I just read all 17 pages in about the course of a an hour or two, so don't expect me to have that much of a solid understanding of everything that happened.
Just from what I saw, it looks like we have some minor to serious behavioral issues.
Mollie gives up with a defeatist attitude in Post 348. I mean, seriously? You have 4 votes on you (that's less than halfway to the lynch mark), and you already concede defeat? Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never played in a game as large as this one), but wagons have a tendency to change very quickly, especially when they're still somewhat small. If you're looking for a nicer way to put it, I suggest reading some Hiraki.
Hiraki. Makes me want to swallow staples.
I don't think I need to elaborate on Mr. Shinori either.
Now we do have a lot of more lurky people, and I hope not to fall into that state, but mostly you'll see me doing digest posts at around this time every 24 hours. Honestly, we seriously need some active participants to fill in the slots of these guys. Nobody except mcstab is targeting the lurkers - hell, all these guys could be scum.
That's not to say I'm going to put my vote on any of them in an attempt to "pressure" them into posting more. Mollie is definitely leaning scum at this point - either that or she's hopelessly trying to defend some stupid stuff that she said. I'm saying some, because I only picked up the "going after newbs bit as a scumtell bit". I'm assuming that there's more, as 6 people are voting molly (it was 7 before I took my vote off).
Don't even try to meta me. I most likely have sanity issues as well, but they don't get into the way of my logic that much. They do get in the way of my playstyle.
I had Thurhame pegged as scum when he was in that slot, but he may have just been a bad player (or too busy like he said, stranger things have happened).
Looking at Thurhame's iso, he does focus pretty hard on two specific lynches without providing really any rationale. They both also happened to be fairly popular.
In post 405, theomoaner wrote:I had Thurhame pegged as scum when he was in that slot, but he may have just been a bad player (or too busy like he said, stranger things have happened).
In post 407, dividizzle wrote:Looking at Thurhame's iso, he does focus pretty hard on two specific lynches without providing really any rationale. They both also happened to be fairly popular.
Guys, Thurhame is town. Believe me. We have bigger fish to fry at the moment. Like mollie and PMysterious.
In post 405, theomoaner wrote:I had Thurhame pegged as scum when he was in that slot, but he may have just been a bad player (or too busy like he said, stranger things have happened).
In post 407, dividizzle wrote:Looking at Thurhame's iso, he does focus pretty hard on two specific lynches without providing really any rationale. They both also happened to be fairly popular.
Guys, Thurhame is town. Believe me. We have bigger fish to fry at the moment. Like mollie and PMysterious.
I was feeling really badass last night when I posted that. Not really anymore. If you want, you can check out the other two games I played on this site. I wasn't as bipolar in those games, though, so you'll definitely see some changes to how I play.
Which you probably are arguing is scummy (I suppose from this post). I'm only experimenting with other styles, and you'll probably see some inconsistencies in my tone from day to day depending on how I'm feeling.
Guys, Thurhame is town. Believe me. We have bigger fish to fry at the moment. Like mollie and PMysterious.
Why are we to believe you? Also, it would be nice if you were to present some sort of case on these "bigger fish" that we need to "fry".
Why are we still on day 1? We have a confirmed liar in the town (Mollie was logged on earlier but declined to comment on my accusation of blatant lying) and we have not lynched. I know it's good and town-like to be cautious but you can take it too far.
P-edit: @Lottery-Number-Dude: I can live with that. I still think your slot is scummy though.
In post 413, theomoaner wrote:Why are we still on day 1? We have a confirmed liar in the town (Mollie was logged on earlier but declined to comment on my accusation of blatant lying) and we have not lynched. I know it's good and town-like to be cautious but you can take it too far.
Mollie was logged on earlier but declined to comment on my accusation of blatant lying
About this, its a general consensus on this site that using online/offline arguments is just bad (I vaguely recall it might have been downright illegal in some games). I'll believe it, but I suppose you could be downright lying as well.
or are you just trying to frame Salandaar when you flip scum?
Theo, I don't understand this at all. If someone flips scum, how are they supposed to frame someone? Wouldn't town mistrust them?
