Mafia 158: Titanium. Game over

[dividizzle]

Dear Buldermar,

An example of a forgotten or ignored possibility from your post is that TBM is scum and I am town.

[mykonian]

votecount

hiraki (2): Thebuttonmen, smashbard
thebuttonmen (2): 10506670, pappums rat
buldermar (1): NJAC
dividizzle (1): buldermar


not voting (2): dividizzle, hiraki

With 8 players it is 5 to lynch (4 to no lynch)

deadline is november the fifteenth

@buldermar. I am aware, it has been a night, I did prod him yesterday, which he hasn't picked up and am currently looking around for a replacement.

[TheButtonmen]

Nobody wants to replace into a 71 page game.

We can fix this.

[TheButtonmen]

(I'm saying lynch Hikari)

[mykonian]

Nobody wants to replace into a 71 page game.

We can fix this.

Unless...

It's someone who laughs about danger. Who has no fear.

who reads 70 pages in under 5 minutes.

Who is this brave man?

Greygnarl replaces Hiraki

[TheButtonmen]

Do I need to revote or does my vote transfer over to the new scum?

[buldermar]

@buldermar. I am aware, it has been a night, I did prod him yesterday, which he hasn't picked up and am currently looking around for a replacement.

I'm sorry, I thought you had not.

[buldermar]

Do I need to revote or does my vote transfer over to the new scum?

10/10 comment

[mykonian]

The votes stay where they are.

[greygnarl]

You guys have sucked really hard this game. We have lynched town every fucking day! No matter what anybody else says TBM is scummy as hell. If you have somebody as a definite scumread you don't hammer somebody else with 12 days to deadline.
VOTE: TBM

BTW pappums is town

[TheButtonmen]

Hello new scum.

[pappums rat]

TBM claims that Hiraki just brushed over the fact that the VC thing was wrong here:

It's harder to act more scum then this exchange.

Notice he just dismisses it and still keeping riding the Mae lynch.

And Hiraki did just that here:

You got me for the least important point of my points on Maenara.

Oh welp. You got me.

I dont think this is scummy because at the same time he tells TBM that he was voting Maenara for other, more important reasons. When TBM voted Hiraki for not reading the game, Hiraki made that post and essentially gave TBM the finger because he was nitpicking a small detail like that. A point that I want to make is this: not reading the thread closely is not a universal scumtell. Uninterested town do it all the time, and they make errors like that one that Hiraki made. TBM looks like scum to me for taking this one small thing and blowing it way out of proportion and tunnelling Hiraki nonstop ever since while contributing nothing else. His quickhammer on Maenara after two RL days (who he didnt have a scumread on) without pushing Hiraki at all that day bolsters the scumread on him. Add to that his refusal to interact with me and explain his hammer on Maenara is the final nail in the coffin. I am an experienced player who is not going to change my mind so easily because of shoddy yet still believable reasons, and he refuses to answer my questions. Yet when less experienced people ask him questions, he gives them what they want because he thinks that they are more likely to be swayed by his faulty logic. This is scummy. When a player refuses to answer one person's questions and does so for another, this is a surefire scumtell, especially when there is an experience gap like there is in this game. TBM is scum. Lynching him is the best chance we have at hitting scum and having a shot at winning this.

[Smashbard]

Welcome Greygnarl. Thank you for stating the obvious that we've sucked this game.

Guys, the reason I don't believe TBM to be scum here is because he's been a lone wolf the entire game. He hasn't worked with anybody, tried to confirm anybody until just now, and has provided just enough scumreads to get by. If he's scum, he's damn good scum that's perfected the art of distancing. I just don't see it.

TBM, what do you and I do now? It doesn't look like the rest of the town is going to go along with a Hiraki lynch. I'm with you, but at the end of the day we need a target that a majority is going to agree on.

Or we can No Lynch. That'll give us one more day phase if there is 3 scum. With 7 alive, we could still lynch scum, and if they kill another person (me, the last Mason) then there is a chance we can actually draw more conclusive, well, conclusions on who the scum team are.

[TheButtonmen]

TBM, what do you and I do now?It doesn't look like the rest of the town is going to go along with a Hiraki lynch.

Lynch Greygnarl.

[buldermar]

Or we can No Lynch.

This is pointless when we have no investigation roles.

[buldermar]

VOTE: TBM

Let's do this little trick one more time.
L-1.

[buldermar]

Dear Buldermar,

An example of a forgotten or ignored possibility from your post is that TBM is scum and I am town.

That possibility is utterly unrelated to the matter because there is no way to disconfirm/confirm it. I deduced what could be deduced from you not hammering, nothing more, nothing less.

[Hiraki]

If Greygnarl doesn't want to deal with this, I can come back in.

Power outage lasted until late last night, sorry.

[dividizzle]

@Smash, I could be on board for a Hiraki lynch. Ever since I started thinking about people getting quicklynched, I am nervous about voting someone to a point where scum could jump on. Also, as it is obvious that you would be killed at night, we wouldn't gain much from that new information.

[greygnarl]

The fact that Smash is confirmed town is pretty ridiculous, he's been lynching town all game and now he thinks we should believe what he has to say because his mason buddy died. JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE CONFTOWN DOESN'T MEANS YOU ARE RIGHT.

@Hiraki Wanna hydra? If mykonian says it's okay I'd love to do it. Mykonian read this.

[mykonian]

As long as the slot is filled I don't really care how. You two come to a sensible decision.

[Smashbard]

And just because I have been wrong in the past that doesn't ban me from forever being listened to the in the future nor does it guarantee that I am going to be wrong every time going forward. Continuing this line of thinking is scummy, because you are trying to actively discredit the only confirmed town player in the game by saying "Look everybody, he's been wrong all game, let's not listen to the ONLY CONFIRMED TOWN PLAYER IN THE GAME because we are all totally blameless for our own votes, it's all Smashbards fault!"

You all need to start taking some fucking responsibility for your playerslots lynches and votes, because you CANNOT in good conscience place all the blame for every single lynch on one player. Especially since that player hasn't been the hammer EVERY TIME. Anyone who does so going forward is scum and I refuse to join any wagons they are on.

[greygnarl]

But you're inferring that people should be sheeping you because of your conftownness. Sorry, but that's not how it works. If you make an accurate case then I would believe you but being conftown doesn't mean it's a good idea to sheep you.

[buldermar]

UNVOTE:

[buldermar]

VOTE: TBM