NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[Majiffy]

Everyone seems to have support for lynching me, and yet a wagon won't happen.

There are only two logical steps we can take from this fact;
1) I'm scum, and all the people "up for lynching me" are buddies who don't want to bus but don't want to stick out in the event of me flipping scum.
2) I'm town, and all the people "up for lynching me" are scum who want me lynched but don't want to stick out for actively pushing when I flip town.

Either way, we can conclude there is scum in the passive supporters.
Good day.

[UberNinja]

Everyone seems to have support for lynching me, and yet a wagon won't happen.

There are only two logical steps we can take from this fact;
1) I'm scum, and all the people "up for lynching me" are buddies who don't want to bus but don't want to stick out in the event of me flipping scum.
2) I'm town, and all the people "up for lynching me" are scum who want me lynched but don't want to stick out for actively pushing when I flip town.

Either way, we can conclude there is scum in the passive supporters.
Good day.

except for mollie, right?

at least you agree on rev

rev dies before majiffy

[Majiffy]

except for mollie, right?

Mollie's being stupid atm.

[AngryPidgeon]

AngryPidgeon, how likely do you think it is that a) we're at MyLo and b) if IAI is scum he's throwing us one of his buddies?

a) 0.4%
b) Considerably more possible. I don't know.

[UberNinja]

except for mollie, right?

Mollie's being stupid atm.

yeah but stupid =/= scum

AngryPidgeon, how likely do you think it is that a) we're at MyLo and b) if IAI is scum he's throwing us one of his buddies?

a) 0.4%
b) Considerably more possible. I don't know.

neither of those are even remotely possible

[UberNinja]

P.S.

[UberNinja]

Associative tells are only any good when you have a scum flip, Uber Goober.

false

you have clearly never solved this riddle

Einstein wrote this riddle last century and said that 98% of the world's population would NOT be able to solve it.
Are you a part of that 98%?

There are 5 houses that are each a different colour.
There is a person of a different nationality in each house.
The 5 owners drink a certain drink. They each smoke a certain brand of cigarettes and also have a certain pet. No owner has the same pet, smokes the same brand of cigarettes nor drinks the same drink.
The question is. "Who has the fish?"

CLUES

1. The British man lives in the red house.
2. The Swedish man has a dog for a pet.
3. The Danish man drinks tea.
4. The green house is to the left of the white house.
5. The owner of the green house drinks coffee.
6. The person that smokes Pall Mall has a bird.
7. The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhill.
8. The person that lives in the middle house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The person that smokes Blend, lives next to the one that has a cat.
11. The person that has a horse lives next to the one that smokes Dunhill.
12. The one that smokes Bluemaster drinks beer.
13. The German smokes Prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to a blue house.
15. The person that smokes Blend, has a neighbour that drinks water.

Do you want the answer? Do you think you are in the top 2% of the world's population?

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh god. Uberninja is an IRL roleblocker. lynch nao.

[UberNinja]

solve it, angry bird

then you are allowed to speak

[TheReverend]

I kinda hope you are town ninja, just so you feel like an uber dick when you see my flip.

i am an uber dick either way

but thanks for betraying that you don't actually have a real scum read on me

I haven't been calling AJ scum all day. I made one comment suggesting he was posturing. My scum reads on AJ are from way before today. I've been inconsistent with AJ because I'm town and I don't know his role, duh.

ohhhh that makes PERFECT sense

so when exactly did he flip from being a scum read (all game) to a town read (all of a sudden, today)?

lol you're really good at misrepping, aren't you?

"I kinda hope you are town" does not equate to "I think you're town". Nice try.

AJ has not been a scum read all game. I've been basically unsure about him and you're gleefully doing your best to link me to him because my read on him has been inconsistent (which in itself is consistent with my town meta).

You are not behaving like town here ninja. This is opportunism at its finest. It's funny how you've been inconsistent with your read on me yet inconsistency is all of a sudden a scum tell when it's somebody else. I was obvtown until it became clear that your buddying was failing.

[ActionDan]

in lieu of AP, I'll answer those.

a) not mylo because mylo = 5 scum in 12 players = 6 scum to start with in a 21 player game = huge scum team = unbalanced (and we already know that scum had the powerful mafia jailkeeper).

b) Have you not detected by now the raw emotion and vitriol emanating from my posts? If we were both scum this day would have been long over, and I'd never inject such vehemence in ridiculing this town.

