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TwoUpstandingGentlemen · Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:27 am

In post 132, Kimor wrote:Scum? You're definitely scum, I just am not sure of your alignment.

And also, trololol for playing the exact word game

Though that post is the relevant one for the accusation - natch.

Robocopter87 · Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:16 am

In post 193, TwoUpstandingGentlemen wrote:
Frankly, town, just lynch me.

Holy frick

Lynch this.

Fast.

Robocopter87 · Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:18 am

Also his comparing his situation to a daycop with a guilty is cute

Kimor · Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:38 am

In post 200, TwoUpstandingGentlemen wrote:
In post 132, Kimor wrote:Scum? You're definitely scum, I just am not sure of your alignment.

And also, trololol for playing the exact word game

Though that post is the relevant one for the accusation - natch.

TwoUpstandingGentlemen · Post Post #204 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:04 pm

@Robo - thanks for avoiding discussing the points of the case still.

@Kimor - thanks for avoiding discussing how you just made up a false argument, applied it to me, and then ignoring when I called you on it. Invariably no one else but me will notice, yet again, for reasons I can't grok.

TwoUpstandingGentlemen · Post Post #205 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:12 pm

For what it's worth, if we weren't attached at the vote, I'd join you.

-Majiffy

Robocopter87 · Post Post #206 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:15 pm

Just sit there and keep screaming about page 2.

TwoUpstandingGentlemen · Post Post #207 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:24 pm

You say that like your vote isn't based off early actions in the game.
You say that like, somehow, the page number a tell happened on matters in any way at all.

Kimor · Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:29 pm

Unvote, vote: TwoUpstandingGentlemen

I really don't feel great about this, but I have become convinced that this game will be completely unable to move forward until we do this.

Cheery Dog · Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:48 pm

In post 187, TwoUpstandingGentlemen wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=22633

Oh, snap - there's the exact scumtell as this game.
Incorrect usage of meta information while being caught in a lie about it. Boom.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22070

While I was in this game and therefore know it to be true, you'll notice we didn't actually lynch that slot until day 5.
People just aren't ready to accept meta mistakes as scum facts yet.

But actually linking that game reminded me about how I mostly didn't like your playstyle then, which shouldn't actually be an issue.

Looking at the last votecount;

Intent to hammer Kimor

Kimor · Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:50 pm

In post 209, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 187, TwoUpstandingGentlemen wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=22633

Oh, snap - there's the exact scumtell as this game.
Incorrect usage of meta information while being caught in a lie about it. Boom.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22070

While I was in this game and therefore know it to be true, you'll notice we didn't actually lynch that slot until day 5.
People just aren't ready to accept meta mistakes as scum facts yet.

But actually linking that game reminded me about how I mostly didn't like your playstyle then, which shouldn't actually be an issue.

Looking at the last votecount;
Intent to hammer Kimor

1) On what grounds?

2) Empking unvoted.

Cheery Dog · Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:38 pm

On the grounds of sheeping TUG and the newbie game he linked in which I had read Nefres wrong, which was the person Thor had caught as scum using the technique he's claiming on you.

well then I fail at looking at who was actually on a wagon and has unvoted since that votecount. (damn bottom of page counts)
VOTE: Kimor

Kimor · Post Post #212 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:55 pm

So, you are of the opinion that sheeping is a valid strategy?

Kimor · Post Post #213 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:59 pm

Actually, you know what...

Unvote, confirm vote: Cheery Dog

This whole thing looks like a great attempt to avoid liability for a potential lynch. If I were lynched, when I flipped town, TUG would get the heat, not CD. Combine this with my previous feelings regarding CD.

Cheery Dog · Post Post #214 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:03 pm

In post 212, Kimor wrote:So, you are of the opinion that sheeping is a valid strategy?

From what I've played with Thor, yes sheeping him can be a valid strategy.
I don't think the same for Majiffy, as he was wanting a policy lynch to happen in that same game - though my vote kept drifting back and forth on the wagon he was after.

Kimor · Post Post #215 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:06 pm

In post 214, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 212, Kimor wrote:So, you are of the opinion that sheeping is a valid strategy?

From what I've played with Thor, yes sheeping him can be a valid strategy.
I don't think the same for Majiffy, as he was wanting a policy lynch to happen in that same game - though my vote kept drifting back and forth on the wagon he was after.

Do you believe that "good" players are less likely to be scum? (Not admitting that Thor OR Majiffy are good players)

Kimor · Post Post #216 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:07 pm

Also, Mod, could we get a prod/replace for Ovyo? She hasn't logged in since the 30th.

Cheery Dog · Post Post #217 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:10 pm

In post 215, Kimor wrote:
Do you believe that "good" players are less likely to be scum? (Not admitting that Thor OR Majiffy are good players)

They have the same chance as everyone else, the only alignment I am capable of truly knowing at this stage is my own.

Kimor · Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:16 pm

In post 217, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 215, Kimor wrote:
Do you believe that "good" players are less likely to be scum? (Not admitting that Thor OR Majiffy are good players)

They have the same chance as everyone else, the only alignment I am capable of truly knowing at this stage is my own.

You would agree with me that, if TUG were in the mafia, pressing a case against a fellow mafia member would not be an ideal play?

Cheery Dog · Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:29 pm

In post 218, Kimor wrote:
You would agree with me that, if TUG were in the mafia, pressing a case against a fellow mafia member would not be an ideal play?

On day 1 as the first case presented, yes I agree that would be bad play.
A later case perhaps not

Kimor · Post Post #220 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:34 pm

In post 219, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 218, Kimor wrote:
You would agree with me that, if TUG were in the mafia, pressing a case against a fellow mafia member would not be an ideal play?

On day 1 as the first case presented, yes I agree that would be bad play.
A later case perhaps not

So, therefore, you believe that TUG is town in this game?

Cheery Dog · Post Post #221 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:01 pm

Currently, yes

Kimor · Post Post #222 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:04 pm

In post 221, Cheery Dog wrote:Currently, yes

But didn't you earlier say that you had no idea of his alignment?

Cheery Dog · Post Post #223 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:20 pm

In post 222, Kimor wrote:
In post 221, Cheery Dog wrote:Currently, yes

But didn't you earlier say that you had no idea of his alignment?

Let me check..

In post 217, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 215, Kimor wrote:
Do you believe that "good" players are less likely to be scum? (Not admitting that Thor OR Majiffy are good players)

They have the same chance as everyone else, the only alignment I am capable of truly knowing at this stage is my own.

I don't believe so, I just stated theory facts.
I have no idea if I am identifing his alignment correctly, however his posts are pointing towards town.

ovyo · Post Post #224 (ISO) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:31 pm

Sorry guys, I got a load of assignments from college this week. I'll read through and comment later.