Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[MattP]

You aren't full of it, are you Matt?

I have a pretty well-known track record

I'll let my actions woo you

Woo me.

VOTE: MattP

You make votes like this on page 85???

[Bumi]

Excuse me?

[Bumi]

Aj are you voting me based on proficiency?

[BirdAndBeast]

You aren't full of it, are you Matt?

I have a pretty well-known track record

I'll let my actions woo you

Woo me.

VOTE: MattP

You make votes like this on page 85???

Okay, it's official, Matt's scum.

He was already looking bad, but this?

This just pushed him well over the limit.

[njoseph]

Hey! You finally have a on the bottom of a post that's not part of the sig.

[MattP]

That's the first vote he's ever made on my slot all game and it's RVS

Tell me where the limit is so I can push it harder

[MattP]

You should let him answer for himself, though

While I rly truly value your input [:

[njoseph]

Why didn't we kill killerjester day 1?

[MattP]

Give me like 3 days and you'll be rly happy I promise I just need to find the scum

[StrangerCoug]

PeregrineV is V/LA until January 27.

[Aj The Epic]

I've got a bit of responding to do. I'll divvy it up into spoilers if it goes too long.

Second half--do tell which kill YOU think is the vig kill.

Now, I'm assuming you think it was Zdenek. I personally think it was Llamafluff, both from flavor (Z was thrown out a window, Llama run over) and from actions. You had your own personal dislike of Nhmanan (or however it's spelled), but more people were weary of Llama's pre-recognition of cop. Now, would I have vigged either? No. On night 1, I might just policy vig someone who wasn't active enough and could possibly be hiding if I had no strong reads. Different people, different styles.

Aj, give me a rundown of all who you think is scum. There must be more than two people.

Spoiler:

Albus Dumbledore:

Probable scum. First thing on his iso is his second two posts contradict. May also look further into him. He's also only posted 23 times, not a lot to grab at.

Bumi

: I have a lurking suspicion that he may be scum, may push this case later today.

Darthe

: I had reason to suspect him as scum yesterday, but ran my own logic for his actions in a circle that didn't work. While my opinion on him can change, for now I'll place him as town, even though I disagree with how he went about acting yesterday's Neighbor claim.

JacobSavage

: I believe Mr. Savage is town. I've liked his posts, especially upon review.

jmj3000

- between him and Robert, this slot has 15 posts? I kind of like some of the points Jmj made, but it isn't hard to only make a few good points while having almost no posts. Still predictably null.

MattP

I think this one is leaning scum. Nothing sticks out as blatant scum, but this is an iso check and iso checks miss major points.

njoseph

: Town. Occasionally annoying, but town.

Skyhook

He's done better that Slysly, and I had slysly down as probable town.

UVApe

: I didn't really like his inactivity. His prod dodge was weird, asked for more action and then didn't contribute at all. Probable scum.

curiouskarmadog

Spent the whole day complaining about Darthe, then went on about wanting Zstife or KJ votes. Leaning strong scum.

Boniface

Can't say much, even after reading the whole iso. The only thing I note are all his votes from yesterday are on town or people I think are town. (Zstife, Sky, Llama).

Jal

: I think she's town. Her posts come off as one of the better in the game.

PeregrineV

I think he's town. He makes some fantastic points (including pointing out that Zstife was Sixx's counterwagon in post1244, which went unnoticed as far as I can tell).

thezmon221

: By now, I can basically believe him to be completely town.

BirdAndBeast

: I'll look again, but I still think they're scum.

The Mini-Librarian

Most likely scum. His posts are short and unhelpful. Also claimed Universal Backup. A rather easy claim as mafia. Also didn't die, which as a UB protective alignment (jail keep/doctor are his options, depending on how a mod kill plays out for that role) is odd.

Edosurist

Is probably scum. Does not post a whole lot of content after he caught up. In 810, he states he'll hammer anyone who isn't an explicit town read. Very scum.

Baby Spice

Vote for AA was lame. Grammar determined her vote there. Short post styles always make me a little mad. I'm content to say a null read that I'll definitely revisit later.

ArcAngel9

: She's probably town, but doesn't mean I have to like how she's playing.

AA continues to derp. You don't need to read this, I plan on clarifying/correcting some of her misconceptions.

Spoiler:

I now am going to agree with Slysly's notion on this. I haven't called her scum, but she constantly thinks I have. I love the fact that she's taking everything the wrong way (Including thinking she was getting back stabbed by B&B... little early for that).

Point 1 : He initially accused me asking for Day Vig, and called me Scum but didn't stand by to that point, He later changed his opinion on me and said that I am not scum, then he vanished for really long time. Out of nowhere he comes back puts his vote on me for the same old reason which he already changed his mind on it once and also asked others to join his wagon. That is extremely scummy attitude

I changed my opinion formally on the thread almost 1000 posts later... Your point? I never vanished, either. I was gone for maybe 36 hours, max... I actually only voted for you in post 302.

Point 2: Now he is not much reacting when everyone accusing me being his scum mate, this an another big concern to me. Because, I am not scum. If he is not scum. The first thing he would be doing is that to tell people that he is not scum mate with me but rather he is defending himself that he was pushing for B & B lynch not AA lynch. He failed to explain on the suspicion that He and I could be the scum mates. It’s like he doesn’t want to talk about it… Its looks like his intention to make me look like his scum buddy so that rest of town can lynch me.

