I love the 90's Cartoons - Game over all hail The Brain!

[Oversoul]

That's what he said Pere.

That vote was awfully survivalistic. I don't think you've done that before.

[sword_of_omens]

i swear...work is driving me insane...

not a whole lot of time today, so real quickly…

You said this before Rach said what her ability was. Why did you think someone used a blackout ability?

@Jal,
Here’s how things went that day.
1.Day started early
2.No body was dead,
3.CKD said he didn’t protect anyone
4.You made mention that Rachel may have protected everybody.
5. CKD then confirms his protection would have failed anyway.

Put them all together and it’s not hard to to see it…especially after 4 and 5.
A blackout ability would kill all other abilities, Farraday would not have to wait for everyone elses PM
to come in once she got Rach’s PM, so she could have accidentally started the day early based on that..


@Seanald:

you could just realize that your seanald case will end up being a hodge podge of scummy actions and myslynches but nothing that really leads to anything sensical.
However I like your cases. But who are you going to vote? or where are you leaning to vote right now since you havn't done the case one me yet

you like my cases, but do you agree with them?

gonna try and do Seanald today like i promised..although it is Halloween and it's pretty crazy over here...
Seanald please answer my question above and hopefully after lunch i can set aside some time..

[sword_of_omens]

*(YEH I'M AN IDIOT)EDIT: and by Farraday, i mean Farside

[Oversoul]

I really dont think Sword is scum.

His effort levels are too high.

[PeregrineV]

That's what he said Pere.

That vote was awfully survivalistic. I don't think you've done that before.

I was pointing out that the double vote could be used any day. But, since it's shown up in the VCs already, I doubt you could save it now.

Anyways, I have no expectation of actually surviving the game, but I know I'm town, and Last is on my not-town list.

Sword is moving off it, or at least closer to the end.

[sword_of_omens]

Sorry guys,
got caught up in work over here and other stuff...
Seanald will have to wait again...

wanted to state that i'm actually not liking either of the wagon choices today...

i expressed why i thought Pere was town...
Michel's play dictates otherwise...he consistently voted town even on the counterwagon to town lynch (except when Nero was obvchoice). He played conservatively as scum...not to mention scum lost Nero and Amrun back to back...Michel wouldn't have tried to bus him immediately after losing two team members...

and LS's post that i pointed out gives him huge town points....
he would have been stupid to put that many of his team members on blast.

[Seanald]

Yeah I agree with your cases for the most part Sword they were well made. the only case you really need for LS is the fact that we have lynched 3 scum and he has been on only 1 of those lynches and that was at the end of the wagon.

was reading through ISOs and totally jumbled my self up with trying to find relations between people.

Was reading Jal and felt it weird alot of her interactions with known scum in early days were like little 1 liners, and half the time agreeing with them. But i read on and her interactions with them seemed more normal, IDK what to think.

And I will agree LS ISO doesn't indicate much except for his votes.

Im at a loss honestly.

[Seanald]

ok Read some more, Jal is town

[Oversoul]

Something has got to give with all these townreads being thrown around.

[Seanald]

im stumped as fuckin hell.

[Porochaz]

We could go for Seanald instead?

[Oversoul]

An MSH lynch seems silly. I don't think I'll ever be on board for lynching him.

Sword, I'm confused by your point that scum do have fake claims if MSH is town role cops (I'm also not entirely sure how it's relevant). But all scum would have to do is go through any of the hundreds of cartoons out there and find another character. OR, just use the protagonist of their actual character's show. This isn't a game where fake claims are really a necessity.
MSH, why should we vote Cheery, other than PoE?

Waiting on results before a vote since MSH is at L-2.

I believe he is scum though. It wouldn't make much sense for the scum to leave him alive, since these last inspections could out a more villainous character, or a fake claim, etc. Also, I think he's experienced enough to consider the possibility that Pere is not necessarily cleared based on the facts.

In the span of those two posts he wants a Michel lynch?

He gives no thought to WIFOM or anything just immediately jumps to that after saying his lynch was dumb.

[Oversoul]

I just remembered I was supposed to make a case on LS.

Well, lmao. I'll do that later (I promise this time >_>)

Anyway, look at his interaction with Amrun, Arugula, and PP. they are disconnected.

I'll explain later. Just look at his scum reads on the first page of his Iso and then look at his votes when he has those scum reads.

