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Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:23 am

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In post 2391, Porfervor wrote:P-edit: why can't he just be scum in general i don't care what fucking color he is
He can't be scum without being a flavor. If he can't be a flavor then he can't be scum. Quit being so dumb.
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Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:44 am

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In post 2448, Zdenek wrote:No, it's not. The plan is bad because of the possibility of role interactions at night. The good point is that the bulk of the case against Malp is based on the idea that he is Green Scum aligned, Green Scum probably don't have Pandorica's role and joat and a roleblocker and the role-blocking part of his role is confirmable. So if he is scum, he is unlikely to be Green Scum, which makes a lot of the case for him being scum really questionable.

Why can't he be Green Scum but not a RB/JK? Fair enough, though, I understand the context of "excellent point" now. But now I don't see why you're "fine with lynching him later" if this is such a good point.
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Maybe it's not a case but I like to think it's better than anything else right now

...

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Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:50 am

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I agree with #2448 concerning Mehdi's spec about the felt scum team. It's unlikely to have JOAT + redirector/roleblocker + another roleblocker + goon (since other team flipped goon).

If Malsaspc is scum I'd have thought it to be felt scum.

So this annoys me. Unless he's totally bsing his role... but I doubt that.

I'd really just like Cheery Malsaspc AV Maenara to die. If Mals isn't felt scum I'd go back to Buldar being felt since I've been under the assumption that they're mutually exclusive as felt scum due to D1 play.

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Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:53 am

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Why vote cheery instead of av right now then? AV's wagon has definitely grown.
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Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:54 am

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Because AD is probscum~
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Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:55 am

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Anyways, I've been really apathetic to everything in general. I'll try to get motivated tomorrow and read like, the last couple of pages at least. At the moment I'm just being a dick x_x
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Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:59 am

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In post 2452, ActionDan wrote:I agree with #2448 concerning Mehdi's spec about the felt scum team. It's unlikely to have JOAT + redirector/roleblocker + another roleblocker + goon (since other team flipped goon).

Why can't he be Green Scum but not a RB/JK?
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Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:00 am

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In post 2451, BT wrote:Why can't he be Green Scum but not a RB/JK? Fair enough, though, I understand the context of "excellent point" now. But now I don't see why you're "fine with lynching him later" if this is such a good point.

Because he doesn't have to be green scum.
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Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:01 am

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If he's lying about being a RB/JK, there's a decent chance that we'll figure that out eventually.
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Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:12 am

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BT wrote:
In post 2449, xtopherusD wrote:

Maybe it's not a case but I like to think it's better than anything else right now

...

It's like my posts are invisible.

WHAT WHERE DID YOU COME FROM

Yeah, I noticed your posts. Hard to miss large bright red all caps text. And I really want to agree with you, but placing a vote on someone who
had
just under a third of the players voting for him
who then voted someone else
is fighting at a lost cause. I completely agree that malpascp needs to be lynched today. But it takes more than two people to change people's minds back to what they changed from.

So a suboptimal lynch it must be. And from what I have seen, AurorusVox is the least suboptimal person for today.
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Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:34 am

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In post 2445, Sanjay wrote:I'd like to wait for malp to get back more actively. I feel like his curmugeonly attitude he's recently affected seems pretty non-specific for scumminess. It seems like a pretty natural development of him not having enough time. The whole "How are you posting if you are V/LA" stuff is bogus and super non-specific.

Let him come back and say some shit.


DO NOT make excuses for - I'd say lurkerscum, but malcasp is much worse than that.

Read Ladies' Night mafia; check how many excuses for not participating the scum brought up everyday. In fact I pushed a Day-1 scumlynch the second one of the scums said they couldn't participate fully because of some lame reason about their "computer nook," then she melted down under pressure. Another scum used RL excuses (a murdered relative, of all things, but that's Amrun, she exploits sad, sob RL excuses every time she's scum) to shirk responsibilities. Neither scum asked for replacement, mind you. Just excuses to beat the town to the punch when the town inevitably notice their suckage and lack of participation.

