A Dance with Dragons Mafia: A New Dawn!

[Mastermind of Sin]

First I try to put some effort into this game with what little time I have (there's a reason I'm only in one game right now), and immediately you come after me for not putting MORE effort into the game. And then I have to spend the rest of my time explaining to your fucking retarded brain why I'm not doing MORE to scumhunt, when YOU are the exact reason I don't have time to do MORE. So seriously, fuck off and get off your goddamn high horse.

I'm done with you and your bitch ass.

Mod: Replace me

[Eddard Stark]

Day 4, Votecount 12

4nx3ty (1) - Regfan
Pine (1) - 4nxi3ty
BBmolla (1) - Benmage

Timeater (5) - Magua, Feysal, kortul, Lyanna Stark, Mastermind of Sin

Magua (1) - Timeater
Feysal (4) - Plums Yo Mamma, BBmolla, Pandora, Zdenek
Mastermind of Sin (1) - Tyene Sand
Pine (1) - Minimum

Not Voting (2):

Shinori, Pine

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline

: 6th October at 19:30am Ireland time. (GMT+1)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-10-06 14:30:47)

Timeater replaces Scumhunter.
Replacing Mastermind of Sin.

Ps if you know anyone who might want to replace in let me know.

[Regfan]

Welcome Timeater.

First I try to put some effort into this game with what little time I have (there's a reason I'm only in one game right now), and immediately you come after me for not putting MORE effort into the game. And then I have to spend the rest of my time explaining to your fucking retarded brain why I'm not doing MORE to scumhunt, when YOU are the exact reason I don't have time to do MORE. So seriously, fuck off and get off your goddamn high horse.

1) Replacing out 3 days from the deadline isn't helpful to anyone so rescind that request and save everyone including Faratroll sometime.

2) You're making it out as if ISOing 3-4 players is a massive massive thing. It doesn't take more than 40 minutes to do which is such a small amount of time that that you could easily devote towards it if you really put in the effort and maybe instead of responding to me over and over again saying 'omg how will i have time no time!' you could, just youknow do the reading into them and come out with content that isn't number related.

[Eddard Stark]

AurorosVox replaces Mastermind of Sin. Thanks a lot!

[Lyanna Stark]

Well it's nice to know I'm not the only person prone to theatrics. I've barely skimmed the past several pages, so I have some catching up to do, but I got some sleep last night so I can work on this after work today some.

I was going to say that I was leading town on MoS, the point thing was weird, but thinking about it I'm not sure why he'd do it as scum. He always does wagon analysis as either alignment, so the only reason why I could imagine the new system as evil is if he were trying to make a partner look good, but that doesn't fit for MoS really. I don't know what to make of his appealing to his new meta though and need to read over the defense of himself he provided.

Also,

unvote

this slot should become productive now and there are people who can read him too. Tyene, I was going to tell you that scumhunters behavior was deliberately harmful to his team in lylo. He can play the game and is smarter than he acted, but it doesn't matter if he'd be able to catch scum in lylo if all he did was troll and complain about laziness, as he's not going to be able to sway the other townie.

Also, for now

vote feysal

. I haven't had a chance to read the case in full or his defense, but I'm willing to give plum this. They were right on bvoigt on day one and there have been aspects of his play that don't sit well.

I've been thinking about staeg and I think that he was probably actually really important. The two masons were freys and shinori himself is supposedly a Frey. That's three already, and there could be more along with any Frey fake claims that have been given out. I'm willing to bet there's scum on that wagon, so it's something I want to take a look at. Still keep coming back to shinori being a Frey and not outing that. People have been writing it off as stupid play, but shinori's not stupid so. With almost half the player base being replacements and others near not contributing at all, this has been a bit frustrating and I feel like I'm overlooking something. Still leaning town on shinori for some of the things he's said though.

