Micro 70 ~ Mafia in Triplicate (Game Over!)

[Nobody Special]

@NS

, no response to me calling our your claim based on you providing a definition of Rarefaction that doesn't jive with what we now know it to be?

I have no response. I know what my Role PM says (and what it

doesn't

say) and I really can't offer anything else. It's weird, and I see the position you guys are taking with it, but what else can I do?

[Konowa]

saul, your setup speculation is broken. Or do you disagree with my assessment that scum knowing would have too much mod interference?

Of course I'm not straight vanilla. I have information in my role, but no additional abilities. Role name is Tarhalindur, Pandora over Mafia.

[Shamrock]

@NS

, no response to me calling our your claim based on you providing a definition of Rarefaction that doesn't jive with what we now know it to be?

I have no response. I know what my Role PM says (and what it

doesn't

say) and I really can't offer anything else. It's weird, and I see the position you guys are taking with it, but what else can I do?

So can I interpret the fact that you haven't used it yet as a scum claim?

[saulres]

saul, your setup speculation is broken.

Possibly. Only game end will tell.

Or do you disagree with my assessment that scum knowing would have too much mod interference?

I do. You still haven't told us what your foreshadowing knowledge contained, and until you tell me my mind's going to conduct its own wild speculation. I do that.

Oh and BTW, I never said they knew that the game would be split into three cells. I said "The only ones I can think of who would have [knowledge that something is going to happen at the end of day 1] are scum." You indicated you had some information, but you

still

haven't shared that information, just a role name. I'm still waiting.

Speaking of you being a VT with a role name...

@Everybody

: Does anybody else claiming VT have a role name?

[Tierce]

Speaking of you being a VT with a role name...

@Everybody: Does anybody else claiming VT have a role name?

He's not a VT, and his role name is perfectly fine with Vi-spec.

[saulres]

But he's claiming vanilla. Maybe vanilla goon?

What's "Vi-spec"? (Sorry, I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or disagreeing.)

[Tierce]

No, he's not claiming vanilla. He's saying he has no other ability but that knowledge. It's a passive ability.

Vi-spec: Vi game speculation. Yes, I am disagreeing with you.

[saulres]

Oh okay.

Do you care that he should specify exactly

what

information he has? Because he's not doing that. Or have I missed it?

[Tierce]

What makes you think he has more concrete information than what he provided already?

[saulres]

Shoot.

It's because I remember him saying he knew "something", and when I was ISOing Xalxe/the director I saw Xalxe say "If it helps town, share" so I thought he hadn't provided all the information. In rereading his initial claim, I see he said (in the second post, not the first) that that's all he had.

So that's a dead end.

[saulres]

I have to think what this means for NS's role. This changes a lot of stuff.

Have you given any thought to this, and come up with a conclusion?

[Tierce]

It still makes no sense at all. It cannot work in the current format of the game--and if used before it, it would completely throw off the game. In addition, I know he hasn't had some kind of weird use of it on me (i.e. that my LyLo cell hasn't been tampered with), as I have had my role from the start. NS is scum.

[saulres]

So does your preferred order to do the lynches match with mine?

First NS. If he flips scum, then the director. If he flips town, then it's to your cell.
IF NS flips town, more work for me, F-16, and the director, then your cell if we're still going?

[Tierce]

Actually disagree. First NS. If he flips Town, my cell is next--50/50 chance is better than 33/67 chance. By that time, if I'm silenced, it won't matter because it will be a loss, so...

[saulres]

Oh right. I was thinking mine because from my POV it's a 50-50 (if random). But NS first is the key. If we can all agree on that, then that cell's flip would open up associative tells.

[Tierce]

Still: no lynching before I go through meta, please.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I agree with the plan (lynch NS first). If NS is town, Tierce/Empire/Konowa go next. If NS flips scum, me/Saulres/TheDirector go next.

Pedit: sure.

[Shamrock]

Don't really see any reason to drag out the NS lynch - came into this thread intending to vote, actually, but I guess I can wait a little while.

[Tierce]

Don't really see any reason to drag out the NS lynch

Because I have a bloody stupid power complex, that's why.

(I have control issues. And a puppy. And why yes I

do

have to do everything. Give me a day or so.)

[Shmugen]

I'm keeping my eye on the thread so that when Tierce is ready we can resume, but it'll be a day or two until I can do concrete digging on the other cells.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The more I think about it, the less I am comfortable with Empire being so certain that I am town. He essentially agreed with most of what I said, although by itself not a scumtell, the overall nature that he doesn't suspect me even a bit is unsettling.

[Shamrock]

Idk you're a pretty strong townread for me too (although Empire could still be scum, the Empire/Konowa pool is the one I'm the least certain of)

[Tierce]

Mmkay.

Feel free to lynch NS.

[Shamrock]

klezzgo

VOTE: NS

[Vi]

Actually, let me just grab this page...