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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:23 pm

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Well, this post:

In post 330, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:I'm pretty sure you haven't stolen anyone's vote as there'd not be 7 votes out already, zoid.


Said to me that we weren't so concerned about that. Also a Mist vote should be just as much evidence as a whoever vote, shouldn't it? I would assume nobody made me a doublevoter, and since I know I didn't steal someone's vote my conscience is clear in this regard.

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:41 pm

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@Zoidberg:
1)Very good point. Siv is absolutely right. Your vote is definitely a singleton and it also means no one stole your vote either. Unless, you stole someone's vote and someone stole yours, but I doubt that sort of thing very much.
2) If there still had been a question about votes, Mist would have been a horrible place to put your vote, since a) others are voting her already and b) someone moved away from her before you voted her but after the previous vote.
3) Your vote was on me before Mist, not Siv.

@Hawk and Siv: Your biggest scumread seems to be Emp. Who would his most likely partner be?

@Emp, scream and Zoidberg: Same question; who would her most likely partner be?

@Mist: You're voting qwints. Was his explanation for why he voted you inadequate? Is he still scummy? Is there someone scummier?

@qwints: You moved off Mist. Any reads since then?
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:56 pm

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In post 351, Mitillos wrote:Your vote was on me before Mist, not Siv.


So it was. I just picked someone who was in no danger of being lynched at the time; shows you how much thought I put into it beyond that.

who would her most likely partner be?
Gut says it's Siv, but I'd prefer not to do a great deal of partner-speculation until we actually have a confirmed scum.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:02 pm

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Good point, again.
You don't have ambiguity; you have
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:49 pm

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Ok since this is such 'scummy reasoning' right here I guess I should do examples
[insert name] might be scum, but I don't think pressuring him would make him scream I admit I am scum.

If he were to say I admit I am scum, then would you vote him?


of course with your imagination you could think of more.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:42 am

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In post 345, ProHawk wrote:
In post 344, Empking wrote:The target dies when they make their first post can get round BPness.

HFOS: Pro


So this is your explanation as to why you made yourself "untargetable"? Whats with the OMGUS? I am not being dishonest, I am posting my thoughts. For the record this is my first Lucid Dreamers game.


The "OMGUS" is for you suggesting I'd be better off making myself bulletproff when it isn't true.

Mit: Siv is the obvious one, and I'll go with that.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:18 am

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@Mist: I am not sure what post 354 is supposed to be telling me. Could you clarify?
You don't have ambiguity; you have
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:20 am

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In post 356, Mitillos wrote:@Mist: I am not sure what post 354 is supposed to be telling me. Could you clarify?


Ways somebody could say "I am scum" without claiming scum.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:39 am

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Oh. Alright.
You don't have ambiguity; you have
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:16 am

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Not buying it.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:02 am

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In post 351, Mitillos wrote:@Hawk and Siv: Your biggest scumread seems to be Emp. Who would his most likely partner be?


Speaking for myself, I've hit the brick wall of no reads and no motivation. Um...

Also, I'd probably have just lurked megahard were I to I admit I am scum.

Emp, why am I the obvious scum? Based on night actions, unless I'm lying about siteflaking (which I'm not), I'm scum with mitillos if I'm scum, and mist did some weird stuff to me, or I'm scum with mist and lied about siteflaking

Also, why lie about a siteflake as scum?

(Massive WIFOM, but this WIFOM is a big and unnecessary risk for scum. Seriously).

Anyway. To get at least a little bit of a read.

VOTE: Zoidberg
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:04 am

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In post 360, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Emp, why am I the obvious scum? Based on night actions, unless I'm lying about siteflaking (which I'm not), I'm scum with mitillos if I'm scum, and mist did some weird stuff to me, or I'm scum with mist and lied about siteflaking


Why does being scum with have to involve you lyinng about siteflaking?



Also, why lie about a siteflake as scum?


If you tried to kill me then you'd have issues.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:21 am

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In post 360, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:
In post 351, Mitillos wrote:@Hawk and Siv: Your biggest scumread seems to be Emp. Who would his most likely partner be?


Speaking for myself, I've hit the brick wall of no reads and no motivation. Um...

Also, I'd probably have just lurked megahard were I to I admit I am scum.

Emp, why am I the obvious scum? Based on night actions, unless I'm lying about siteflaking (which I'm not), I'm scum with mitillos if I'm scum, and mist did some weird stuff to me, or I'm scum with mist and lied about siteflaking

Also, why lie about a siteflake as scum?

(Massive WIFOM, but this WIFOM is a big and unnecessary risk for scum. Seriously).

Anyway. To get at least a little bit of a read.

VOTE: Zoidberg


Maybe I just need my mid-day coffee but I've read this post three times and still really not sure what Siv is trying to say.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:22 am

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In post 360, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Speaking for myself, I've hit the brick wall of no reads and no motivation. Um...


If you've hit this point you should ask the mod to replace you.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:31 am

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In post 361, Empking wrote:
In post 360, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Emp, why am I the obvious scum? Based on night actions, unless I'm lying about siteflaking (which I'm not), I'm scum with mitillos if I'm scum, and mist did some weird stuff to me, or I'm scum with mist and lied about siteflaking


Why does being scum with have to involve you lyinng about siteflaking?


If I did no night action due to siteflake, why did mitsy come up with innocent on me unless somebody else disrupted it / he was scum. And if scum planned on both just self-godfathering. Well yeah, I was here at the start of the night for that to sortof work, but I didn't plan on the siteflake.

PEdit: I make all my reads up as I go along anyway. And they're never coherent. Yeah, I'm never a help to town unless it's a breakable setup.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:38 am

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In post 364, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Yeah, I'm never a help to town unless it's a breakable setup.


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That's three times now you've basically flat-out said you're dead weight. That is not town motivated.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:46 am

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In post 364, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:If I did no night action due to siteflake, why did mitsy come up with innocent on me unless somebody else disrupted it / he was scum. And if scum planned on both just self-godfathering. Well yeah, I was here at the start of the night for that to sortof work, but I didn't plan on the siteflake.


Oh forgot about that.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:07 am

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Er, yeah zoid. Is it scum-motivated either? It happens as town who isn't really taking things very seriously.

Anyway, I'm sortof reading somewhat scummy on zoid.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:11 am

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In post 367, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Er, yeah zoid. Is it scum-motivated either? It happens as town who isn't really taking things very seriously.
I'm sorry, are you trying to play your lack of participation as pro-town?
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:12 am

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In post 367, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Anyway, I'm sortof reading somewhat scummy on zoid.
Ah yes, that standard tactic.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:04 pm

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Zoid is town.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:08 pm

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@Pro: Go on.
You don't have ambiguity; you have
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:16 pm

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Zoid and Scream cleared each other. The likelihood of them both being scum is low because that one string of actions connects both of them and they either have to be both scum or both town. Therefore I won't support a Zoid or Scream lynch today.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:26 pm

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So you doubt that, for example, I didn't investigate Siv and instead godfathered scream, or something? Or turning it around, you could have done that, or even qwints or Emp.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:42 pm

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Perhaps I shouldn't be looking into non-confirmable actions so closely... but I still feel like the likelihood being fairly low regarding those two.

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