Mafia 54: TGFKA Moses in Egypt - Game over!

Kelly Chen · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:40 am

The Twenty-Sixth Vote Count

4 - creampuffeater (ShadowLurker, Cogito Ergo Sum, vikingfan, HezLucky)
1 - Cogito Ergo Sum (Yosarian2)
1 - vikingfan (ubertimmy)

not voting: MrBuddyLee, Machiavellian-Mafia, kirbyphreak, armlx, Rosso Carne, creampuffeater

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch!

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:16 pm

Yos, what do you think of CES's voting record?

Yosarian2 · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:29 pm

MrBuddyLee wrote:Yos, what do you think of CES's voting record?

I don't like most of his voting record. One minor point in his favor is the fact that he voted for Vaughn, in post 395. However, it was the 9th vote, at a time when it was already pretty clear Vaughn was going to get lynched, and he didn't give any reasons for it, all of which are often signs that someone is trying to make sure he's on the bandwagon of his scumbuddy.

Other then that, though, my impression is that he just jumped from bandwagon to bandwagon, supporting whatever looked like it was going to result in a lynch.

Machiavellian-Mafia · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:03 pm

I like Yos's case against CES, especially since we've already caught a scum who did basically the same thing as CES.

Vote: CES

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:54 pm

The only reason I wasn't on Vaughn's bandwagon sooner was because I was slightly inactive at the time.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:11 pm

armlx · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:41 am

Not to wagon, but especially after that vote on CPE I was thinking CES was scum. Now even more reason to agree.

Vote CES

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:17 am

2. Yosarian2
4. vikingfan
6. Cogito Ergo Sum
8. MrBuddyLee
9. ShadowLurker
10. HezLucky
12. Machiavellian-Mafia
14. kirbyphreak
15. armlx
19. ubertimmy
20. Rosso Carne
21. creampuffeater

timmy, rosso, cogito, vikingfan, kirby. All with crappy content, most with similar post histories. Most likely at least one bused Vaughn, so can't really give them credit for their vote history at all, since scum would have been looking for werewolves as much as town was. Need to see more opinions on more people from all these guys--not just opinions on the easy lynch targets.

M-M, creampuff and armlx are a step above in content. M-M hasn't said much for three weeks, could use more from him. Armlx, same. I think SL's points against creampuff are reasonably sound, but cpe's response also looks proportional, so I'm not sold on the puffwagon.

Kelly Chen · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:59 am

I'll prod on Monday.

Tentative deadline for

Thursday Oct 19

. Adjustable in either direction.

creampuffeater · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:33 am

Right now, I agree with MBL, but I would also like to know where the speed lynch votes at the beginning of the day came from, I was expecting SL to continue his CPE is scum thing, but I find everybody else who jumped on, with no content or saying why (maybe they agree with SL, or maybe they are scum...) so...

Fos: Vikingfan, CES, Hez

. I also think, that CES has a very good chance to be scum, with a very bad voting record. I think a

Vote CES

is in order

ShadowLurker · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:19 pm

creampuffeater wrote:CES has a very good chance to be scum, with a very bad voting record.

Can you explain how CES has a bad voting record?

D1: He was not on Twomztown's lynch
D2: He was on Vaughnmafia lynch
D3: He was on CDBtown's lynch

On the other hand, you have been not voting for all 3 lynches including being the only one not voting on D1, sitting on the fence much?

HezLucky · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:53 pm

CPE's response makes me happy with my vote.

Kelly Chen · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2006 2:20 pm

The Twenty-Seventh Vote Count

4 - creampuffeater (ShadowLurker, Cogito Ergo Sum, vikingfan, HezLucky)
4 - Cogito Ergo Sum (Yosarian2, Machiavellian-Mafia, armlx, creampuffeater)
1 - vikingfan (ubertimmy)

not voting: MrBuddyLee, kirbyphreak, Rosso Carne

With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch!

Yosarian2 · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:31 am

Hmmm...good point, SL. CPE, want to clarify your reasons for voting CES, or were you just trying to support lynching someone who is not you?

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:05 am

ShadowLurker wrote:
creampuffeater wrote:CES has a very good chance to be scum, with a very bad voting record.
Can you explain how CES has a bad voting record?

