The Reckoning II: Invitational - BLOODY CONCLUSION!

[Confirmed Town]

Okay, yeah, I wanna lynch Axxle now.

[Confirmed Town]

Also, just going to throw this out there: Nuwen was a voteless mafia goon in one of the UPick's (one of Reck's, IIRC). Being voteless isn't

necessarily

a town tell here. However, D1 fishing for the reason for said votelessness is a definite scumtell.

[Axxle]

Also, just going to throw this out there: Nuwen was a voteless mafia goon in one of the UPick's (one of Reck's, IIRC). Being voteless isn't

necessarily

a town tell here. However, D1 fishing for the reason for said votelessness is a definite scumtell.

Why? If I was scum I'd know if scum did it, if I was and scum didn't do it I'd assume it was part of his role.

[Confirmed Town]

As scum you want to know whether Trollie is not-a-threat by virtue of being voteless, or if there's a Vote Thief out there that you potentially have to worry about.

Townies shouldn't seem to give a fuck. Singer herself said to me JUST NOW that she wondered, but didn't bother asking becuase she figured she'd find out eventually.

Scum, however, have an agenda. Unless the scumgroup is COMPLETELY VANILLA, they have multiple actions to coordinate across multiple nights, as part of a plan to win a game.

Like. That's the entire reason that behavioral tells EXIST between towns and scums.

Are you really trying to tell me that rolefishing is a town/null tell?

'Cause if so... I'm nooooooot really buying it. Show me that you have a history of early-game rolefishing as town, and explain to me the protown benefit that knowing Trollie's votelessness provides to YOU personally.

[nhammen]

nhammen, can you explain for me why your vote is still on UT? Your initial reasoning was kinda shitty.

Because the reasoning on UT is still better than any of the reasoning that has been promoted for any other wagons so far. In my mind, the options are UT and the nonfactors, and the game hasn't been open long enough to accuse a nonfactor of active lurking. Hell, I only really get to post once a day. And that's with me blowing off my homework to post on Monday. I can easily understand people who haven't had a chance to make much of an impact yet. So, I'm sticking with UT. Unless I have reasons to believe that these claims that look very fake are not actually fake.

Note: I have not caught up yet, and I hope to do so before the USA game starts.

[Axxle]

Are you really trying to tell me that rolefishing is a town/null tell?

Absolutely not, I just don't think that I'd get much out of this particular information as scum. I think his answer will help me better understand his alignment.

[adorkable]

Even if one of {Fate, Reck, UT} are scum, I'm fairly certain that the scums are LOVING this level of distraction. We need more fringe players to give more opinions on more people.

Agreed. I was thinking everyone involved in the giant shouting match is probs town and scum are sitting back doing nothing as usual.

I mean, it's happened in all the other Reckoning invitationals, right?

Okay, yeah, I wanna lynch Axxle now.

Why am I actually agreeing with you guys for once.

Although my read is based more off gut/the general tone of his post where he gave reads on Trollie/nhammen, not specifically the rolefishing thing. Still, we're okay with this:

unvote Vote Axxle

[Axxle]

y do some ppl have no number next to them?

I think those are the people who have not had a vote on them the entire game.

[adorkable]

Hey Matt, what happened to the insatiable bloodlust w/r/t us being lynched today?

I kind of miss it.

[MattP]

Hey Matt, what happened to the insatiable bloodlust w/r/t us being lynched today?

I kind of miss it.

You said one thing that made me MOMENTARILY want me to put my tail between my legs regarding you

[adorkable]

Hey Matt, what happened to the insatiable bloodlust w/r/t us being lynched today?

I kind of miss it.

You said one thing that made me MOMENTARILY want me to put my tail between my legs regarding you

oh baby

[MattP]

yea whatever one thing also kdowns is scum yadayada

[Axxle]

adorkable: what do you think of nhammen's response to your question?

[nhammen]

You have not given convincing reasons for why UT is scum other than "what the fuck."