[kortul]

I really don't like the move of MoS. If you are annoyed by a particular player suspicions/comments/etc - just ignore him. Replacing out with some of the focus on you and that close to deadline is bad.

@mod

, can we have a time extension for a deadline? With 2 days remaining it isn't realistic for replacements to get what's going on in a game of this size. I hope i am not the only one who thinks so.

Starting a reread.

[Timeater]

yo

im a vt and im a lannister with blond hair

[Timeater]

can someone give me the footnotes before i attempt to skim this beast

[Timeater]

why are there votes on me

stahp it

[Regfan]

I second Kortuls request for a slight extension so that both replacements have ample time.

Timeater, have you been following along the game at all? If not then why did you instantly come in and claim?

[Minimum]

CES, Pine hasn't been online in 36ish hours + his posts between his 'catching up' here and elsewhere all seem small. So think he's struggling IRL time wise and the meta thing is nullified.

Don't be such a spoilsport. Totally ruining sweet lynchings. He obviously must've had some time given he agreed to replace in anyway. Jal/Pine is scum and they should be lynched.

[Timeater]

Because I have nothing to lose by doing so lol. Saves me time and energy, saves everyone any potential bs related to my predecessors.

And to answer your question no. Not at all. Also I've only watched the show, haven't read the books. Replaced in as a favor to Faraday.

[Regfan]

Timeater, mind linking me to a game where you insta-claim when replacing in as town then? (Scumhunter and Starbuck both your predecessors claimed VT at different times as well with Scumhunter claiming his role-name so your insta-claim upon replacing in comes across as somewhat forced).

And for footnotes, read the game, as much of it as you can but summary is that NachoPlum are godhanded so we'll find out their alignment mod-confirmed at the end of tomorrow. Tierce/Tammy/Pandora/Benmage/Molla/Zdenek/Magua are all very likely town, Kortul/Minimum/Shinori are probably town too and I don't think Feysal fits as either scum-team but there's a case that holds some ground on him that I still need to re-read into so reading into him and as much of the case as you can (NachoPlums pushing). I'd also suggest looking at 4nxiety (Who is scum), AV/MoS and Jal when reading.

[Timeater]

i dont think i have before

this is me talking about it in md a little tho? http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4263109

[Timeater]

why arent you dead reg

[4nxi3ty]

Feysal-stance is about the only thing I agree with of yours.

point still stands.

whether you agree or disagree with my stances has nothing to do with it.

You implied scumminess on my part for not contributing/taking stances, while in the same post, it clearly shows, you understand I have taken a stance on feysal.

Hmm, let's see. I have previously stated I thought Jal was highly likely to be Stannis faction, and that Mocking/4nxiety and Benmage were both highly likely to be Aegon faction. So either you must be REALLY bad at reading comprehension to not realize that claiming someone is probably part of a scum faction means I have a scumread on them or you're purposefully trying to do everything you can to attack me right now without actually stopping to make sure that your "case" makes any sense. ...and I really don't think you're that stupid to actually think your case makes sense.

Major FoS: Regfan

THAT'S EXACTLY IT. You've gone through your analysis and came back stating they're likely X/Y scum but you've never decided 'hmm I should re-read their actual posts and not some stupid points system to get a read on them', you're content basing all your reads of point system which makes no sense at all which is why it's a fake contribution and allows you to just vote high points back to back without justifying with any real reasoning other than 'high points!'

this doesn't address what MoS was talking about.

you said he was scummy for not stating reads on jal, mockingjaye, or benmage.
He pointed out thats was wrong and had, in fact, given reads on those three earlier in the game.
He was accusing you of being scummy for not taking the time to realize your statement was false.

Instead of addressing this accusation(explaining why you didn't take note of those earlier reads), you default to a different argument surrounding his VCA.

[Regfan]

why arent you dead reg

Think it's likely I bite the bullet at night soon to be honest, just treating every day I survive as a gift.

point still stands. whether you agree or disagree with my stances has nothing to do with it. You implied scumminess on my part for not contributing/taking stances, while in the same post, it clearly shows, you understand I have taken a stance on feysal.

