack's responses "responding well to pressure"?

I don't think I said "well", just that he responds. Which is what I want him to do. He's cagey as fuck. He was asked what his reads were and he figuratively answered "oh, all of them" and then he blamed me for being part of the "liberal drive-by lamestream media".

All I'm doing is asking that we stop and recognize the extreme scumminess of his behavior and shine a bright spotlight on him.

<ooc>Woo! Scummie! </ooc>

[jasonT1981]

and sure. I'm always up for a shotty pl. both of them.

Urgh, every game I see Shotty in there are calls for a policy lynch.It never happenes. and It achieves nothing

hey lets lynch firestarter.

these sort of statements are not helpful.

you do know that NN knew exactly why a Shotty pl was being talked about so he knew and I'm guessing most of the players IN THIS GAME also knew making your "it isn't common knowledge" a bunch of bullshit.

can you show me a game where Shotty was actually Policy Lynched, please?

...

I advise everyone to read the exchange I and candy just had

vote: candy

I did, complete backtrack by candy

HezLucky, jasonT1981, Junpei, Macross, Nero, Praetyre, and scooby:

You're the only players I couldn't see a clear read on rack when doing a quick ISO of the playerlist. Could you give your read on them?

Sure, will do at end of this post.

Nope, Nero's town this game.

Awesome.

how so? I hate these empty X is towen comments with no meaning or substance

jasonT1981"]Firestarter post...hmmm, not too sure on it right now, gut tells me something is off about it. But it is just gut.

jason

- More "firestarter is scum", but no explanation - please explain?

[/quote]

you read me wrong, I did not say he was scum, however something didnt sit right with me with the post. Not enough to call scum by, but enough to warrent being looked at closer.

Note - DeasVail seems to be coasting by... will look in Iso to confirm at end of post
Anti Hero seems town

vote:firestarter

antihero looks a lot better than ccv.

agreed

and mage and jasons were 3 mins apart OoOo

Yea, I laughed when I saw how many oh god I need to catch up posts there were in here

jun, why are you being so quiet this game?

i forgot he was even in this game

Out of all the things you could say, why so something useless that you know to be hypocritical instead of soemthing else?

these words could be said of you too right now

OK as promised, reads

Psyche - reasons given already
Benmage - reasons given already
Junpei - deadweight - no contribution
DeasVail - started off good, seems to be coastin

Null/unsure which way it could go

Firestarter - Something off about his opening post, still cant be fully sure
Antihero/CCV - CCV was coming across scummy. AH has rectified that, but still cant ignore CCV play early on
drmyshotgun - Urgh - gives me headache
drmyshottyizsik - Urgh, shotty is being shotty... it is indecisive of scum.town
rack - unsure where to go on this one
redFF - see Shotty
vijay2vasandani - weird exchange with earlier, unsure if town or scum

Town

The Mini-Librarian - seems town
Pine - seems to be playing how i have seen him play as town
Nero Cain - same as pine
mastin2 - good posting, though blocks are annoying at times
Lady Lambdadelta - seems town

Need mnore from/unable to get anything on

Kublai Khan
scooby.
Macros
NihilisticNinja - I had a town feeling I believe earlier, but seems to have drifted out of this game

[Benmage]

@Jason, is the top bracket (mine) your scum reads? You don't specify. Also, if they are... or actually regardless .... I don't recall nor see you mentioning me at all except for a brief comment with mastin.

[redFF]

redFF - see Shotty

oh hell naww

[Nero Cain]

I disagree with the "shotgun is obvious town b/c he claimed" crowd. I asked him a very simple question, why whould he as town bandwagon rack with a vote disquised as an RVS. He avoided said question and went on to claim a PR. This looks like newb scum trying to shut down early heat on him.but since he's a VI the scumread is weak.

LLD, NN and KK get scum points for their cognitive dissonance here i.e;Nero is scummy for not providing "proof" that Shotty is a vi but Shotgun is town for avoiding a question.

I aso have weak scum reads on Praetyre and Junpei. I continue to see Prae online and he's posted on the site 5 times since confirming here. I've played twice with Jun as town and both times he posted like crazy so his silence here seems unusual. His explanation that he's busy IRL is acceptable but I'd still like to watch this slot.

NN attacking me over a shotty pl seemed pretty lynch happy to me.

I felt LLD was merely shadowing NN. Also of note is her cognitive dissonance on my slot. KK calls me early town, she agrees, and then I'm scummy. She also notes how Rack is an "easy target" and says thats Librarian isn't "incredibly town" [for finding Rack scummy]...but votes Rack later on.

Fire has been talked about.

Jason's 161 seems like scumplaning.

you do know that NN knew exactly why a Shotty pl was being talked about so he knew and I'm guessing most of the players IN THIS GAME also knew making your "it isn't common knowledge" a bunch of bullshit.

can you show me a game where Shotty was actually Policy Lynched, please?

Stating that Shotty is a known VI has nothing to do with him actully getting lynched.

His asking Anti why I'm town but then putting me on his town list just seems off. I'm equally unimpressed by his list of scum reads.

Psyche's rack vote is terrible. He posts alot of fluff and saying that I misrepped his post when I was complaing about Fire is fed up with stupid AND then he uses the same thing he was complaining about to attack fire. lol I can deff see a fire-psyche team. His unvote of Rack when he still thinks rack is scummy is scum getting off a wagon thats lost steam. His reads in 286 read as frence straddling.

acceptable lynches

Psyche
Firestarter
jasonT1981
Lady Lambdadelta

Weak Scum reads

NihilisticNinja
Junpei
Praetyre
drmyshotgun

gut says scum

Maxous
Kublai Khan
Benmage



@Max- top 4 scum reads. GO!!!

[The Mini-Librarian]

LLD, NN and KK get scum points for their cognitive dissonance here i.e;Nero is scummy for not providing "proof" that Shotty is a vi but Shotgun is town for avoiding a question.

acceptable lynches

Psyche
Firestarter
jasonT1981
Lady Lambdadelta

Weak Scum reads

NihilisticNinja
Junpei
Praetyre
drmyshotgun

gut says scum

Maxous
Kublai Khan
Benmage

Why is NN a weak scum read and KK a gut read? You level the same amount of scum points against both.