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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:56 am

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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:00 am

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In post 324, Cerulean wrote:Regfan, I'm on my lunch break right now but since you're painfully obviously town let me give you an offer. I'll put up my meta-based case on Tierce/Vi tonight and see if you agree with it or not. Basically, the thrust of my argument is that the way Tierce constructed her case against Piggy in #79 is far more likely to come from her as scum than as town. Same with Vi's #259. If you're still not as confident in them flipping scum, I'll ask Tammy if she's willing to switch along with you and Thor to Voided considering we also have them as a strong scumread.

Tammy and I had the same reaction to Tierce's post that Faraday did which is why we feel really strongly about them flipping scum.

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Sorry. We don't negotiate with terrorists. And by terrorists of course I mean Americans. (Sure, hit me. I'm okay with this offer since. Their posts are more amusing than voided's, which is my only reservation)
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:00 am

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In post 323, Justin Timberlake wrote:Faraday was meant to be 'back' from whenever he vanished to by now so we can finish talking about reads but it's now 4am and I'm caving and need a few hours sleep at least so here's where I'm at right now, Faraday can just post his own thoughts and I'll talk with him tomorrow at some point.

I legit spent half an hour looking for a pair of boxers. It was awful.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:04 am

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How scummy would it be of me to flip my read on Voided? Because Justin Timberlake's (love that username xD) argument is swaying me :/ I don't think I'll cry if he gets lynched anymore.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:05 am

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Not scummy at all. You should vote him now. I'll call you town without reading your posts if you do.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:08 am

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In post 127, Soul2277 wrote:Well it was worth something. Responses and asking to that felt genuine so currently a weak town read.

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How could her stating facts about a previous game not 'feel genuine?' I mean unless she was lying it would be genuine. (I'm building up to a scumread on you Uh oh!!!!!)
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:12 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:30 am

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In post 322, Thor665 wrote:Yeah, y'know, the one that *proves* he's reading these posts as you defend him from me?
Y'know, the guy who has been voting him for a while while Voided has not even so much as burped in my direction?

How is a vote not more than a burp?

Besides, ever since I did vote you I haven't seen you try to tell me otherwise, so unless you also have some bigger case hidden out among your posts beyond my vote, your case is laughably small and laughably terrible.

In post 329, Justin Timberlake wrote:Not scummy at all. You should vote him now. I'll call you town without reading your posts if you do.

Yes, totally give her a free ride without actually doing more to explain why she had a townread on me in the first place.

You disappoint me, Faraday.

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- His inital attack on Absta in is horrendous, questioning him over the purpose of stating 'well omgus' and his 'why is equinox a better wagon than you' aren't questions that lead to any real alignment indicicative response,

To the first, I simply wanted to know why in the world he was putting quotes around the phrase because it made no sense to do that. There's no point in trying to pretty up words by 'quoting' them at all.

To the second, it wasn't designed to get a response from him. He called Equi scummy for voting Piggy without reasons, yet he did the same to Equi. I'm just pointing out that he's just as scummy for it.

they're questions that are blatant filler and instead of looking at motivation behind abstas actions he's construing them as scummy

Already debunked this for one question (the other one actually does, btw.)

without moving his vote across giving himself future options which is what scum need in nightless.

Is there a reason why I should move a vote to another scumread when this second scumread is a lesser/equal scumread to the scum I'm already voting? I guess I can understand the reason of "moving my suspicions around and making them clear" but I already denoted such in post 60. If I still saw Piggy as the scummier player at that point, why move it?

He soft sets up for Equinox too in .

Elaborate.

to top it of though he moves and votes Thor in because Thor voted based of gut which is somehow scummier than all of his other two and a bit scum-reads.

Exaggeration. The vote on Thor was pressure to get him to actually do more that say "lolcounterwagons" when voting me. His continued avoidance of doing so is why he's a scumread to me now.

the only two town reads in it are Sixty over something I really can't understand or agree with

I agree with the case and I don't find it contrived. You don't. Sorry we're not on the same wavelength.

and Jesse which has somewhat of a caveat in it.

Jesse's still a townread overall, though.

As for N and Equi, I said why they were null. With N he's still more or less null because he dropped off the map now, and for Equi I have you to consider now.

There's really no scumhunting and motivation hunting involved by him at all, just a lot of noise and back and forths.

Meh, I'll admit that I skimmed over Thor's ego-esque arguments with Cerulean and Sixty, as that's all it really looked like to me.

Also the absolute most important point that makes him scum is one that Faraday pointed out to me and I somehow missed, he has the word mafia in his name.

Bravo. You caught me. *slow clap*

That being said, though, I am in dire need of a reread.
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:32 am

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In post 332, Voidedmafia wrote:Yes, totally give her a free ride without actually doing more to explain why she had a townread on me in the first place.

Do you find her switch scummy?
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:35 am

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Voided: Claim in your next post.
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:39 am

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In post 259, Sixty wrote:And this is factually incorrect and at the recent forefront of a steady stream of terrible attempts to push on this slot.

Yeah honestly their attempt at bussing you is actually really garbage and they voted you for a bad reason.

of course i'm a funny troll guy xd and don't really know what I'm talking about since I only skimmed their iso looking for their vote.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:52 am

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To the first, I simply wanted to know why in the world he was putting quotes around the phrase because it made no sense to do that. There's no point in trying to pretty up words by 'quoting' them at all.

To the second, it wasn't designed to get a response from him. He called Equi scummy for voting Piggy without reasons, yet he did the same to Equi. I'm just pointing out that he's just as scummy for it.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:50 am

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In post 333, Justin Timberlake wrote:
In post 332, Voidedmafia wrote:Yes, totally give her a free ride without actually doing more to explain why she had a townread on me in the first place.

