Mini 1420: The Beginning Of The End (Game Over)

[JasonWazza]

VOTE COUNT 2.15

[4] q21: Nachomamma8, Kthxbye, Ztife, DeathRowKitty,
[3] Goodmorning: q21, Slandaar, Psyche,
[2] Ztife: Jennifer, Goodmorning,

Not Voting: Kwll,

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-24 23:57:13)

[JasonWazza]

Mod note: Psyche is unable to post (i have been informed by MattP) so will be replaced

[Kthxbye]

Ok, I know I've been pretty useless so far this game.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GM

Can easily and with clear conscious switch ^that to a Ztife vote. Here's why:

Eff it. I'll switch cuz Nacho makes sense (as usual). I've never played with GM before, but Nacho sounds sincere.
Am I sheeping? Hell yeah I am. Am I buddying nacho? Yup. Don't like it? Start a wagon.

VOTE: q21

For the record I'm willing to lynch this scum as well

q21 today, psyche tomorrow.

Wait a second, I'm scum you dolt, remember? No?...Odd, because you literally posted it on the previous page! Scum-face number 1

Slandaar, that is probably the worst argument I've ever seen.

I don't really know how I feel about this q21 thing, he does give off a weird sort of feeling to me and he is in the small group of people I'm not calling Town, but I just don't know if he's the best lynch right this second. Gut's not that great to base a case on.
I am willing to deadline hammer him though, and intend to do so barring some claim of importance sometime Sunday morning EST.

Wow, it literally doesn't get more distancing from a mislynch and fence-sitty than this post right here. Scum-face number 2.

We lynch Z or GM today. Obviously we don't lynch Q and if we have a doc in the house, they'd better do their fucking job....OH HO! We DO have a doc in the house (claimed at least)...tonight should be interesting for scum if slandaar is fake claiming....

I'm a super awesome PR that is gonna be very useful tonight btw, can't wait to claim! Better yet, I hope I get to go last so I can see if scum try and fake claim it! Just kidding, I'm VT and conf town by our cop (yeah, I believe the claim barring a counter claim).

[Kthxbye]

Actually....

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ztife

Ztife is on the Q wagon and GM is avoiding it till deadline. Again, either or, both are scum.

[JasonWazza]

Malakittens replaces Psyche effective immediately

[goodmorning]

HEY WHOA

GUESS WHAT KTHX

i actually didn't have a strong read on q21 _{(and still don't really)}, sorry i didn't realize you're not allowed to have null reads with vague weird gut stuff day 2, my bad

OR SOMETHING

Hi malakittens, happy reading.

[Kthxbye]

Ok scum.

[Nachomamma8]

mala, claim.

[Malakittens]

Let me catch the fuck up. I'm on page 9.

I'm a VT.

[Nachomamma8]

choose someone to claim next
jesus

[Malakittens]

NOU.

Uh, let's go with Z. One of his posts was noncommittal in my current review. I also think my review is getting too big. I may post it in sets to avoid a WoT.

[Nachomamma8]

no just fucking wall me

[goodmorning]

I second the wall motion, those things are CRAZY

[Kthxbye]

I first and second the lynch of GM some time very soon. (read: before or after Zt)

[Malakittens]

no just fucking wall me

I'll wall you baby. <3

[Malakittens]

Roar.

So, looking at Joel. I read his first post as cryptic because it's not really sure what he was referring too due to lack of content. Though, I have to agree with him that sometimes it's a town-tell to hop around wagons, but other times it's not. I think it's too early right now to call someone town for that.
The fact he also says anyone who isn't on the action draws his attention, but he's not really in on the action himself.
(Watch Listed)

I like Jennifer's post 42.
I also believe it's a nice hiding spot for scum to just go after lurkers.

Is it just me, but I do not understand Rondar's vote on Jennifer. I feel as if it's ill placed. I'm not even sure if he has a reason for voting her. He says he does, but doesn't say it outloud. Guessing games suck.

Slandaar: What kind of useless questions is that? (53)

Warming up to the fact DRK is scum. Not for sheeping for Rondar, but for being so damn sketchy. Huge gut feel, FoS.

Really, Kthx. He is town, why?

DRK's post 84 has given me yet another scum ping. Mainly due to keeping reads close to the chest which could future give a great reason to hop votes.

Nice, I hate my own slot's post 88. Complaining about pages to read overnight/during the day is really scummy to me. I have recently seen some scum players complain about it.

Slandaar's OMGUS towards my own slot. Wtf.
So what was your purpose of asking GM those questions? What did you get out of it? Seemed like useless filler posts to me.

