In post 3316, Titan wrote:vifam still hasn't explained why his opinion changed over the span of a half an hour.
which is cool since it just means he needs rope.
I disagree with the premise that "because it was a superior choice to watch Profevor over Pandorica, it would be scum who made the choice to watch Pandorica". I still insist that it is wifom, but I'll respect that you disagree with this.In post 3151, ActionDan wrote:In post 3126, buldermar wrote:That's only true if you completely ignore advantages/disadvantages of having done either when claiming/fakeclaiming. By doing so, it does not resemble a real scenario at all. I'll repeat: it is also in the scum's interest to be able to fakeclaim a town role and have people believe this fakeclaim, which is achieved by targeting who you would have targeted had you been town. It's essentially the same as NK wifom, just with a secondary layer, which may be what is causing you trouble comprehending it.In post 3118, ActionDan wrote:In post 3106, buldermar wrote:No the argument is still utterly retarded. On that token he might as well when he is scum intentionally watch specifically Porfevor just to then claim so, which would mean him=town, whilst avoiding any incongruities in actual action. It's WIFOM and there is no way to confirm/disconfirm the distribution.
Except it's in town's best interests to watch Porfevor. It's in scum's interest to watch one of their own. It's not the same as NK wifom because only scum NK. It's not like one of them wants to own it.
I agree with you that fake-claiming to watch Porfevor if he really watched Pandorica is viable. You could certainly make the argument that if AV was scum, he'd have watched Profevor and claimed he had watched Profevor to show he did a irrefutable townie thing to make people believe he was town. Still, it's just as viable that as scum he'd watch Pandorica instead, since it's just as viable a strategy for scum to do. Because he has committed to claiming that he watched Pandorica, the above wifom need not be considered. It only remains to determine if he watched Pandorica as scum, or as town. Because it was a superior choice to watch Profevor over Pandorica, It would be scum who made the choice to watch Pandorica. If you argue that scum would not claim to watch Pandorica precisely because it would incriminate them, I would argue that Av would not expect to get flak for his choice and wouldn't have thought it would be a problem.
You're going for anyone, scum.
One would think that a town player would be explicit about potential scums. Then again, you're not a town player, so who cares.In post 3262, Vifam wrote:I never said I didn't want to lynch him?
Vifam knows that Phil isn't scum and therefore has no problem with a wagon on Phil. Seems perfectly congruent to me.In post 3294, Nachomamma8 wrote:In post 3221, Vifam wrote:I don't think Phil is scum and I remember commenting on it earlier, I forgot what I said but I know it made sense
In post 3256, Vifam wrote:I don't necessarily have a problem with a Phil wagon seeing as he's fizzled out since then.
Wasn't Fate pushing him earlier?
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In post 3307, quadz08 wrote:Sanjay (8): Bumi, BT,Maenara,Sunshine and Rainbows, Titan, mehdi2277,Vifam, DrippingGoofball
In post 3332, buldermar wrote:In post 3307, quadz08 wrote:Sanjay (8): Bumi, BT,Maenara,Sunshine and Rainbows, Titan, mehdi2277,Vifam, DrippingGoofball
In post 3304, Alduskkel wrote:I'm not too sure about this Sanjay wagon. The rapidity of the wagon formation is a bit disturbing, but I didn't feel that way with Maenara or AurorusVox (probably since I thought they were scum). I'll have to iso him to get a good read. I think maybe the town is a bit lynch-happy right now, for better or for worse.
Dunno if Sanjay's defense of Maenara is scum-buddying or town-sticking-up-for-another-town. I'll have to review the circumstances.
Maenara is confirmed??In post 3333, BT wrote:In post 3332, buldermar wrote:In post 3307, quadz08 wrote:Sanjay (8): Bumi, BT,Maenara,Sunshine and Rainbows, Titan, mehdi2277,Vifam, DrippingGoofball
Not to mention Maenara is confirmed. Actually, the only two I'm null on from that list are Titan and DGB.
In post 3324, Mehdi2277 wrote:Tammy you're creeping me out tonally. Brood who's on your list is the one.
In post 3335, buldermar wrote:Maenara is confirmed??
In post 3310, Sunshine and Rainbows wrote:In post 3309, Working Manju wrote:In post 3305, Titan wrote:I'm okay with the Sanjay wagon. I agree with bumi I think who said that cryoto could have been bussing a buddy for early town cred, plus epic was pushing them pretty hard day one as well.
why can't sanjay be green scum?
Manju what are you doing strutting around naked like that! Sanjay is A-okay but I was wondering if people could say why they are voting him besides wheeness?
In post 178, Pandorica wrote:In post 125, combinatorialEnigma wrote:"I have a made-up post restriction where I always make a bunch of worthless posts in a row."
FTFY
i'm literally a professional mafia player please don't insult me by calling my posts worthless.
In post 126, Phillammon wrote:Yeah, there's no PR there. Suspicion has begun.
why?
In post 131, combinatorialEnigma wrote:In post 129, Pandorica wrote:Please ignore Faraday. He's a moron. I need to control him.
Noted.
NOTING WHAT?
Vote Noir
cool alt, guy
In post 1436, Mehdi2277 wrote:Well it's going along as I read so I'll end up reading the flips fully later anyway. And explain how pasche looks scummy for x is bad?
From where I'm at other read wise is town on titan, xtoph (primarily for 262), nika's slot, and deas. Saw some discussion on vifam but so far weak town read.
In post 3343, Sanjay wrote:Read nacho.
Ask yourself if his reads seem like they seem organic or artificial.
In post 3347, Bumi wrote:In post 3343, Sanjay wrote:Read nacho.
Ask yourself if his reads seem like they seem organic or artificial.
You keep going after townie people like BT and Nacho. Is this because you don't want to committ to other more common reads?