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Post Post #2225 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:47 am

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I'd be willing to make a deal for Nachomamma + cohorts. If we lynch Cheery Dog today and if Malsp survives the night, we lynch him the next day?

Is that acceptable?
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Post Post #2226 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:39 am

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In post 2223, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2209, Alduskkel wrote:I must say that lynching someone other than malp in the hopes that he'll be NK'd is interesting.


In my vast experience, this sort of plan NEVER works out. If we think he's scum, we lynch him. We do not count on the creatures of the night.

Hey. Give me one example why.

And why did you immediately vote malp upon replacing in, hmm?
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Post Post #2227 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:58 am

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Well, more accurately, link me one example.
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Post Post #2228 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:59 am

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In post 2201, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2200, Robocopter87 wrote:Wait who are you shooting Por?

doesn't matter


Right

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Post Post #2229 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:10 am

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In post 2223, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2209, Alduskkel wrote:I must say that lynching someone other than malp in the hopes that he'll be NK'd is interesting.


In my vast experience, this sort of plan NEVER works out. If we think he's scum, we lynch him. We do not count on the creatures of the night.

not even depending on the creatures of the night
we're going to count on the inevitable role interactions that are bound to occur
he has to give us a result every night
which means that if he's scum, he's a dead man walking
if he's town, he might actually do something useful for once
although i grow tired of defending his useless ass

In post 2225, ActionDan wrote:I'd be willing to make a deal for Nachomamma + cohorts. If we lynch Cheery Dog today and if Malsp survives the night, we lynch him the next day?

Is that acceptable?

scum won't shoot him in this case
although if mehdi is shooting him then that's fine

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Post Post #2230 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:14 am

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In post 2203, Mehdi2277 wrote:And for anyone thinking I'll be roleblocked, assuming malpa is green scum then black would have no desire to stop me, green is doubtful to have two roles that can block roles (and follows I don't think green would have two redirection type roles), and town shouldn't be stopping me.


This doesn't solve anything. You get evidently roleblocked in the process and above all you're implying that scum isn't claiming their real role right now, just in a form of a safe-claim.
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Post Post #2231 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:18 am

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In post 2227, Alduskkel wrote:Well, more accurately, link me one example.


I hate it when people do this, its such a jerk move.
Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.


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Post Post #2232 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:22 am

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In post 2225, ActionDan wrote:I'd be willing to make a deal for Nachomamma + cohorts. If we lynch Cheery Dog today and if Malsp survives the night, we lynch him the next day?

Is that acceptable?


NO
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Post Post #2233 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:24 am

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In post 2232, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 2225, ActionDan wrote:I'd be willing to make a deal for Nachomamma + cohorts. If we lynch Cheery Dog today and if Malsp survives the night, we lynch him the next day?

Is that acceptable?


NO

can you vote cheery dog pls
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Post Post #2234 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:26 am

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In post 2231, Robocopter87 wrote:
In post 2227, Alduskkel wrote:Well, more accurately, link me one example.


I hate it when people do this, its such a jerk move.
DGB claimed that in her "vast experience" that relying on scum to NK someone doesn't work. I'm just asking for one example of that.

Hell, I'll just settle for some reasoning. Either is fine.
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Post Post #2235 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:28 am

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Reasoning being:

Yeah lets just trust the people whos sole purpose in this game is to deceive us. No no I'm sure they'll do the right thing that benefits us and not them.

In laymans terms:

They gonna trick us
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Post Post #2236 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:33 am

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In post 2234, Alduskkel wrote:
In post 2231, Robocopter87 wrote:
In post 2227, Alduskkel wrote:Well, more accurately, link me one example.


I hate it when people do this, its such a jerk move.
DGB claimed that in her "vast experience" that relying on scum to NK someone doesn't work. I'm just asking for one example of that.

Hell, I'll just settle for some reasoning. Either is fine.


I've been burned too many times with these night plans. They just never turn out as planned. And then the tendency is to forget about lynching the scumbag because people get distracted, and bored trying to whip up a 14-person lynch of the same guy yet another frikkin day.
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Post Post #2237 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:43 am

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Do you guys actually think scum will bother with killing Malp in the first place?
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Post Post #2238 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:44 am

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That was a question to all the people who thinks Malp will "draw" the kill if he really is town
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Post Post #2239 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:59 am

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The way I see it, the way Malp outted as a town jailer pretty much condemns him. Town do not string along their role especially when they're a PR. The lack of information when you're on the verge of a lynch with most of the town wanting your neck is ridiculous. Where is the town thought process in that? There isn't one at all.

