The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - Summer 2024 NEW SERVER!

[izakthegoomba]

...they were turned off?

[Hiraki]

I actually don't care what OPs do

unless it interferes with me

and threatening other players for minor occurences

i don't like that either

one more

um

using the word "my server" when it's not yours

[Rhinox]

we can barely be considered a vanilla server any more.

This is probably the #1 reason why I'm not motivated to do anything on the server anymore.

I miss the times when we only had /home and /sethome and the only reason for having them was because beds were broken.

One of my favorite things about the last system was having and working on the transportation system, but now its pointless to spend effort digging subway tunnels or laying thousands of meters of roads when everyone can tp or warp all over the place.

Every change that has been made is just moving the server closer to a creative server.


I don't think I've ever had a problem with any op abusing powers. I've always assumed that at the minimum, ops had free range to fly and tp at will, and that was just a perk of being an op. Those aren't things I need or want to have explained. It would sadden me to hear ops have been spawning themselves whatever they need and enchanting whatever they want at will. I wasn't under the impression thats what being an op was for, I assumed it was only for fixing problems like rescuing someone who got stuck on top of the nether or something, or providing gifts or rewards sparingly. I was pretty sad to hear that areas were just regen'd for the sake of convenience. Might as well just be in creative mode at that point.

I don't think we need QT logs and whatnot. I mean cmon, is anyone ever going to read them? I don't really have any interest in even thinking about some admin whatever class and what commands should be available. I think its pointless legislating for what is basically 3 people deciding what they can and can't do for themselves. Just don't be dicks. Its that simple, its always been that simple, and its always seemed to work so far until now. With great power comes great responsibility, etc.

[Maestro]

...they were turned off?

Yup. And we're oh-so-happy Maru turned them back on... Aw well.

[izakthegoomba]

Yeah, the //regen was a bit jarring for me as well. Especially after I spent 8 hours straight terraforming last time we wanted to expand.

[Klazam]

...they were turned off?

Yup. And we're oh-so-happy Maru turned them back on... Aw well.

I was sick of having them be duds. I'm happy that they work, but they are still creepers, haha

[Claus]

There were plenty of times when we would fly, or use creative, or use other powers somewhat frivolously. I'm pretty sure Claus was aware of it.

To be honest, no I was not aware. But that is my fault, because I was very very little online, and didn't have time to notice such things.

I largely agree with what Rhinox said. Specially with what he describes as the OP roles: fly and TP to check if everything is going smoothly, and using creative powers sparingly for rewards and such.

[Chevre]

What I find quite unfortunate is that if Maruchan had not said anything, we would've all been fine. It seems like the admins were trying to work this out among one another, maybe it should've been kept private.

[Moneybags]

Once someone (was it Nom? Pizza?) told me he was having a really shitty day, and wanted to blow up stuff. We located a very distant village, and I gave him some flying powers to explode it.

(Me)

Yeah, not me, but I like blowing things up

Seriously though, I think this is a bunch of "OPs use their powers because they have them." I'm pretty sure anyonewith OP powers would do the same. Now, there is a line you shouldn't cross. Xalxe kicking me: Was a joke that I loled at. Maru creating a 2 high pyramid of diamond blocks and a

bacon

on top all from creative: No, fight the damn Wither. There are borders they shouldn't cross, and they know that. Honestly, let's either move on and make sure they don't abuse powers or fight for the next month over who gets to be OP. I know I don't wanna be, because I'm sure I would end up doing something regretably stupid as an OP. Minecraft is for fun, not for politics, debates, complaining, and other problems.

Sincerely,
Pizza

If you can put bacon on diamond blocks I would abuse OP too.

[Klazam]

I sell music discs now. i have all of them, so contact me by PM to discuss prices if you want them.

