Mafia 158: Titanium. Game over

[buldermar]

@buldemar regarding post addressed to me. What do you mean what use is it? Do you want me to make up a firm view when I'm not that confident. I'm sorry, I won't do that. You are telling me that you are 100% sure about the alignment of every player in this game? If I had to decide now I would say he's town but obviously I'm not sure, I apologize if my lack of omniscience inconveniences you. By the way treat this post as if it came before his most recent potential scumslip, which I haven't thought through.

I mean exactly what I said: what use is it? I did not realize it would be such a difficult question to comprehend.

[Hiraki]

god speed buldemar

[NJAC]

@Buldermar: Deal. No lynch would be terrible:

UNVOTE: Maenara
VOTE: Shinori

[NJAC]

@Maenara: I still want to see your PbPA with regards to the "obviously scum-team" of Jun, Dividizzle and Enigma

[Maenara]

The PbPA was meant to be of Jun alone (Though obviously, his interactions with other show from it), but in light of recent events, I'm not doing it 'till next day, as we won't be lynching him anyhow, and playing your entire hand right before scum get to kill someone is stupid.

I trust that, should I against all expectations die tonight, town will not fall victim to WIFOM and lynch the wrong person. Unless there's a very good reason to believe anything to the contrary, kill Dividizzle, then Jun.

UNVOTE: Jun
VOTE: Shinori

Also, FYI, I'd definitely not be okay with a lynch on you, Buldermar. I think you might potentially turn out to be a SK, but at the moment, you're a very useful asset to town either way.

[Maenara]

That's L-1, by the way, if I can count.

[mykonian]

votecount

shinori (7): hiraki, Thebuttonmen, buldermar, combinatorialEnigma, qwints, NJAC, maenara
maenara (4): jun, eleison, dividizzle, shinori
jun (2): theomoaner, 10506670
cobinatorialEnigma (1): smashbard

not voting (0):

With 14 players it is 8 to lynch (7 to no lynch)

Deadline is on the 13th of october

[Hiraki]

Bad counting, Maenara.

[qwints]

No, maenara counted correctly.

Mod, there are 7 names voting for Shinori currently

[Maenara]

And I'd still like an actual time on that deadline, so as to avoid getting caught in an accidental no-lynch.

[combinatorialEnigma]

Where's Elieson anyway? He hasn't posted in like a week. Did he announce V/LA and I just missed it?

Given that he was the one that started the original Shinori wagon when day 2 began, it'd be fitting if he hammered Shinori now.

[qwints]

He's in Disneyland. He said he'd be back Friday.

[NJAC]

@buldemar regarding post addressed to me. What do you mean what use is it? Do you want me to make up a firm view when I'm not that confident. I'm sorry, I won't do that. You are telling me that you are 100% sure about the alignment of every player in this game? If I had to decide now I would say he's town but obviously I'm not sure, I apologize if my lack of omniscience inconveniences you. By the way treat this post as if it came before his most recent potential scumslip, which I haven't thought through.

I had your very same problem with that fence-sitting thing, it's impossible to be sure about your reads but you need to take a stance, it's up to you to hunt the scums and you need to decide by yourself who to lynch, who is town and who is scum, so take the stance and go for it. Maybe your initial logic will be wrong but it could be useful later, and if we stay on the said fence then how are we going to win when lynching is our only weapon?

[NJAC]

Honestly, looking at post 914 I don't currently recall what reasons I had in mind (I think you're the first to ask, and post 914 was quite a long time ago). I think I could remember by reading my previous posts, but I'd rather not spend time reading them again just for that. If it is important to you, or if you can't trust that I had different reasons, let me know and I'll do my best to recall it.

Let's wait for the flip and we'll see...

[Smashbard]

Fuck it. I wanted to finish my reads on the players, but Elieson or I will probably be dead by tonight anyway, so I'm not sure even sure how useful a list is going to be anyway.

I will preface this though, I do believe Buldermar, Theomoaner and Quintz are town for sure. If I should not be alive come day phase, and Elieson agrees with that analysis, I would like the surviving Mason, Buldermar, Theo & Quintz to begin forming a voting block to weed out the scum. In my opinion it's go time, and unless the Block has reason to suspect one of their own, I think they should begin voting as a block as much as possible after today.

Unvote. Vote: Shinori

[mykonian]

votecount

shinori (8): hiraki, Thebuttonmen, buldermar, combinatorialEnigma, qwints, NJAC, maenara, smashbard
maenara (4): jun, eleison, dividizzle, shinori
jun (2): theomoaner, 10506670

not voting (0):

With 14 players it was 8 to lynch (7 to no lynch)


What's more dangerous, a determined killer? Ask shinori, in the afterlife.

Shinori, a vanilla townie, was lynched.

It is now night 2, and will be for 48 hours.

[mykonian]

"I swear you, I didn't mean it that way. Oh god, please don't kill me. I swear I just was there on accident. It had nothing to do with..."

BANG

the killer needed to hear no more. They always had their excuses, but he knew better.

Qwints, VT, was killed night 2.

It is now day 3, with 12 alive it's 7 to lynch. Deadline is in two weeks.

[Maenara]

Pathetic attempt at getting me mislynched today, scum.

Vote: Dividizzle

[Maenara]

...why did I vote like that?

VOTE: Dividizzle

[Hiraki]

I'm considering Maenara now.

[Maenara]

Because the guy whose lynch I didn't advocate, but which I compromised on, turned out to be town? Because the guy who constantly tunneled on me D2 was killed during the night?

Look, there's such a thing as scum creating WIFOM, but I wouldn't be stupid enough to highlight it in the very first post of D3, posted 17 minutes after the day started, if I'd been the one to kill him.

Now can we please kill the obvious scum of obviousness?

[10506670]

Pretty weird night kill. Don't know if they're looking to frame the masons or if the masons are actually scum.

VOTE: Jun

Tried to push for qwints, misreps me, and is scummy for reasons stated in my previous post.

Numbers doesn't vote Shinori until his train passes and he doesn't vote Maenara either.

I didn't vote for Shinori "until his train passes"? Hardly, man. I put him at L-1. And I just don't think Maenara is scummy.

[NJAC]

Because the guy whose lynch I didn't advocate, but which I compromised on, turned out to be town? Because the guy who constantly tunneled on me D2 was killed during the night?

Look, there's such a thing as scum creating WIFOM, but I wouldn't be stupid enough to highlight it in the very first post of D3, posted 17 minutes after the day started, if I'd been the one to kill him.

Now can we please kill the obvious scum of obviousness?

Maybe you're smart enough to be WIFOMing us with all the "scums wouldn't do that" thing.

And I just don't think Maenara is scummy.

Man, you're going to need to explain why do you think she's not scummy.

[theomoaner]

We started early then.

I'm in the midst of reconsidering a few things.

The Shinori lynch was stoopid.

Maenara should win a scummie for her WIFOM in first few posts of the day.

[Smashbard]

If my analysis is correct, we should have 4 scum in a 16 player game. That means we CANT mislynch again. Otherwise we're in lylo. No more policy lynches.