In post 2219, Titan wrote:
In post 1409, Vifam wrote:Okay

VOTE: Pasch

Lets just do it, with the rate this is going people are gonna lose interest and the mod will have to pick up replacements.

In post 1410, Tazaro wrote:My name is Tazaro, not Pasch

In post 1411, Vifam wrote:Oh my bad son

VOTE: Tazaro

This reads fake (since Taz has been in the game for some while now and I don't think Vifam is that inattentive).

Plus here:
In post 1985, Vifam wrote:Urgh that just might be second guessing the lynch in general now that Malp is close to a hammer

Doesn't add up with the fact that he just decided to hammer Taz right away :?


The reason for the hammer on Pasch was because

1. His last few posts before he was lynched were extremely bad and just reeked of scum apathy

2.At the time we needed 4 replacements, Noir was threatening to replace (Even though he flipped scum, whatever), and the activity in town grinded to a halt. If it wasn't for that hammer we probably would have lost a few more. It gave the mod time to get his stuff together. And ended a day that basically became "So when are we gonna lynch Tazaro" a little shorter so the replacements didn't have to sit through 10 more pages of repetitive agreement from half the town.
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Post Post #2240 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:12 am

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In post 2162, Fate wrote:Zdenek is still scum as fuck no matter WHAT HE FLIPS

AND IF DGB IS STILL ALIVE IN THREE FUCKIN DAYS AND IM DEAD YOU DONT LET HER SWEETTALK HER WAY TO NO GODDAMN VICTORY

Someone shoot Fate
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Post Post #2241 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:48 am

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In post 2214, buldermar wrote:How do people not vote this -_-

because they are smart and have worked out that I am town, unlike the people on my wagon. (except nacho who is scum and therefore has reason to want to lynch me)
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Post Post #2242 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:57 am

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In post 2241, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 2214, buldermar wrote:How do people not vote this -_-

because they are smart and have worked out that I am town, unlike the people on my wagon. (except nacho who is scum and therefore has reason to want to lynch me)


The tone of this post interests me. I'm going to do an ISO of Cheerydog, then pass judgment. I probably should have done this a while back...
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Post Post #2243 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:08 am

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What was wrong with it? The bravado? The whole "Nacho is scum thing"?
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Post Post #2244 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:22 am

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In post 2243, Vifam wrote:What was wrong with it? The bravado? The whole "Nacho is scum thing"?


I don't know, truth be told. The actual content is roughly the same as what's been said recently, so that's not it. It's half gut, half phrasing. (So all gut).

Also, partially because, as I said, I should do a check over him anyway.

That said, malpa, fate and titan are getting a similar treatment soon.
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Post Post #2245 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:29 am

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In post 2225, ActionDan wrote:I'd be willing to make a deal for Nachomamma + cohorts. If we lynch Cheery Dog today and if Malsp survives the night, we lynch him the next day?

Is that acceptable?
That works for me.
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Post Post #2246 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:33 am

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In post 2239, Vifam wrote:The way I see it, the way Malp outted as a town jailer pretty much condemns him. Town do not string along their role especially when they're a PR. The lack of information when you're on the verge of a lynch with most of the town wanting your neck is ridiculous. Where is the town thought process in that? There isn't one at all.
He may simply not have thought at first that it was a big deal.
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Post Post #2247 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:36 am

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In post 2241, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 2214, buldermar wrote:How do people not vote this -_-

because they are smart and have worked out that I am town, unlike the people on my wagon. (except nacho who is scum and therefore has reason to want to lynch me)
Appeal to superiority will not work, so shut up.
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Post Post #2248 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:53 am

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Robo who are you voting? Since saying the problem with the plan is scum won't follow it would mean you think I'm mafia. Vifam I'm also curious where would mafia bother shooting him come in. The idea is for me to shoot him.

Anyways claim wise I'm going with either a. he's mafia and that's not his role (two stunners on one team of likely 4-5 feels strange) or b. he's town and that is his role so it should be easy for him to stun me. This plan basically says if he's alive tomorrow we aren't lynching him for a while since it'd confirm I got blocked or something similar.

Remind me why cE is ignored again? We've cleared up he's a weak general scum read and that he's lurked a ton, but that's not enough somehow.
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Post Post #2249 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:01 am

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In post 2248, Mehdi2277 wrote:Remind me why cE is ignored again? We've cleared up he's a weak general scum read and that he's lurked a ton, but that's not enough somehow
He's not lurking, he asked to get replaced and the mod is looking for a replacement.

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