Why'd you choose cpe to pick on regarding this issue and not Yos? Yosarian said the same thing a few posts earlier.

kirbyphreak · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:21 pm

Hmmm....I could go with a CES or CPE wagon. I think I like the CPE wagon better.

Vote: CPE

ShadowLurker · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:34 pm

MrBuddyLee wrote:
ShadowLurker wrote:
creampuffeater wrote:CES has a very good chance to be scum, with a very bad voting record.
Can you explain how CES has a bad voting record?
Why'd you choose cpe to pick on regarding this issue and not Yos? Yosarian said the same thing a few posts earlier.

Yos' points were true, he pointed out CES was the 9th vote, however, that was still being on the only mafia wagon that's taken place, CPE on the other hand, has not voted anybody.

Machiavellian-Mafia · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:04 am

MBL, if you had to decide whether to vote CPE or CES right now, who would you vote?

Also I am liking the CPE case presented by SL more now, but I don't think it's necessary to put him at lynch -1 yet, so

unvote

Rosso Carne · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:32 am

my first inclinatoin is that neither of these wagons has a great deal of merit, but meh. Thats a rough one cuz of all the booms.

reread coming tonight

creampuffeater · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:47 am

ShadowLurker wrote:
MrBuddyLee wrote:
ShadowLurker wrote:
creampuffeater wrote:CES has a very good chance to be scum, with a very bad voting record.
Can you explain how CES has a bad voting record?
Why'd you choose cpe to pick on regarding this issue and not Yos? Yosarian said the same thing a few posts earlier.
Yos' points were true, he pointed out CES was the 9th vote, however, that was still being on the only mafia wagon that's taken place, CPE on the other hand, has not voted anybody.

I normally don't vote a lot of people, I was willing to vote on the twomz (town) lynch, but I was at school when you finished him off, As for day 2, I wanted to let Vaughn claim, because it is not good to just randomly wagon people, and lynch them. Day 3's lynch of CDB, was another lynch where I did not think he was scum, so I did not vote him. CES, on the other hand has been on all 3 of the lynches and 2 of them were of townies, so its not really the best voting record thier could be.

MrBuddyLee · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:37 am

Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:MBL, if you had to decide whether to vote CPE or CES right now, who would you vote?

I'm getting townier vibes off cpe recently. CES voted for Vaughn but it could have been a bus. I'd vote for CES over creampuff if forced, but I'm looking at other alternatives because I think our rapid success has resulted in a lack of info on other players.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:47 am

creampuffeater wrote:
ShadowLurker wrote:
MrBuddyLee wrote:
ShadowLurker wrote:
creampuffeater wrote:CES has a very good chance to be scum, with a very bad voting record.
Can you explain how CES has a bad voting record?
Why'd you choose cpe to pick on regarding this issue and not Yos? Yosarian said the same thing a few posts earlier.
Yos' points were true, he pointed out CES was the 9th vote, however, that was still being on the only mafia wagon that's taken place, CPE on the other hand, has not voted anybody.
I normally don't vote a lot of people, I was willing to vote on the twomz (town) lynch, but I was at school when you finished him off, As for day 2, I wanted to let Vaughn claim, because it is not good to just randomly wagon people, and lynch them. Day 3's lynch of CDB, was another lynch where I did not think he was scum, so I did not vote him. CES, on the other hand has been on all 3 of the lynches and 2 of them were of townies, so its not really the best voting record thier could be.

Being on 3 lynches > Being on 0 lynches

I was on 3 lynches as well.

Even if you didn't agree with the current wagon you could've voted for somebody you did think was scum.

vikingfan · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:34 am

Apologies for crappy content- will reread later on today and give my thoughts.

Kelly Chen · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:25 pm

It turns out everyone has posted in the last week. I'll check again later in the week.

vikingfan · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:19 pm

All right, some thoughts.

First, a list of roles we know are still in the game (taken from the OP).

3 Mafia
1 Pharaoh
1 Cop
1 Seer(but now useless and effectively a townie)
1 Miriam
5 Townies

The Seer now has 3 nights' worth of investigations- hopefully he has investigated all live players. In any case, the Seer should come out once he has a guilty on someone or when his list of innocents is long enough that it will likely win us the game.

I would prefer holding the Pharaoh's ability for now until we have some investigations, IMO.

Seer and Miriam can't do much at this point, nor can the townies.

Now for actual vote count analysis (I'm looking strictly at Vaughn votes and lynches) upcoming in a separate post.