Took you so long to answer that until poked. I would have gave my results of a reaction test right away.

Hmmm. Not sure what to make of the last line of DRK's post 104.
I already know my own alignment, but if I was a speculator looking in - I would have been convinced that this post is a telegraphed 'HEY SCUM BUDDY CALM THE HELL DOWN'.

Okay Jennifer definitely feels town. I don't get the wagon on her. I think it's scum motivated. If I had to pick the scum on the wagon it's DRK.

Kthx - way to ping the radar. Seriously. You were town last game we played and you were bitching about the lack of content, but now you are doing opposite. (FoS)

... @ GM's last post. Feels like he's just trying to post something without really trying. It feels forced.
(Watch List)

Jason I have the urge to kick you. /Kicks Jason.

OHGUISE- Slandaar saw the same thing I did. At first his post reminded me of the same game where he called my Mason Partner scum and then never elaborated, but this time he did.

Okay Joel's post 183 is opportunistic as hell. (FoS)

Kthx - I don't like how you came back to post a post that was directed at you. Nice you come when called.

Q21 feels town. I like how he unvotes when he feels his vote isn't in the right place. He's applying pressure.

Ztife's post is um, bad. He jumps on one of the biggest wagon's without reading or posting content. (FoS)

Okay, Slandaar might be town. Saying might because he's applying pressure and he's in my head.

(GETOUTOFMYHEADMAN)

The fact Kthx is trying to put meta on another different player is disturbing. Not two people are the same - don't ever trying to apply one play style to someone totally different.

I

kinda

like DRK's post 257. I don't get the reason why she would put the damn metaphor into it. It's basically adding nothing. Feels as if she's trying to give too much explanation for a vote that could be explained without going round-round.
Let's see if she follows up on the Z-Om exchange in another post.

Oh, okay that's it. I had enough.

Vote: DRK

Z is fencesitting and his post #270 is noncommittal. (FoS)

If I had two votes. I'd vote you along with DRK.

What the actual fuck. Kthx - that hammer was HORRID. That is completely scummy as fuck.

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Care to explain your reasons on voting Q21, Kthx and even DRK? I'd ask Pysche, but I'm his current replacement.

Kthx's. I said it last game and I'll say it again. The hammer you did comes off shady and maybe I don't like lynching without giving time to claim. You know if Eller actually happened to be PR - I'd put fire on your ass right now. This is not town play to just randomly hammer.

I also don't like the part of your post that says well I can see Q or GM going either way. Feels like a lax attempt of giving a nice jump in the future to either wagon if they started to build.

@Jen:

It's like saying it's to bold of a move to be a scum move.

@Q21: If you think scum is on the wagon why are you voting for someone off the wagon?

/stabs Jason. Die.

@Nacho: I don't see how Z or Joel is town. I dislike your lack of explanations. Explain, please?

Also, why can't it be a bad vig? Why does it have to be a SK?

@Kwll:

You say we are good on activity, but basically toss out a vote that's entirely meta related, but no comments on anything else that has happened during Day 1 or current day. What?

@Slandaar:

Whatttt da fuck. Why are you trying to out the vig.

DKR is being too twitchy and very paranoid regarding the massclaim. I think she has something to hide. Possibly three things for that; she's either scum, a SK or the vig itself.

@GM:

Nice. Let's sheep a really bad vote by Kwll that's strictly doing nothing to help us out. Also sheeping DKR who is being sketchy as hell.

@Kwll:

Post a damn read other than Slandaar.

@DRK: Gauh. Out of my head, kthx?

Dear lord. The Nacho vs Slandaar hurts my eyes. It looks town vs. town as hell.

@whoever:

I still don't see how Z is town.

Okay Kwll is scummy as fuck. First game he replaced in as town he at least attempted to read. He didn't vote someone based on a shitty meta case and he's seriously disinterested as fuck. He hasn't given a single read out other than Slandaar. (Okay, now I see some reads coming out)

He's hopped onto high wagons and has quickly gotten off of them. The read on Psyche seems opportunistic as fuck since people has aired suspicion on that slot. He's looking at Z, but hasn't really given a clear read. Has GM as a town read based on meta - nothing really other than gut, meta and nothing related to this game specifically.

He defends Q by asking why do people want him lynched and then jumps onto the wagon.

(If Q is scum - which I really am not certain - I think Kwll is his partner)

Vote: Kwll

Soooooooooooo, basically.

I have this as reads:

Scum Pool:

Kwll
DRK
GM
Z
Kthx

Town Pool:

Slandaar
Nacho
Jen

Null-leaning town Pool:

Q21

[Nachomamma8]

WHY ARE YOU VOTING KWLL

[Nachomamma8]

Nice, I hate my own slot's post 88. Complaining about pages to read overnight/during the day is really scummy to me. I have recently seen some scum players complain about it.

why did you say this?

