Open 455 - Tit for Tat - OVER

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'll take it that you are paranoid about getting counterclaimed.

Nope. I'd love to be. Because then we can 1 v 1 and with a Scum flip of said counter-claimer I'm both confirmed Town and scum are down one player.

Why are you too lazy to read a post that is hardly long? Is it a smoke-screen for you knowing you don't want to actually have to comment on what I posted?

[Shamrock]

Oh good, so the scum team is Nekoko/the director/??? (probably A_Potato)

This day was way easier than I thought it'd be.

[the director]

I'll take it that you are paranoid about getting counterclaimed.

Nope. I'd love to be. Because then we can 1 v 1 and with a Scum flip of said counter-claimer I'm both confirmed Town and scum are down one player.

Why are you too lazy to read a post that is hardly long? Is it a smoke-screen for you knowing you don't want to actually have to comment on what I posted?

I'm going to give myself a concussion with the amount of head slamming I'm currently doing.

Read. Between. The. Lines.

Still waiting for that short version, champ.

[Shamrock]

VOTE: the director

[the director]

VOTE: the director

You wanna out yourself as scum you go right ahead.

[Shamrock]

Confirm vote: the director

[the director]

Confirm vote: the director

Fair enough. You might want to start drawing up how you are going to start bussing guillie.

[Shamrock]

Why aren't you voting me if you think I'm scum?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Still waiting for that short version, champ.

Well expect to be waiting a long, long time (like forever).

If you aren't an Alt - this is my playstyle. It's not changing.
If you are an Alt (in which case you are Faraday most likely) - You probably have played with me and thus know it is a stupid request.

[the director]

Why aren't you voting me if you think I'm scum?

Cause I'm voting guille, durr.

[Messiah]

Vote Count 2.3

With nine alive it will take five to lynch.

L-2

Nekoko

- A_Potato, Lord Mhork, Disturbed_One

L-3

guille2015

- the director, Nekoko

L-3

the director

- MagnaofIllusion, Shamrock

MagnaofIllusion

-

Lord Mhork

-

A_Potato

-

Disturbed_One

-

Cheery Dog

-

Shamrock

-

Not Voting: guille2015, Cheery Dog

@Mod, if we get to 3v3 with both the jailkeeper and the vig alive, does the game continue going?

Yes, the game would continue.

Deadline in (expired on 2012-11-14 18:00:00).

[the director]

Still waiting for that short version, champ.

Well expect to be waiting a long, long time (like forever).

If you aren't an Alt - this is my playstyle. It's not changing.
If you are an Alt (in which case you are Faraday most likely) - You probably have played with me and thus know it is a stupid request.

You do realize that long posts from town are almost as bad as town injecting WIFOM into the game?

Besides short posts that boil down what you are trying to say are far more effective than posting long-winded posts that do nothing but confuse anyone trying to read them. Plus the game turns into homework, and eyes glass over. You don't want to post short posts for your reads? Fine. But you are kidding yourself if you are going to convince anyone but scum to vote for me.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You do realize that long posts from town are almost as bad as town injecting WIFOM into the game?

Besides short posts that boil down what you are trying to say are far more effective than posting long-winded posts that do nothing but confuse anyone trying to read them. Plus the game turns into homework, and eyes glass over. You don't want to post short posts for your reads? Fine. But you are kidding yourself if you are going to convince anyone but scum to vote for me.

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I appreciate you treating me as Town with this post but you've wasted a bunch of time making an MD post that means nothing. MafiaScum has had this "Long Posts are terrible / Spamming short posts are Terrible" style discussion many, many times before and there is no 'result' to be had. Your opinion on what is effective and what is not is just that ... opinion. Pretending otherwise is just plain bad.

[Shamrock]

Why aren't you voting me if you think I'm scum?

Cause I'm voting guille, durr.

Rather than the person who you say just "outed" himself as scum?

[Disturbed_One]

the director seems a bit scummy. MoI's arguments are valid as it is (yes, I read his post; no, it wasn't remotely difficult to do so), and then you have the fact Director is refusing to read a "wall" (which I do not like one bit) and then this OMGUS on Shamrock (who he's not even voting for).

The reason I don't like his refusal to read the wall, is because what if MoI's post, for the sake of argument, contained a massive, obvious scum tell. The Director would never catch this scum tell because he refused to read the post. I think this supports MoI's points -- for example trying to to claim Nekoko as obvtown and not focusing on the players wagoning Nekoko -- that the Director isn't really scum-hunting.

For now, I'm satisfied with the Nekoko lynch. Just some thoughts I had.

[guille2015]

I completely suspect that both nekoko and The Director are both mafia. Some hints here and there in their ISO, but today's action are pretty much clear to me.

Vote Director

[Lord Mhork]

Grr... IRL caught up with me. I'll get back to this later today, hopefully.

[the director]

I completely suspect that both nekoko and The Director are both mafia. Some hints here and there in their ISO, but today's action are pretty much clear to me.

Vote Director

Oh. My. God. U Suck.

Seriously though. You really are acting like a nervous scum.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So I looked yesterday with the fresh perspective of Klick, Grey and Bitmap being Town.

A bunch rides on Nekoko’s alignment in my opinion.

Looking at how the wagons formed and moved I can draw some conclusions.

If Nekoko is scum the Director and Distrubed would be my first stops. Venmar was highly focused on Nekoko but the Director swoops in and separates the Klick wagon from the Nekoko wagon when they were close. And Disturbed pretty much parked his vote on Nekoko until the point where Nekoko got to L-1 with much haste.

If Nekoko is Town then I want one of LordM and Potato’s heads on a platter today. Because both showed absolutely no interest in Nekoko yesterday while it was viable yet started off today immediately voting her. If she’s Town that means all the meaningful wagons of yesterday were Town and scum had little motivation to push strongly. Both LordM and Potato parked their votes on Bitmap (Post 321 and Post 355 respectively) and spent most of the rest of the day slapfighting each other.

Going to take some time this weekend to really look at Nekoko in light of all three flips and see where I come down.

[MagnaofIllusion]

UNVOTE: Director

[MagnaofIllusion]

MOD – I’ll be LA from pretty much now until Monday morning for my usual weekend V/LA

[Cheery Dog]

@MoI; I asked the question, as I believe that's why we shouldn't have the JK claim yet.
as for my read of director, I had a look over them during the night and they seemed less scummy.

My guess to the team at the moment is nekoko, mhork and possibly potato. although there is a chance director may be part of it still - I'm not completely sure.

[Disturbed_One]

The reason why I unvoted Nekoko was because I was convinced Klick was scum. He had that whole "1vs1" thing and that made him seem very scummy to me. In that moment, I was more convinced that Klick was scum rather than Nekoko.

[Nekoko]

So, basically, here you are saying that Nekoko is town for his desperation in self preservation? The odd thing about it that it was the 2nd vote. Town self preservation usually votes for the player with an equal chance of getting lynched, which would have been bitmap at the time. The difference here is that Nekoko kept saying that Venmar was town, hence his vote for Klick, which he could have also gone for MoI. There is something odd in all that reaction. No, I am very comfortable with my Vote intent.

What do you mean I kept saying Venmar was town??
I think Bitmap was more town than Klick so obviously I went with Klick.

@Nekoko – You were at L-1. Why didn’t you claim? Guile had already expressed intention to vote you.

I wait until someone says "I intent to hammer"
I thought it's standard here.

And besides Cheery's vote on me was because he misread my post.

[Nekoko]

I completely suspect that both nekoko and The Director are both mafia.

Some hints here and there in their ISO, but today's action are pretty much clear to me.

Elaborate please