Alright. First, I'll read through the game and point out what I see that stands out. Then, I may go through a few people's posts using the "Display posts by user" feature.
I find it strange that Abaddon, in Post #17, points out that he thinks Radelle is overdoing it while Parama's post had a tone that was much more fake. I've read some of Parama's games, and he normally acts like that, but I still find it a little weird that he called Radelle out, but not Parama. Then later, in Post #21, his accusation on Cheery of "obvious chainsawing" are unwarranted, as Cheery didn't really defend Radelle or make a very serious attack on Abaddon. Add to that that he's the only person that really stands out to me on Page 1, and I have an early suspect.
toxic's Post #32 upsets me. First, he says "RVS is over." Then, he doesn't really comment on the recent happenings, but instead attacks someone who didn't comment on the recent happenings. That's a hypocritical attack.
In post 33, Radelle wrote:You say this like it's just an example of a plausible scenario, but I'm getting the impression by you saying you think it's deliberate that you actually think this. So,
am I right that you actually think Abaddon is my scum buddy
or why else do you think he was being deliberate by not voting me?
The bolded sentence is said in a tense that makes it look like Radelle knows that Cheery is town.
I really like Tommy's point in Post #37. Radelle's questions didn't really seem to have reason to them.
Cheery in Page 2 seems insistent on keeping his scum read on Abaddon after many admitted flaws in his logic were pointed out. I really can't see why he would be that way as town.
I really like the part in Sable's Post #57 about playing Devil's Advocate. It's not something that people will normally call town-like, seeing as no one mentioned it, but at the same time, it seems like a really unlikely position to fake as scum.
toxic's Post #61 was generally useless and out-of-place compared to things he had posted previously. Abaddon clearly wins their little tiff after that.
I like Abaddon's conclusion in Post #66. I agree with it, and I think it is another unlikely stance for scum to try and take.
I
really
don't like toxic's Post #67. He's completely avoiding the topic with Abaddon. He also bothered to comment on many other things before that. However, if he actually does end up commenting on it and has a decent reason to stall, he's probably town.
In post 68, Radelle wrote:@Tommy
:
In post 37, Tommy wrote:This appears to be some sort of logical pedantry about and/or vs either/or. I can't see what Radelle hopes to get out of it.
I wanted a definitive read since he was slowly creeping his way to a scum read on Cheery without actually directly stating so. He makes the distinction that Cheery can't be both scum or an idiot (which doesn't make sense), but notice how he doesn't make the distinction of Cheery being a
Village Idiot
. That read was leaving itself open.
This seems a bit far-fetched.
Ah, there we go - toxic has a reason for stalling. It's totally legit, and toxic's town. However, he had the huge reason that had to do with scumhunting and all sorts of stuff, but he never drew any conclusions from his plan. It was pretty much useless. It's more of a sign of poor play than scumminess.
Here's why Jacob is town. Everyone is posting their reads and contributing to the thread. Then, suddenly, Jacob comes along in Post #91 and basically says that he has no reads, and that he needs to create a spreadsheet for this game. I really doubt that he's bold enough to do this and expect to get away with it as scum. I also doubt that this is due to bad scum play - in that case, he would likely be attacking
someone
. Therefore, he must be town who genuinely lost in this game - understandable, as that is how I felt about this game at first. He also makes a spreadsheet that looks like it had some serious time and effort put into it. Again, if he's too lazy to fake reads as scum, he's not going to be making some badass spreadsheet. That's why Jacob was and is at the top of my town list. I expect there to be some nice reactions to his play here, though.
Tommy's Post #107 is really good. He's encouraging Jacob to scumhunt, something which does nothing but hurt the scum win condition by allowing people to get an accurate read on Jacob, and if Jacob is town, allowing him to find the scum more easily.
Idiot's Post #108 attack on Parama is filled with words, but lousy.
Nothing
he accused Parama of is really indicative of scum, and most of it is Parama's playstyle.
Slandaar, as of Page 5, is being a bit of a spectator. He's commenting on random tidbits here and there, but never really states a conclusion. I have a problem with that.
Post #115 is a town post from a guy who doesn't really know what he's talking about. This is kinda weak reasoning, but he's making a big case on the weak player - and it looks genuine. Scum usually can't manage that.
Note: Parama replaced out.
Using his inactivity to call him scum will not work. Post #119 by Cheery was a terrible vote for that reason.
Reads lists are usually bad things to make as scum because they establish connections with everybody. That is why Abaddon's #121 is a towntell. Even if he is calling out my slot.
Post #129 is good as well, in that he naturally but regretfully defends Parama.
I'm a bit too tired to finish the rest of this tonight. I'll start at Post #130 tomorrow. I still like where my vote is.