And are you playing some sort of game where you go against everyone's opinion for scum reasons, or are you just that bad at the game?
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Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:37 am

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Did Mehdi CLAIM because he wanted to prove malcasp's role, BTW?
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Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:39 am

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Dgb did you read the post I claimed in? It was today.
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Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:41 am

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In post 2064, Mehdi2277 wrote:Meh, thought on it and with all the vig curiousity well I'm one. And unlike some others I like my kill directed so I was debating claiming (treating it somewhat like a second lynch where I care on opinions of who to shoot, but still have control over it). I shot no one last night (hadn't read enough to shoot). Aradia 0_0. Minimal flavor which just deals with time powers that can be used to beat people and like for breaking things. Curious where cheery got all roles have flavor (sounded like he had long flavor) when mine was fairly short.

Titan I'd need more on avox to shoot him. Brood or cE I'm leaning towards (cE more since while scummy none of you want to lynch the super lurker so shooting him would work well).


Here if it helps you. As for why I claimed I've answered that multiple times already.
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Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:43 am

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In post 2453, Mehdi2277 wrote:Why vote cheery instead of av right now then? AV's wagon has definitely grown.


I got a sense of maybe Av plays a God-awful town-PR game. Cheery dying would at least allow the intransigent people like Nachomamma to get off their high-horse.

Of course the second I see
AurorusVox wrote:Because AD is probscum~

AurorusVox wrote:Anyways, I've been really apathetic to everything in general. I'll try to get motivated tomorrow and read like, the last couple of pages at least. At the moment I'm just being a dick x_x


I want to vote it again.

BT wrote:
In post 2452, ActionDan wrote:I agree with #2448 concerning Mehdi's spec about the felt scum team. It's unlikely to have JOAT + redirector/roleblocker + another roleblocker + goon (since other team flipped goon).

Why can't he be Green Scum but not a RB/JK?


He could. Although in this case he'll be shot in the face, and even if that doesn't work out I got the feeling he was telling the truth about his role and target minus the protection aspect.

Btw Avox. rule #1 as a PR. Don't give away yourself as a PR unnecessarily because scum will either roleblock you or shoot you. And playing like crap purposely leads to just that
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Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:46 am

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AD considering I'm shooting a PR claim (well one that can stop it) and he's still suspected do you think it's worth keeping a suspicious pr soft claim alive anyway?
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Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:55 am

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I personally think Malsaspc's PR pretty sucky. AV is hinting that he can confirm himself or confirm others with his "I won't be lynched today"

If he couldn't do either of those things I'd lynch him on the spot.

To answer your specific question of "is it worth it?" I am currently on the fence about that answer. Since he's outed mafia might use a NK on him, or waste a roleblock (let's say if he was a mason and wasn't forced to claim).
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Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:59 am

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Unvote:
Vote: Cheery Dog
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Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:04 pm

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DeasV while you're around could you care to tell everyone what you're thinking in your foxbrain
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Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:05 pm

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We're stale mating at 3 people right now. Cheery, avox, and malp. Malp gets shot and everyone on that wagon should still disperse, and while I prefer an avox wagon I could accept cheery if we lynch avox tomorrow (unless he actually confirms himself which I doubt will happen).
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Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:10 pm

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Well. Things have happened, evidently.

I read them, too. I'm so proud of myself.

I'm not entirely satisfied with some of the reasons for joining the AV wagon, but I am entirely satisfied with it being as popular as it suddenly is. I am no longer as convinced by his scumminess as I was, but my conviction is still strong enough, especially combined with the plethora of info from his flip, that I still advocate his death.

Also, AD, get over yourself, or explain why I need to die.
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Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:18 pm

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All the people on the Cheery Wagon should move over to the Avox wagon, it's either that or we are lynching Malp.
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Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:22 pm

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Vifam seems like a pretty smart guy

yet he's ignored all red flags and obvious "shut the fuck ups" in regards to AV

and now wants AV lynch over Malp as a priority

there's a connection here, its why Vifam's scum
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Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:23 pm

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In post 2411, Fate wrote:1. xtopherusD
2. Sanjay combinatorialEnigma
11. Cheery Dog
17. Maenara GaryOak
21. BroodKingEXE
22. ζ (lowercaseZeta)
23. Zdenek Alsark
24. Shrimp85 Guy_Named_Riggs ????
28. Vifam



sanjay scummy as fuck

whoever saids ce was scum gets points


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Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:25 pm

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fate much posts but no say lots
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