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nhammen seems to be behaving pretty much like he does as town in face to face, so that's a townread.

Trollie seems to be acting like a voteless player, hard to get into a game you have very little say in. I'm guessing more likely town than not. Actually... I'm a bit curious as to why he's voteless.

@Trollie, are you voteless because of your role or because of someone elses role?

Dude... I'm pretty sure he has explained why he's voteless. Try iso.

Also, just going to throw this out there: Nuwen was a voteless mafia goon in one of the UPick's (one of Reck's, IIRC). Being voteless isn't

necessarily

a town tell here. However, D1 fishing for the reason for said votelessness is a definite scumtell.

Hmmm... I can sorta see this. I mean, there have been so many soft or fakeclaims in this game so far, and nobody else has asked for reasoning. Although, if the mason claims had wanted to solidify their claim to everyone else, I would have asked for nameclaims, so I can kinda understand the logic coming from town. But that would only have been if they wanted their claims to be solid.

I guess this is better than my UT vote, so
VOTE: Axxle

Also, I'm surprised multiple people think I'm playing similarly to F2F. I was sure that I have been more active than F2F... I guess not. sadface.

Of course, Axxle could just be copying Confirmed on that front. OK, very confident in this new vote now. Whether the singlork's thoughts on me are true or not, it looks like Axxle was repeating what Singlork said.

[MattP]

Nhammen speaking in complete, coherent sentences in a mafia game is really throwing me into a tailspin

The difference between this and f2f is insane

[adorkable]

hey hohum I miss you come baaaaaaaaaack

nhammen, I had questions for you and then you effectively answered them while I was formulating a post with those questions. So, new question: are you psychic?

axxle: I am a fan of "show, don't tell."

[MattP]

Ok, now two things. You can be town, which effectively makes you a dick.

[adorkable]

?

but why

[MattP]

You should've answered my question about the reads, it didn't HARM YOU as town, you just did it to make my life difficult

[Axxle]

Dude... I'm pretty sure he has explained why he's voteless. Try iso.

now I see it.

Also, I'm surprised multiple people think I'm playing similarly to F2F. I was sure that I have been more active than F2F... I guess not. sadface.

Of course, Axxle could just be copying Confirmed on that front. OK, very confident in this new vote now. Whether the singlork's thoughts on me are true or not, it looks like Axxle was repeating what Singlork said.

You are more active here, but I assumed that was because you have hours and days to process information instead of seconds and minutes. Your town f2f is quite a bit more reserved than your scum f2f, you seem to not like being wrong so you wait much longer to do anything as town, many times not until you're prompted. That's what it seems like you're doing here.

axxle: I am a fan of "show, don't tell."

Wanted to make sure you didn't just drop a read.

[nhammen]

No, adorkable, I am not psychic, sorry. What question did I ninja?

OK, Axxle that is actually a good explanation for the similarities. Now my confidence in the vote is decreased... But it's still better than UT.

On a non-game-related note, the soccer game was 5 hours ago, but I thought it was at 9, so I just sat in this bar's parking lot for an hour for no reason. Well, at least it was close enough to the Subway to leech off of the Subway's WIFI, so that I had an opportunity to catch up on this game.

[xRECKONERx]

Ended up playing three games, now am messing around with my new shiny jailbroken iPad and figuring out foodstuffs, will get around to reading up/answering questions soon

[TheTrollie]

Presumably because nobody has voted for them yet.

Trollie, would you be content with a UT lynch? If not, then who? Supposing I were to go on V/LA for five days and proxy my vote to you, how would you use it?

id vote for UT.

[TheTrollie]

okok im bored, time to read this game

[TheTrollie]

well i just wanted to make sure you were saying you were both town because the mod said so or if you just assumed it or whatever because the role was masons.

this makes me want to lynch nhammen.

nhammen's town

NOPE IM MASONS WITH UT FAGGOT

this is still true i assume?