[Lastsurvivor]

Seanald if there's nothing scummy in my ISO then why are you voting me...

In the span of those two posts he wants a Michel lynch?

He gives no thought to WIFOM or anything just immediately jumps to that after saying his lynch was dumb.

You realize that in between that in between those two posts was Cheery's lynch and Rach's death, right? AKA a major change in information that I wasn't expecting? I thought that if there were a scum in our PRs, it would be Rach, since she could hypothetically be the commuter opposite PP. Her death made MSH look extremely suspicious.

And yes of course I gave thought to the WIFOM. But I'm not going to speculate if I don't have to, since that does more harm than good. <.<

Pere, what part of Sword's analyses has good info? Furthermore, why are you voting me, exactly? Your vote is terribad since you gave no reasoning...

[PeregrineV]

Pere, what part of Sword's analyses has good info? Furthermore, why are you voting me, exactly? Your vote is terribad since you gave no reasoning...

He's using logic to find scum. There are certain things scum has to do and certain things scum commonly does that are dictated by logic (vote timing, vote patterns, push timing, etc.) See Michel's scum/clear list I posted.

I was originally voting you thinking to save Oversoul from having to use the double-vote, and because you're on my scumlist.
Now, you're still there on the list, with only Seanald being higher, and I know I'm town. And with Sword moving off the list, that leaves Seanald, you, Jal.

[PinkyandtheBrain]

vote count:

LastSurvivor (4) seanald, Oversoul, Oversoul, PeregrineV
Peregrine (4) last survivor, Lowman, Jal, Porochaz

With 8 alive it will take 5 to lynch

[Jal]

@Sword

: Yeah, I guess that does... make sense. This is my first game that someone has had a commuter or similar ability - it just wasn't my first or second thought.

We could go for Seanald instead?

I'd be up for this alternative.

[Jal]

Well, maybe my second thought.

[Seanald]

quite honestly the ones who are scum are the ones acually pushing for a lynch and case.

Notice Jal, how yourself, me, sword, and oversoul, even a bit of porochaz are all basically in the same boat wondering on what to acually decide on.

[Seanald]

its gotta be between LS and Pere

[Seanald]

only problem with that is, it means theres only 1 scum left. which im not sure makes sense given the size of the game. I've been thinking this over much more recently but there probably is a 3rd party as well, survivor, sk something

[Oversoul]

Seanald is not scum MSH definitely tried to get a mislynch through on his ass with his investigation post flip.
Poro is prob not scum. Scum deliberately do not have this crappy of a game (I'm sorry but it's true)
Sword is not scum. He would not be putting this much effort in.
I'm not scum.
Low man not scum (Mod replacement on him?)
Between Jal/LS/Peregrine. Waking up early to make the case tomorrow. If anyone votes outside of those 3 players I will take it as an immediate scum claim.

[Seanald]

^ Agreed

[Jal]

only problem with that is, it means theres only 1 scum left. which im not sure makes sense given the size of the game. I've been thinking this over much more recently but there probably is a 3rd party as well, survivor, sk something

Oh, I've

definitely

thought about it since some of the actions in this game don't make sense from a scum point of view at the very least (GNR's poisoning, killing RBT). It also would explain the roundabout town reads. I can't find a third that would match this though.

Seanald is not scum MSH definitely tried to get a mislynch through on his ass with his investigation post flip.

I'm not sure if I'm following you here. MSH cleared Seanald early. MSH was trying to get a mislynch on the masons, that is obvious. Beyond that, I don't know what else scum had hoped to achieve with that false investigation result, except perhaps to have MSH around a night longer. If you're trying to say the point of D8 was for MSH to go down and incriminate Seanald post-flip, that doesn't much make sense either and the same could be argued for Peregrine as well.

I

really

wouldn't be surprised if scum thought that their little masons=scum gambit would actually pull through. Why else would MSH actually come out with a scum result like that? It

almost

could have worked, as even you voted for Lowman for a few moments, and others may have too if you didn't then hammer. If he thought he was actually going down, he could have continued his song and dance regarding not seeing his results pm indefinitely until one of us hammered when it started getting obvious. Instead, do you really think he would intentionally give us essentially

two

potential clears prior to the hammer and then scum would

kill

one over night just to eliminate any possibility of otherwise? I don't think so.

[Porochaz]

unvote vote Seanald