I thought this was funny, seeing as I hadn't been online to react either way. Though, you are also incorrect in assuming I have been pushing for your lynch.

Bumi: You are supposed to be a very strong player by meta. Before learning this, my reading of you had been that you were relatively new and didn't know the game well yet. The date supported this. But, you also haven't made many (or any) posts that are pro-town. You ask a lot of questions, but give us little back. I really don't know your reads, as your average post is 2 sentences, and not even long enough to make three lines of space taken.

[BirdAndBeast]

Why didn't we kill killerjester day 1?

'Cause there were two counterwagons to Ztife, AJ the Epic and KJ, and with us divided like that, the scum were able to successfully push through a lynch on a town PR, all the while under the firm belief that they were lynching the opposite scum faction and had nothing to fear while on it.

(How can I tell? The way the Ztife wagon formed, in a multiscum game, really, REALLY gives it away. The pattern is strongly characteristic of that mindset. Both scumteams were probably just as surprised as the town members on the wagon that Ztife flipped town. Take it from the guy who has been in a LOT of multiscum games. )


Oh, and for the record, it pleases me greatly that both of the main wagons are on the two alternative lynches to Ztife at the end of day one, with both Matt and AJ under heavy scrutiny. Lynch one, vig the other, profit.

[thezmon221]

Oh, and for the record, it pleases me greatly that both of the main wagons are on the two alternative lynches to Ztife at the end of day one, with both Matt and AJ under heavy scrutiny. Lynch one, vig the other, profit.

When can I expect your case on Aj? I personally think he's more town than scum, and I think that his last post was pretty town too.

[BirdAndBeast]

Oh, and for the record, it pleases me greatly that both of the main wagons are on the two alternative lynches to Ztife at the end of day one, with both Matt and AJ under heavy scrutiny. Lynch one, vig the other, profit.

When can I expect your case on Aj? I personally think he's more town than scum, and I think that his last post was pretty town too.

Did you actually

read

his last post?

His godawful reads, godawful justification, calling AA derp-town and continuing to push us as scum, and bashing AA.


Do provide me with your viewpoint.


As for a case, that's AP's job. My cases don't seem to get nearly as much traction.

[Aj The Epic]

When can I expect your case on Aj? I personally think he's more town than scum, and I think that his last post was pretty town too.

Did you actually

read

his last post?

His godawful reads, godawful justification, calling AA derp-town and continuing to push us as scum, and bashing AA.


Do provide me with your viewpoint.


As for a case, that's AP's job. My cases don't seem to get nearly as much traction.

Just because our reads differ do not mean mine are invalid. What would YOU call AA? Because she definitely isn't bringing up good points. She's all out of sorts and not playing any sort of good game recently because she's constantly misreading what everyone is saying about her. Did I push you as scum in that last post? Not really. I mentioned that my opinion had not changed, but you certainly weren't a focus.

[thezmon221]

Did you actually

read

his last post?

His godawful reads, godawful justification, calling AA derp-town and continuing to push us as scum, and bashing AA.

Of course I did. I felt that a lot of his reads definitely contain merit (Do I agree with them? Not exactly, but I can see where he's coming from). I personally think that your justification of his post is more a bias of tunneling than him actually having a bad case.

Do provide me with your viewpoint.

I think he's been playing just like himself. He generally has his own cases and relies a decent amount on gut (as do I, but that's for another day). I do think that he's been null-town so far. He hasn't done anything notably town insofar, but he hasn't given me vibes of scum very often.

[Boating Police]

Sorry guys, it's going to have to be tomorrow

A lot of shit came up today with school issues

[Edosurist]

O.o

2 pages in 1 day...
Didn't get a chance to read because I'll be

V/LA

until 1/27.

[curiouskarmadog]

Why didn't we kill killerjester day 1?

Ztife (13): Nachomamma8, LlamaFluff, killerjester, The Mini-Librarian, Skyhook, thezmon221, Darthe,

njoseph

, Zdenek, Boniface, ArcAngel9, JacobSavage, PeregrineV

[curiouskarmadog]

curiouskarmadog

Spent the whole day complaining about Darthe, then went on about wanting Zstife or KJ votes. Leaning strong scum.

I did what now?...please post where I "went on about wanting Ztife votes"....

[curiouskarmadog]

curiouskarmadog

Spent the whole day complaining about Darthe, then went on about wanting Zstife or KJ votes. Leaning strong scum.

I did what now?...please post where I "went on about wanting Ztife votes"....

also I am noting you sort of gloss over my jeck/girth/UVape hate....any reason?

[Aj The Epic]

Because I wasn't there to give a full fucking analysis on everyone. I gave an overview. I didn't go indepth, but you were much more focused on KJ and Zstife.

[StrangerCoug]

Sorry guys, it's going to have to be tomorrow

A lot of shit came up today with school issues

Please remember to post under the MattP account. That'll keep everybody from getting confused.

Didn't get a chance to read because I'll be

V/LA

until 1/27.

Got it.

[Albus Dumbledore]

You aren't full of it, are you Matt?

I have a pretty well-known track record

I'll let my actions woo you

Woo me.

VOTE: MattP

You make votes like this on page 85???

Okay, it's official, Matt's scum.

He was already looking bad, but this?

This just pushed him well over the limit.

I.... actually agree.

Vote: MattP

Yer a wizard, sonny

[Albus Dumbledore]

Also would be very happy with a JacobSavage death.