Do you find her switch scummy?

I find the fact that earlier she's like "oh, wow, uh, Voided's really good at being a townie" and then flips to "oh, yeah, Voided's scum" with just a flick of your wrist to be more like she's pandering to you rather than honestly having a change in read on me. So yes, I find it scummy. Considering that I also didn't quite understand what Piggy was trying to say in regards to how she got a townread on me in the first place, it feels more like she was trying to find a reason to call me town while waiting for a reason to switch to a scumread.

In post 334, Justin Timberlake wrote:Voided: Claim in your next post.

Do you see an intent to hammer anywhere? I don't.

Absta, start making more sense, will you? I can't respond if I don't even understand what you're saying.
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:52 am

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In post 332, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 322, Thor665 wrote:Yeah, y'know, the one that *proves* he's reading these posts as you defend him from me?
Y'know, the guy who has been voting him for a while while Voided has not even so much as burped in my direction?

How is a vote not more than a burp?

Hurm, I'd forgotten that.
Okay, we'll go back to just 'beard' for now then.

In post 332, Voidedmafia wrote:Besides, ever since I did vote you I haven't seen you try to tell me otherwise, so unless you also have some bigger case hidden out among your posts beyond my vote, your case is laughably small and laughably terrible.

In my defense for that - you actually never pressured me, never asked anyone else to vote me, and then switched your vote to Absta, so I'm not sure why it should hang heavy on me.

In post 332, Voidedmafia wrote:Exaggeration. The vote on Thor was pressure to get him to actually do more that say "lolcounterwagons" when voting me. His continued avoidance of doing so is why he's a scumread to me now.

You honestly think there was pressure happening there?
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:59 am

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In post 338, Thor665 wrote:Hurm, I'd forgotten that.
Okay, we'll go back to just 'beard' for now then.

So your case is marginally more terrible now that it's also not wrong?

In my defense for that - you actually never pressured me, never asked anyone else to vote me, and then switched your vote to Absta, so I'm not sure why it should hang heavy on me.

Perhaps I was remiss in pushing the point, but the call for votes was going to happen after you explained.

In post 332, Voidedmafia wrote:Exaggeration. The vote on Thor was pressure to get him to actually do more that say "lolcounterwagons" when voting me. His continued avoidance of doing so is why he's a scumread to me now.

You honestly think there was pressure happening there?[/quote]
Apparantly not <_<. I do know that I've stated before that your entire case was "lolcounterwagons," though. I guess you were ignoring that?

You still have a chance to explain yourself.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:03 am

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In post 339, Voidedmafia wrote:Perhaps I was remiss in pushing the point, but the call for votes was going to happen after you explained.

No it wasn't - you voted me after I explained.

In post 339, Voidedmafia wrote:Apparantly not <_<. I do know that I've stated before that your entire case was "lolcounterwagons," though. I guess you were ignoring that?

I responded to that at the time you did it.

In post 339, Voidedmafia wrote:You still have a chance to explain yourself.

And I have.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:04 am

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In post 337, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 334, Justin Timberlake wrote:Voided: Claim in your next post.

Do you see an intent to hammer anywhere? I don't.

Can't tell who is derpier...
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:16 am

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In post 340, Thor665 wrote:
In post 339, Voidedmafia wrote:Perhaps I was remiss in pushing the point, but the call for votes was going to happen after you explained.

No it wasn't - you voted me after I explained.

If you'll recall, I wanted more elaboration that just "lolcounterwagon"--elaboration that you refused to give either because you didn't want to or because there wasn't anything you could give, more or less. That was why I voted you.

In post 339, Voidedmafia wrote:Apparantly not <_<. I do know that I've stated before that your entire case was "lolcounterwagons," though. I guess you were ignoring that?

I responded to that at the time you did it.

I don't remember you doing that the first couple of times.

In post 339, Voidedmafia wrote:You still have a chance to explain yourself.

And I have.

you're still sticking with the "lolcounterwagon/beard" shtick?
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:19 am

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In post 342, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 340, Thor665 wrote:
In post 339, Voidedmafia wrote:Perhaps I was remiss in pushing the point, but the call for votes was going to happen after you explained.

No it wasn't - you voted me after I explained.

If you'll recall, I wanted more elaboration that just "lolcounterwagon"--elaboration that you refused to give either because you didn't want to or because there wasn't anything you could give, more or less. That was why I voted you.

I totally agree.
Which is why you saying the call for votes was going to happen 'after' I explained is obviously poppycock.

In post 342, Voidedmafia wrote:you're still sticking with the "lolcounterwagon/beard" shtick?

Why, did I change somewhere :shifty:
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:22 am

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In post 341, Thor665 wrote:Can't tell who is derpier...

What? Why should I claim when no one's actually said they wanna hammer me?

Besides, what are you expecting from me role-wise? There aren't any PRs so unless you expect me to give up and claim scum, asking me to claim is a waste of time.
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:24 am

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Exactly.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:24 am

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So, to clarify - I can't tell who is derpier.
Him for asking.
Or you for refusing to do it till a hammer intent appears.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:27 am

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In post 346, Thor665 wrote:So, to clarify - I can't tell who is derpier.
Him for asking.
Or you for refusing to do it till a hammer intent appears.

Be that as it may, for questions like that I still don't see the reason behind claiming when no one's threatened to hammer.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:28 am

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lol @ taking that seriously

(so it's OPTION C thor's derpy for thinking I was in any way serious but Voided is still the derpiest)
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:29 am

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In post 347, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 346, Thor665 wrote:So, to clarify - I can't tell who is derpier.
Him for asking.
Or you for refusing to do it till a hammer intent appears.

Be that as it may, for questions like that I still don't see the reason behind claiming when no one's threatened to hammer.

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