Not even close to similar. Agreeing with a point of yours doesn't mean that the rest of your comments and contributions are 'non-scummy' or relevant, your entire spiel about the greyscalling lynch literally gives nothing towards the game and that's not even 'agree/disagree' wise, it's flat out useless posting.

this doesn't address what MoS was talking about. you said he was scummy for not stating reads on jal, mockingjaye, or benmage. he pointed out thats was wrong and had, in fact, given reads on those three earlier in the game. He was accusing you of being scummy for not taking the time to realize your statement was false. Instead of addressing this accusation(explaining why you didn't take note of those earlier reads), you default to a different argument surrounding his VCA.

Except he didn't take a stance or have a read on Jal/MockingJaye/Benmage earlier in the game. The first time he ever really took a stance on any of the players where via his VCA which was just numbers thrown together in an illogical fashion (And he kept avoiding responding to how voting alongside the same wagon as scum isn't a scum-tell in a game like this). I kept continuously pointing out the same thing (That he's not actually scumhunting and stating reads on them based on motivation behind posts) and he responding to it by flinging shit and then ultimately complaining about no time and replacing out.

[AurorusVox]

Yo timmy I just replaced in too homie.
Don't bother reading tho early vt claim prior to seeing a wagon on you as your posts suggests = I'm swinging mah noose your way.

[Timeater]

put your money where your mouth is mister i have an ace up my sleeve

[AurorusVox]

My predecessor is voting you.
It'd better be a

Royal

Flush.

[AurorusVox]

That was me trolling btw, nothing will save you now.

[Timeater]

oh fuck nevermind scumhunter already claimed jaime

well look im town this is me just being lazy let me try to read this novella of a game and i'll get back to you

[4nxi3ty]

point still stands. whether you agree or disagree with my stances has nothing to do with it. You implied scumminess on my part for not contributing/taking stances, while in the same post, it clearly shows, you understand I have taken a stance on feysal.

Not even close to similar. Agreeing with a point of yours doesn't mean that the rest of your comments and contributions are 'non-scummy' or relevant, your entire spiel about the greyscalling lynch literally gives nothing towards the game and that's not even 'agree/disagree' wise, it's flat out useless posting.

that was one post, I have sixteen other posts. I have taken a stance on MoS, Jal, and several others.

and that still doens't jusity "agreeing I have a point about feysal" yet implying I "haven't contributed to the game" in the same post.

Except he didn't take a stance or have a read on Jal/MockingJaye/Benmage earlier in the game. The first time he ever really took a stance on any of the players where via his VCA which was just numbers thrown together in an illogical fashion (And he kept avoiding responding to how voting alongside the same wagon as scum isn't a scum-tell in a game like this). I kept continuously pointing out the same thing (That he's not actually scumhunting and stating reads on them based on motivation behind posts) and he responding to it by flinging shit and then ultimately complaining about no time and replacing out.

hmm I thought he was talking about much earlier, you are correct about the vca being the first time he mentioned them, so scratch that.
still think you are drawing the wrong conclusions about his vca.

no longer comfortable with a timeater lynch.

[Eddard Stark]

Day 4, Votecount 13

4nx3ty (1) - Regfan
Pine (2) - 4nxi3ty, Minimum
BBmolla (1) - Benmage
Timeater (4) - Magua, Feysal, kortul, Mastermind of Sin
Magua (1) - Timeater

Feysal (5) - Plums Yo Mamma, BBmolla, Pandora, Zdenek, Lyanna Stark

Mastermind of Sin (1) - Tyene Sand

Not Voting (2):

Shinori, Pine

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline

: 9th October at 19:30pm Ireland time. (GMT+1)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-10-09 14:30:47)

Added 72 hours to deadline.

[BBmolla]

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