Micro 71: Lucid Dreamers - Night 4

[Zoidberg]

Also, delayed kill is what I was considering setting up as town... Um, when I get to the scum possibilities I shiver in dread.

What?

[qwints]

Siveure: no action

Empking: made himself untargeteable

qwints: made Mist reflective

Mist: post-restricted Siveure

Mitillos: investigated Siveure - got innocent

ProHawk: made himself a bomb

Scream: investigated Zoidberg - got innocent

Zoidberg: investigated Scream - got innocent

PH, why did you choose bomb?

[Zoidberg]

Also, delayed kill is what I was considering setting up as town... Um, when I get to the scum possibilities I shiver in dread.

What?

Seriously... can you explain what you mean by this?

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um, why should I?

[Zoidberg]

Um, why should I?

Because clarity and transparency are pro-town.

Are you saying you were going to set up a delayed kill on N1, not having any investigation info available?

[ProHawk]

Bomb was to kill any scum that decided to NK me.

[Siveure DtTrikyp]

Um, why should I?

Because clarity and transparency are pro-town.

Are you saying you were going to set up a delayed kill on N1, not having any investigation info available?

Oh, right. I'll keep the setup spec to myself, and the planned actions out.

I was going to setup a vig on somebody that could be activated in any future phase I liked (similar to arsonist in the wiki, I think), and give it to the town as to when to do it. I quickly decided that was a bad idea, and I should make myself a dayvig and give the choice to the town. I then figured daycop, and give the investigation to the town.

Prohawk's action is townish. It deals with the kills, and goes alright on everything else.

[Mitillos]

@Hawk: Did you have any reason to suspect that you might be killed? Also, wouldn't they roleblock you first, making your bomb action meaningless?

[Mist7676]

Siveure: no action

Empking: made himself untargeteable

qwints: made Mist reflective

Mist: post-restricted Siveure

Mitillos: investigated Siveure - got innocent

ProHawk: made himself a bomb

Scream: investigated Zoidberg - got innocent

Zoidberg: investigated Scream - got innocent

PH, why did you choose bomb?

Ok on this list the people I would be up for a lynch today would be, (in order) scream, qwints, and zoid.

Qwints. my reasoning is in my ISO.
Scream - I don't like the way he tried to point out that siv's post restriction was flawed. If he truly went back and actually counted the posts he would have noticed he was wrong. Even after the mod posted. he still claims Siv should be dead. Plus that zoid cross investigation is kind of weird. I want to account it on a coincidence, but it seems to setup.
Zoid - Mostly because of his Night 1 play. but also the cross-investigation.

@Scream and Zoid, why did you choose to investigate the other? Was there any reasoning behind the action?

And I would like to end this with an UNVOTE: Qwints and a VOTE: Scream

[qwints]

I want to see where a scream wagon takes us. Their lack of content today bothers me.

VOTE: screamlampost

[ProHawk]

@Hawk: Did you have any reason to suspect that you might be killed? Also, wouldn't they roleblock you first, making your bomb action meaningless?

What exactly are you trying to imply?

[Mitillos]

@Hawk: No need to be so defensive. The first question is not implying anything. I assumed that you had someone in mind who would target you and was asking who that was. The second one is implying that your action may not have been optimal. Response?

[Zoidberg]

@Scream and Zoid, why did you choose to investigate the other? Was there any reasoning behind the action?

I simply chose someone I felt unlikely to be the target of a kill, and also unlikely to be the target of jailkeepers/etc.

[ProHawk]

@Hawk: No need to be so defensive. The first question is not implying anything. I assumed that you had someone in mind who would target you and was asking who that was. The second one is implying that your action may not have been optimal. Response?

You are on a run of scenarios with reasoning that any night action would be futile. As I already stated, with unlimited possibilities, there is no way to conceivably have an optimal action that could not be thwarted by scum. Your action wouldn't have even required a role block and would have allowed scum to make a kill and then another action. I would also argue that your action may have been as sub-optimal as mine.

I think its easy to judge after the fact, hindsight is after all 20/20. The way I see it, if scum would have wanted me dead, they would have to use up two of their actions to accomplish it. If I could tie up both scum in order to draw a kill, I would gladly do it even if it meant that my bomb wouldn't have worked. If they wanted to risk it, then it would be their loss.

I don't think that looking at night actions will be as concrete of evidence until we see some role-card flips.

I thought my reads were pretty good, and I might have been killed because of it.

[Mitillos]

Except that they wouldn't know I wasn't protecting myself, so they'd still waste an action, roleblocking me, in a sense. But yeah, in a sense, I agree with your point about tying them both. And alright, if you didn't have a specific person in mind for killing you, beyond your previous reads, that's fair enough.

So, we're at 3 wagons. I still think Emp is town. Scream: are you scum again, bro?

Vote: Scream

[Zoidberg]

mod, can we have a vote count please?

[screamlampost]

Me and the other head kind of discussed it and decided to choose Zoid by rulling out everyone else. As for the night action we made, I just thought it was painfully obvious that it was what town should last night, but seems it was not quite that way.
And that is L-1.

@Mitillos: ?

~m a.k.a. Head #2

[Mitillos]

Pretty sure it's actually L-2. That VC would be nice.

[T-Bone]

Vote Count

Mist7676 - 3 (Empking, ScreamIampost, Zoidberg)
Empking - 2 (ProHawk, Siveure DtTrikyp)
ScreamIampost - 3 (Mist7676, qwints, Mitillos)

Not Voting - 0

Activity Check - All ok

Deadline is

TONIGHT

Thursday November 15th, 8:59pm EST

With 8 Alive, it Takes 5 to Lynch

[Empking]

Can one of the Empking voters pick a three man wagon. Deadline is tonight.

[ProHawk]

Both wagons seem like town to me. What are the arguments for their lynch?

[Mitillos]

The thing is, I've got a town read on Empking. Is it likely that all 3 wagons are on town? And the scream one was a bit of a spurious one, to see what would happen, but there wasn't much of a reaction.

Unvote

Vote: Mist

Her action makes more sense coming from scum than town, if only very slightly.

[Mitillos]

And obviously, that's L-1, in case anyone doesn't look at the votecount.

[qwints]

There's enough that bothers me about the post restriction to hammer.

UNVOTE: Scream
VOTE: Mist7676

[qwints]

V/LA Starting tonight until Sunday. I will be able to get my night action in.