[Maestro]

On a side note, Klazam has stepped down as Mayor of Honeyopolis. He will remain within the city's inner circle, but is now based elsewhere, and has therefore handed over the position to me. From now on his official title (with regards to Honeyopolis leadership) will be "Mayor-Emeritus". This leadership change will bring no obvious changes, especially to those outside of city jurisdiction.

EDIT: Actually, as a beginning to my career, and after deliberation with the Mayor-Emeritus, I hereby decree that there is to be no more underground mining or Nether Portal use within the city limits. This is due to the large amount of underground real estate in use already, most of which is unsafe and/or for private use only. Please respect this edict when living in

or visiting

the City of Honeyopolis. Thank you, and have a great day!

[Klazam]

This is my official note:

I'm hereby moving out of Honeyopolis. I now tender my resignation as the Mayor of the city. Maestro will be stepping to take my role. His edicts for the city is law, and he now has the final say on any issues that might arise about the city's zoning.

I will be keeping my workshop there, and visiting it frequently, but my bed won't be there anymore.

A warm round of applause for our new Mayor of Honeyopolis, Maestro!

[izakthegoomba]

If you can put bacon on diamond blocks I would abuse OP too.

I'm such a cheater. :3

Spoiler:

[izakthegoomba]

Back to seriousness: I just went into creative to give Maestro the music disk "11" as a reward for getting all the others (except Wait because it doesn't exist), like we discussed last night. And it occurs to me; if a QT to record Op/Admin actions is going to be public, why have it at all? Why not just say what we're doing in the chat, and publish the console log at regular intervals? Or maybe even find a way to make it so that the log is publicly visible, though I don't know how easy that would be. That way there is no "trusting people to write in the QT" or "checking the QT against the log", because it's all there already.

[Klazam]

Well, because that makes /msg stuff visible and i don't think that is desirable. I'd prefer that /msg is only visible to a few people not everyone.

[izakthegoomba]

That's a good point. Shame.

[Maruchan]

exactly what he said.

[Fishythefish]

Firstly, I'll just say that the Op abuse that's made it into the thread doesn't upset me. People with powers are always going to be tempted to use them, and this doesn't look a particularly bad example of that.

I actually think Maru's fifth point is by far the most important. Up to this point, boundaries have simply not been a thing. Hell, until a few weeks ago nobody even cared about Ops flying regardless of whether we had a reason or not. I am completely happy to abide by whatever restrictions the community thinks are necessary; the problem is that such restrictions have never existed.

When Claus made myself and Xalxe Ops, I believe he used the words "cool op powers to use at your discretion". And, no offence Claus, but I think that's played a significant part in this issue.

Without going into detail (at least now), what I feel about this is that if I find something a challenge/time-consuming/dangerous activity, I want the ops to as well. So, I don't want people to be:
a) Getting or enchanting anything unnaturally
b) Teleporting as a means of travel
c) Flying for travel or construction
d) Making any activity safer or quicker
e) Using creative mode for building or breaking
Where all of these have exceptions for ops doing whatever it is that ops have to do. And also, to some extent, for frivolous, passing fun (for which I will make no attempt to offer a decent definition). If Xalxe and izak want to have a flying fight, that doesn't affect me and I really don't mind.

[Fishythefish]

(I also agree with Rhinox that more vanilla transport was more fun, but don't feel as strongly as he does)

[Maestro]

^ Good posting is good.

[chesskid3]

CHESSKID FOR OP

[Maruchan]

CHESSKID FOR OP

[Maestro]

Meanwhile...in the Micro Queue...

Spoiler: Minecraft Mafia

9-Player Closed Theme with special Game Mechanics centered around Resource Gathering
3 possible pre-/in's that will need to be confirmed. Knowledge of Thematic Material recommended.

[izakthegoomba]

DAT ARTWORK

O.o

/pre-in (it's not in signups yet right?)

[Maestro]

It's not. The 3 pre-/in's I anticipated were you, Xalxe, and Klazam, if you want them.
Anybody else? WOTC is accepted and shit, Special Mechanic will be explained if desired.