I already know my own alignment, but if I was a speculator looking in - I would have been convinced that this post is a telegraphed 'HEY SCUM BUDDY CALM THE HELL DOWN'.

or this?

I kinda like DRK's post 257. I don't get the reason why she would put the damn metaphor into it. It's basically adding nothing. Feels as if she's trying to give too much explanation for a vote that could be explained without going round-round.

that's DRK's posting style and it is what makes him enjoyable
don't attack playstyle

I don't see how Z or Joel is town. I dislike your lack of explanations. Explain, please?

joel/kwll is town mainly from kwll being completely fucking different from last time we played together and he was scum
in particular, the "short and sweet cases" exchange we had was REALLY FUCKING AWESOME and was kwll bleeding town

Also, why can't it be a bad vig? Why does it have to be a SK?

they suck too bad to be a vig

[Nachomamma8]

also please clarify that DRK scumread
and why is q21 leaning town and not just town?

[Malakittens]

Cause he's scummy as fuck.

[Nachomamma8]

NO
NO
THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER I WANTED MALA
THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED AT ALL

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Malakittens

choose who you want to go next in the massclaim please

[Malakittens]

Nice, I hate my own slot's post 88. Complaining about pages to read overnight/during the day is really scummy to me. I have recently seen some scum players complain about it.

why did you say this?

I already know my own alignment, but if I was a speculator looking in - I would have been convinced that this post is a telegraphed 'HEY SCUM BUDDY CALM THE HELL DOWN'.

or this?

I kinda like DRK's post 257. I don't get the reason why she would put the damn metaphor into it. It's basically adding nothing. Feels as if she's trying to give too much explanation for a vote that could be explained without going round-round.

that's DRK's posting style and it is what makes him enjoyable
don't attack playstyle

I don't see how Z or Joel is town. I dislike your lack of explanations. Explain, please?

joel/kwll is town mainly from kwll being completely fucking different from last time we played together and he was scum
in particular, the "short and sweet cases" exchange we had was REALLY FUCKING AWESOME and was kwll bleeding town

Also, why can't it be a bad vig? Why does it have to be a SK?

they suck too bad to be a vig

1. It makes me twitch. I don't like it.

2. That's what it looks like when you read it and it gave me a bad vibe. I'm brutally honest as fuck right now. I'm going to speak my mind.

3. Might be enjoyable for you, but it's not for me. It makes his post seem fuller than it really is.

4. Kwll is not bleeding town. He's opportunistic as hell. He even left a door wide open to vote Q in the future if the time seems fit.

5. Fine.

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For the DBK's read.

At first it started out as gut - I'll admit.
I didn't like the fact the reads weren't be given out and to be that's shady as hell.
His posts seem filler than they really are because he posts things that aren't necessary. So some of the posts are content, but half of it's fluff.
Doesn't really follow up on things she/he said they would.
Twitchy as fuck like there's something to hide.

Q21 -

Other than the cop claim there is distinct evidence that the cop claim might be fake.

Now - if he was really a cop with a town read on Kkthx -this would not have been posted by Q21.

If he knew that Kthx was town he would not have tried to break down that VCA like he did. If I had a cop town read - I would attempt to help out the case for reactions alone.


So, whether or not Q21's post somehow read town. His cop read does not make sense to me. maybe i'ts because it's past my bedtime or something.

[goodmorning]

@ GM's last post. Feels like he's just trying to post something without really trying. It feels forced.

Not sure which last post you are referring to.

@GM:Nice. Let's sheep a really bad vote by Kwll that's strictly doing nothing to help us out. Also sheeping DKR who is being sketchy as hell.

I don't find DKR that sketchy. Also would never sheep kwll in a trillion years. AND we've been through the stupid Slandaar thing, as I'm sure you noticed in your reading.

Why let Nacho rush you into popcorning to Ztife?

I've seen kwll replace in as Scum. This is pretty dissimilar. Also the joels stuff was really Town for him.

PEDIT:
@Nacho: she picked Ztife already

Weird how none of that wall was that useful, it was all just recent nonsense and personal experience and ewwwwww
Also it's really weird how similar these reads are to the ones Psyche seems to have had.
And when I say weird...
Well...
I don't mean interesting.


PPEDIT:
Are you sure we're thinking of the same kwll here?

Post thinking edit:
I hate everything.

[Nachomamma8]

hey goodmorning

Vote: Malakittens