Mini 1409: Storm of Songs (GAME OVER)
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If Zoidberg is scum with GNR-town, then he knows that Molla's result on GNR is inaccurate. So, I don't think he would so enthusiastically push GNR's lynch, while also stating that BBmolla is to be lynched if GNR flips town, out of fear that he would be perceived as incredibly scummy once they both do flip town.
(And at that point Molla had specified the times at which he 'exchanged PMs' with the mod, so it is likely enough that town would think the result true)-
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In post 427, DeasVail wrote:So, I don't think he would so enthusiastically push GNR's lynch, while also stating that BBmolla is to be lynched if GNR flips town, out of fear that he would be perceived as incredibly scummy once they both do flip town.
I don't get this, either. Why would Zoid's post make him scummy if both BB and GNR are town?-
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FT: This...
"The fact Agar is sticking to his principles is giving me a good town-read."
Fuck his principles. Not claiming doesn't do ANYTHING to help town. ESPECIALLY as a PR as I thought his one post hinted at. He's scummy for lying multiple times. Add in the sorta 'soft claim' with 'I'm not claiming' mentality....not a town mindset.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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In post 430, Kthxbye wrote:FT: This...
"The fact Agar is sticking to his principles is giving me a good town-read."
Fuck his principles. Not claiming doesn't do ANYTHING to help town. ESPECIALLY as a PR as I thought his one post hinted at. He's scummy for lying multiple times. Add in the sorta 'soft claim' with 'I'm not claiming' mentality....not a town mindset.
1. I disagree. I've refused to claim as town before and can imagine any number of reasons for doing so. What I don't see is the scum-motivation for refusing to claim, besides which I don't see much of a case against Agar to begin with. He stuck to principles, and sticking to principles even badly-reasoned ones is towny.
2. You didn't answer my question. What does our disagreement over a theoretical matter (whether sticking to principles is towny, and whether refusing to claim is scummy) have to do with being informed? How does that betray knowledge I shouldn't have?-
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In post 429, FourTrouble wrote:I don't get this, either. Why would Zoid's post make him scummy if both BB and GNR are town?
It wouldn't necessarily, but from the scum PoV they'd be aware of them both being town and feel scummy doing it, and would think they'd be accused of lining up lynches or whatever.-
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Kthxbye is our scum, guys. I don't see any of the excitement townies usually feel when they think they've caught scum. He's not even voting for me when he thinks I'm scum 100% regardless of how Agar flips. His reasoning sucks, starts with a conclusion and justifies it later. His unvoting and revoting is pretty shady, too.
Vote Kthxbye-
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In post 424, DeasVail wrote:Not claiming is not always scummy, but AGar doing it in this case as well as seemingly encouraging his lynch contradicts the idea behind not claiming and thus feels like scum trying to do something unorthodox in the hope of looking town.
Where am I encouraging my lynch?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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In post 430, Kthxbye wrote:He's scummy for lying multiple times.
Can you highlight, with exact quotes, where I have lied, please? And I mean 100% hands down lied, not you interpret the way things played out as me lying.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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In post 435, Kthxbye wrote:Just making my scum read on you even better FT. OMGUS much? I call you scum, and you vote me. Classic scum.
My vote wasn't OMGUS, besides OMGUS ain't a scum-tell.-
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In post 431, FourTrouble wrote:He stuck to principles, and sticking to principles even badly-reasoned ones is towny.
In what universe is this true? I believe in the Lynch All Liars principle. Does that mean if I do it every game you would see me as town in every game?I finally learned what it's like to be a grandmother; subjugated, yet honored.-
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"I also have read. I just didn't meticulously count votes." This is the quote I'm referring to. If you had read, I just don't see a way you miss the obvious wagons that were legit.
That being said, you made me re-read your ISO. Spoiler, I'm having second thoughts.If you think I'm scum D1, bet all your money I'm town.-
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In post 329, AGar wrote:I'm not claiming, for the record.
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Time to nut up or shut up.
Also, the case on me is tantamount to "I'm going to make obtuse statements that cannot be denied or argued thus you are scum, and if you try to say otherwise I'm going to plug my ears and shout 'LALALALAALALALA' " hence me ignoring it all this time.
So do y'all selves a favor after someone pulls the trigger and actually take a look at how this wagon slow-rolled its way to a lynch.-
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In post 184, BBmolla wrote:@GNR:I'm a daycop with a guilty on you. What have you to say?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: GNR
Still catching up, but thus far BB and FT read like really town (FT > BB).vezokpiraka: If you are playing on EUNE we can duo.
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In post 444, quadz08 wrote:Just went over AGar's ISO and I'm still comfortable with this vote. He hasn't done anything useful all day, and his "I've totally read you guys" comment is scummy.
Saying I read is scummy? Really dude?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: quadz
You piggy backed Kthx's awful case. When that's been pretty much torn apart, and even he is having second thoughts, you choose to reinforce your stance by reading an ISO and coming up with garbage reasoning.
Now it's your turn to apologize for your role, bro.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.-
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In post 447, quadz08 wrote:Dear
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AGar.
Saying you readwhile clearly exhibiting that you hadn'tis, in fact, scummy.
I actually had.
Hence how I knew there were at some point votes casted on the two wagons-which-weren't-really-wagons I pointed to. Again, there was not a votecount present in 52 when I made 56. d3x had ballooned from RVS, and when I had read (which I admitted wasn't a meticulous deal), I didn't go back and re-read who had voted him from RVS and then go "Oh, ok, his unvote was from d3x, ahhh."
So again... what is your case?Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
Get to know me. Or don't. I won't tell you what to do. I'm not God. Or your father. Or your boss.
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