McStab is losing town points to me for posting in other threads but not contributing in this one.
and @ everyone thinking my belief and trust in Thurhame means that I am scum:
Thurhame and NJAC seem very town to me. I read them as scum while they were town in our newbie game, and I think in light of that it's very likely that they're town as well in this game. I really have no reason to believe otherwise until we get to the point at which it becomes obvious I made an erroneous assumption (but I do not think that would happen). mollie is scummy for simply giving up at L-5 and PMysterious is suspicious for lurking so much.
Although I have to say everyone here is lurking a lot, too. Come on town, step it up. Even if I don't have much to say I still try to say something to help move things along.
OK I tell you what, I will show you how I read posts like this.
In post 401, 10506670 wrote:I just read all 17 pages in about the course of a an hour or two, so don't expect me to have that much of a solid understanding of everything that happened.
Fair intro; expect content to come...
In post 401, 10506670 wrote:
Just from what I saw, it looks like we have some minor to serious behavioral issues.
Mollie gives up with a defeatist attitude in Post 348. I mean, seriously? You have 4 votes on you (that's less than halfway to the lynch mark), and you already concede defeat? Correct me if I'm wrong (I've never played in a game as large as this one), but wagons have a tendency to change very quickly, especially when they're still somewhat small. If you're looking for a nicer way to put it, I suggest reading some Hiraki.
Hiraki. Makes me want to swallow staples.
I don't think I need to elaborate on Mr. Shinori either.
Now we do have a lot of more lurky people, and I hope not to fall into that state, but mostly you'll see me doing digest posts at around this time every 24 hours. Honestly, we seriously need some active participants to fill in the slots of these guys. Nobody except mcstab is targeting the lurkers - hell, all these guys could be scum.
That's not to say I'm going to put my vote on any of them in an attempt to "pressure" them into posting more.
Pointless, all of it, but there are lots of words, lots of words + pointless = scummy.
In post 401, 10506670 wrote:
Mollie is definitely leaning scum at this point - either that or she's hopelessly trying to defend some stupid stuff that she said. I'm saying some, because I only picked up the "going after newbs bit as a scumtell bit". I'm assuming that there's more, as 6 people are voting molly (it was 7 before I took my vote off).
Content - Mollie is leaning scum OR shes trying to defend... WAFFLE WAFFLE WAFFLE.
In post 401, 10506670 wrote:
Don't even try to meta me. I most likely have sanity issues as well, but they don't get into the way of my logic that much. They do get in the way of my playstyle.
Have you got a VI post restriction? It's the only reason I can think of for what amounts to possibly the worst ever misapplication of OMGUS. I mean we are not even voting for each other for a start.
Oh dear. Yes town can drop scumtells, how else could mislynches happen?
but a scumtell is specifically something that scum are much more likely to do than town, not something that scum and town do in roughly equal measures
. Otherwise what use is it for finding scum?
that is what I said.
you most certainly can cos town will drop a lot of objective scum tells too. I have met very few players who play a super clean game. scum will go after low hanging fruit but so will xenophobic town. the 2 are scummy but the motivations behind the 2 will be different.
scum tend to do it more often
the reason they do it is consistent with their win condition (try to get town to lynch town) so that is why it is objectively scummy.
I explicitly said that I was scumhunting from who I thought was in my town pile out, telo and thurhame were on the periphereal. your weird fixation and persistent reframing of this looks scummy.
Wrong. I'm specificaly referring to your two posts #232 which is a direct answer to a question from Slandaar. No explicit "these are the scum who are in my town pool".
You didn't did you? This was my accusation of blatant lying in post #392, which you declined to comment on.
In post 392, theomoaner wrote:
And post 325, which also makes no such explicit claim, unless I missed it of course. You have now gone from contradiction to blatant lying.
Doh!, This is where I accuse you of blantant lying which you delined to comment on Mollie.
In post 392, theomoaner wrote:
And post 325, which also makes no such explicit claim, unless I missed it of course. You have now gone from contradiction to blatant lying.
Doh!, This is where I accuse you of blantant lying which you delined to comment on Mollie.
slandaar asked me who was in my scum pile and I went with the predicate of who was *not* in my town pile since I clearly stated that is what I was working from. those were the people who were NOT in my town pile at the time and who's posts I was looking at.