Mini 1400(!): Bubble Tape Mafia - It's Over!

[Thor665]

Hold up, I must've missed this last night...

I'd lynch Cyber over Qwints though.

Why did this change? The VoteCount analysis?

Yes.

Unvote: Qwints

I appreciate that everyone wants to look town and help lynch Qwints - but I still want to have a discussion about massclaiming.

[d3x]

I'm fine with it. I'm also fine with popcorn starting with qwints.

[Thor665]

So that was the extent of that push on me?
'Yes' solved it all?

[d3x]

It wasn't a push, it was more of a clarification. Coupled with our previous discussion of your view on Cyber's voting habits, I'm satisfied. I wanted to make sure that I didn't miss anything.

However, I had to leave my computer and saw the MassClaim/UnVote on my phone. I dislike posting much on my phone, so I only responded to that. The 'I'm fine with it' was in reference to the MC only.

[Kthxbye]

Can I start the mass claim?

[Thor665]

Scummiest player should start popcorn.
If you think you're the scummiest player then I'm fine with you starting.
I personally think it's Qwints.

[Kthxbye]

Intention to hammer.

I got to be honest, this strikes me in a negative way. We barely start this day and there is intent to hammer? I think qwints is a good lynch, but why so early KJ?

P.edit: I was making a funny Thor.....

[Thor665]

I may or may not have been making a funny myself.
I'll figure it out and get back to you.

[Jake from State Farm]

And people critized me for voting MM, now KJ comes in and is obv scum. Kthx, think about shooting KJ tonight if he doesn't get lynched first.

[Jake from State Farm]

btw, KJ you should be voting me, not giving intent to hammer on qwints. You accused me of something you think is a legitimate scumtell and your reasons for being suspicious of Qwints weren't even remotely close to your conviction of me being scum.

truth be told, I would be fine with either Q or KL lynch

[qwints]

Looks like I need to claim either way: Vanilla Townie.

[Jake from State Farm]

Choose who's next, your top scum read

[qwints]

Popcorn KillerJester

[Thor665]

Now we're cooking with fire.

[killerjester]

VT.

Cyber.

[qwints is a] Stronger scumread than Jake.

[Jake from State Farm]

but your suspicion was due to him making another bad hammer, he hammered scum so in your mind that was still a bad hammer?

[killerjester]

Yes, in a particular sense. I think there could have been more discussion and a chance to connect zipper to his living partners. I'm not upset about the flip. Q's assuming that I expected a townflip on my nullread was also bad.

[Cybertronix]

Vanilla Townie.

d3x, you're up.

[d3x]

VT. I think that leaves Thor, as Jake and Kthx have claimed.

Hey Cyber, thoughts?

[Thor665]

Claim: Snuffleuppagus.

I have a soothing voice and soulful eyes.
I have no powers, but if I'm lynched or NKed people will probably feel sad.

So, as stands we are in a game with;

X-shot Commuter
X-shot Vig
Cop
Deputy

vs.

Goon
Roleblocker (assured, to my mind - either Kthx is town/SK and this exists or Kthx is scum in which case I think it still exists)
?? (SK??)

Jake as basically the only kill immunity available is highly likely town.
I think it's fairly safe to say that there's no SK, or if there is it's Kthnx.
I tend to believe Kthnx is a Vig, as otherwise town is a little weak methinks...this could vary depending on what the other scum are, but the core point being is if there is an SK then town would be drastically weak. I'll accept that Kthx might be scum claiming to be a Vig, and maybe that will be something to consider later, but it's not the move today.

So, Kthnx, Thor, and Jake are all functionally assured town (unless you're Jake, natch)
With the idea Kthnx is town I also believe this is still the smart move of the day.

Vote: Qwints

Kthnx should only shoot if Qwints is scum. There are likely two scum out there, and if they only have one kill then we're just to lylo tomorrow even if we lynch wrong and scum manage a kill.
The way scum is playing this number I'd also say I'm basically for the axe tonight - so if you have any questions for me I'd tend to suggest you toss them out now.

Both Cyber and Qwints opted to do nothing for town with their postings - scummy.
I tend to lean town on D3x.
I tend to lean town on KJ also...though I'll admit I can't remember specifically why.
If Qwints flips scum let's please consider Kthx to be town until a paranoia laced lylo, okay?

[qwints]

Let me explain my thinking from yesterday, then analyze the situation.

Yesterday, I believed that I was not likely to have the opportunity to hammer zipper for long and that I was the next likely lynch target. Given the fact that I know I'm town and that I thought there was a good chance that zipper was scum, I hammered zipper. I was less confident of zipper being scum than I was of Dave being scum, but the situation was quite different. I was quite aware of the possibility that zipper would flip town would lead to my quick mislynch today and thus a town loss.

Luckily, that didn't happen and zipper was actually scum. I actually think that given the fact that there appeared to be support for a wagon on several other players that scum could have been on with little risk given AP's conf-town status and vocal support for Cyber or me as options. D3x sticks out as a player who quickly got on the cyber wagon after AP initiated it in what could have been an effort to get pressure off zipper. Jake looks really good for placing Zipper at L-1 after the two earlier Cyber votes from AP and D3x. If I had to call scum with a gut read right now it'd be D3x and killer jester. I'll re-read to try and evaluate that.

[Cybertronix]

It's likely that one or both of qwints/kj-MM is scum.

Jake is my strongest town-read.

Kthnx, Thor and d3x lean town, but one of them is scum if both qwints and killerjester are not scum.

[killerjester]

Anti-town mindset. Particularly with the bolded.

Yesterday, I believed that I was not likely to have the opportunity to hammer zipper for long and that I was the next likely lynch target. Given the fact that I know I'm town and that I thought there was a good chance that zipper was scum, I hammered zipper. I was less confident of zipper being scum than I was of Dave being scum, but the situation was quite different.

I was quite aware of the possibility that zipper would flip town would lead to my quick mislynch today and thus a town loss.

Town aren't largely motivated by survival. Qwints clearly is. Any suspicious-looking townie can realize when it's best to throw in the towel and help in a last ditch effort by providing as much information as they can. Opportunistically hammering is never the right move, as it can quickly lead to the bolded scenario if one is wrong.

Given that zipper was a goon, I'd say it's a strong possibility qwints is scum PR.

[Cybertronix]

I'm guessing Thor is claiming VT as well.

@KJ: Do you think the hammer on zipper was done as a bus and to deny town info?

[Cybertronix]

EBWOP:

Nevermind.