In post 1447, StefanB wrote:Okay first thinks first: I am not claiming Tyrion, I claim someone who is an enemy of Cersei, not the crown or whatever else you believe in. The short was not a crumb, it started later.
There are 2 reason why I don't make the chara clear.
1. I have used crumbs since the beginning, so yeah I want them to be used.
2. If I am replacing out/ it should be my sucessor that makes the claim clear. (Way more believable and helpful to town since it is more sincere)
Okay, yeah. So this is 100%, without a doubt, a mislynch.
Fuck.
LET'S FLASHWAGON MASTERMIND OF SIN, GUYS. IT'S TOTALLY DOABLE IN NINE HOURS.
My gut feeling is that bvoigt is lying about his claim, but it's poor play to risk it on D1.
I think kortul is very likely town right now based on his reaction, though. Leaning town on Jal, but it's not super-strong. And I think Staeg is town mostly because he's playing a lot better than I think he would as scum.
I really think there are scum among the widely trusted strong players, though, because all the weaker players/easier lynches keep doing stuff that looks town.
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
What imaginary slight have you perceived this time?
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
The wagons were at 10-10. You just voted the claimed vig with no reasoning added on top. I haven't seen any reasons in your ISO previous to this, either.
In post 1470, Minimum wrote:I feel like this is a choice between a turd sandwich and giant douche right now. For both the vote and the choose.
I have expressed, actually, that I don't like any of the wagons. But we're not no-lynching, and I buy Stefan's claim and sincerity more than anything Bvoigt has said. Vig is an easy claim etc.
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
In post 1485, Shadow1psc wrote:I have expressed, actually, that I don't like any of the wagons. But we're not no-lynching, and I buy Stefan's claim and sincerity more than anything Bvoigt has said. Vig is an easy claim etc.
It's ok. We get that as scum you want to lynch a Vig.
That it doesn't make sense given that you could likely prove he was Mafia via your Role (since you could confirm bvoigts role name as Vig) should not be considered in the least ....
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
Sorry -- the High Septon isn't even a character as far as I've read, so it didn't come to mind. (I do know about the Honor Walk he has Cersei do, but nothing beyond that he has her do it.) He should've claimed the first time and avoided the confusion. <_<
Bvoight, why is Shinori town? The rest looks decent (I think MoI and Staeg are probably town, though).
In post 1485, Shadow1psc wrote:I have expressed, actually, that I don't like any of the wagons. But we're not no-lynching, and I buy Stefan's claim and sincerity more than anything Bvoigt has said. Vig is an easy claim etc.
It's ok. We get that as scum you want to lynch a Vig.
That it doesn't make sense given that you could likely prove he was Mafia via your Role (since you could confirm bvoigts role name as Vig) should not be considered in the least ....
Or I could confirm any number of other suspicious claims because
everyone and their mother claimed today
. And yes, I think it's in town's interest if we don't have five million kills tonight.
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
In post 1490, Shadow1psc wrote:Or I could confirm any number of other suspicious claims because everyone and their mother claimed today. And yes, I think it's in town's interest if we don't have five million kills tonight.
Bullshit.
Why would you bother to confirm a Mason claim given that it would be wasting the Role-block element of your role? Why would you bother confirming a VT claim? The odds you block the Nightkill in either case is pretty much zero.
Now the Vig on the other hand would be a good confirm if you are 'worried' about Nightkills.
1. It confirms him as Town.
2. It makes sure he doesn't kill Town regardless of his alignment
3. It helps establish a baseline for the number of other kill sources.
The 'five million Nightkills" is funny. Good work on using over-exaggeration to hide the weakness of your argument.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
But in all seriousness, you make more sense than I do this early in regards to that logic, so I'll concede. Sorry Stefan,
UNVOTE: VOTE: Bvoigt
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
Just to make thinks a bit more clear: The scumread on Minimum I had at the beginning is non existent now.
To everyone who still has this hydra as scum, please think about this again.
mockingjaye: Thanks for your post. Even if the suspicion about charactermotives is somethink you belive bad. It is at worst bad logic, not a tell. And I was a bit suprised to see that chara as town, when I got my rolePM.
Scum would have had it easier than to post what MJ posted. So no reason to call out for that, since I don't see the scumreason for it and well for townMJ she will be proven wrong probably soon. (I have a townread on her, this post is not the center of it and no proof but it is protown)
This point goes more against Staeg, whos attack is strange. She is voting the same way as you do, a few hours before endgame, it is a minor point, so why attack?
@all: Please lynch, if it's me well that is better than a nolynch, because nolynch day 1 = townlose.
So Minimum if you have no other choice vote me, you can't efford to kill a vig day 1.
Pedit: We are not lynching a claimed vig, NO!
Sapo: I give you and Regfan an aplaus for the lynch, I derped quite a lot, but you have driven it. Okay before that comes of as more mean that it should sound. Exspecially Regfan worked hard and it is better than not beeing there.
In post 1490, Shadow1psc wrote:Or I could confirm any number of other suspicious claims because everyone and their mother claimed today. And yes, I think it's in town's interest if we don't have five million kills tonight.
Bullshit.
Why would you bother to confirm a Mason claim given that it would be wasting the Role-block element of your role? Why would you bother confirming a VT claim? The odds you block the Nightkill in either case is pretty much zero.
Now the Vig on the other hand would be a good confirm if you are 'worried' about Nightkills.
1. It confirms him as Town.
2. It makes sure he doesn't kill Town regardless of his alignment
3. It helps establish a baseline for the number of other kill sources.
The 'five million Nightkills" is funny. Good work on using over-exaggeration to hide the weakness of your argument.
"I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."
In post 1494, Shadow1psc wrote:But in all seriousness, you make more sense than I do this early in regards to that logic, so I'll concede. Sorry Stefan,