[UberNinja]

I kinda hope you are town ninja, just so you feel like an uber dick when you see my flip.

i am an uber dick either way

but thanks for betraying that you don't actually have a real scum read on me

I haven't been calling AJ scum all day. I made one comment suggesting he was posturing. My scum reads on AJ are from way before today. I've been inconsistent with AJ because I'm town and I don't know his role, duh.

ohhhh that makes PERFECT sense

so when exactly did he flip from being a scum read (all game) to a town read (all of a sudden, today)?

lol you're really good at misrepping, aren't you?

yes

"I kinda hope you are town" does not equate to "I think you're town". Nice try.

what it means is you don't actually think i'm scum, you just want it to look like you do

AJ has not been a scum read all game. I've been basically unsure about him and you're gleefully doing your best to link me to him because my read on him has been inconsistent (which in itself is consistent with my town meta).

self provided meta is useless

You are not behaving like town here ninja. This is opportunism at its finest. It's funny how you've been inconsistent with your read on me yet inconsistency is all of a sudden a scum tell when it's somebody else. I was obvtown until it became clear that your buddying was failing.

that's just my meta

oh wait

[UberNinja]

in lieu of AP, I'll answer those.

a) not mylo because mylo = 5 scum in 12 players = 6 scum to start with in a 21 player game = huge scum team = unbalanced (and we already know that scum had the powerful mafia jailkeeper).

b) Have you not detected by now the raw emotion and vitriol emanating from my posts? If we were both scum this day would have been long over, and I'd never inject such vehemence in ridiculing this town.

convince me in a sentence or less to vote for IAI instead of you

i will bet you actual money that it can't be done

[Majiffy]

except for mollie, right?

Mollie's being stupid atm.

yeah but stupid =/= scum

I'm aware. Your point?

Associative tells are only any good when you have a scum flip, Uber Goober.

false

you have clearly never solved this riddle

Your analogy is weak. Do you know ~2/3 of every player's roles and/or win conditions? If not, then your riddle has nothing to do with this argument. And if so, by all means, present your information to the table.

[ActionDan]

Associative tells are only any good when you have a scum flip, Uber Goober.

false

you have clearly never solved this riddle

Einstein wrote this riddle last century and said that 98% of the world's population would NOT be able to solve it.
Are you a part of that 98%?

There are 5 houses that are each a different colour.
There is a person of a different nationality in each house.
The 5 owners drink a certain drink. They each smoke a certain brand of cigarettes and also have a certain pet. No owner has the same pet, smokes the same brand of cigarettes nor drinks the same drink.
The question is. "Who has the fish?"

CLUES

1. The British man lives in the red house.
2. The Swedish man has a dog for a pet.
3. The Danish man drinks tea.
4. The green house is to the left of the white house.
5. The owner of the green house drinks coffee.
6. The person that smokes Pall Mall has a bird.
7. The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhill.
8. The person that lives in the middle house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The person that smokes Blend, lives next to the one that has a cat.
11. The person that has a horse lives next to the one that smokes Dunhill.
12. The one that smokes Bluemaster drinks beer.
13. The German smokes Prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to a blue house.
15. The person that smokes Blend, has a neighbour that drinks water.

Do you want the answer? Do you think you are in the top 2% of the world's population?

only 4 pets are mentioned, dog, cat, horse, bird. There may or may not be a fish. The question can't be answered.

[UberNinja]

Associative tells are only any good when you have a scum flip, Uber Goober.

false

you have clearly never solved this riddle

Einstein wrote this riddle last century and said that 98% of the world's population would NOT be able to solve it.
Are you a part of that 98%?

There are 5 houses that are each a different colour.
There is a person of a different nationality in each house.
The 5 owners drink a certain drink. They each smoke a certain brand of cigarettes and also have a certain pet. No owner has the same pet, smokes the same brand of cigarettes nor drinks the same drink.
The question is. "Who has the fish?"

CLUES

1. The British man lives in the red house.
2. The Swedish man has a dog for a pet.
3. The Danish man drinks tea.
4. The green house is to the left of the white house.
5. The owner of the green house drinks coffee.
6. The person that smokes Pall Mall has a bird.
7. The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhill.
8. The person that lives in the middle house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The person that smokes Blend, lives next to the one that has a cat.
11. The person that has a horse lives next to the one that smokes Dunhill.
12. The one that smokes Bluemaster drinks beer.
13. The German smokes Prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to a blue house.
15. The person that smokes Blend, has a neighbour that drinks water.

Do you want the answer? Do you think you are in the top 2% of the world's population?

only 4 pets are mentioned, dog, cat, horse, bird. There may or may not be a fish. The question can't be answered.

it's called PoE dumbass

[UberNinja]

except for mollie, right?

Mollie's being stupid atm.

yeah but stupid =/= scum

I'm aware. Your point?

i have forgotten if there was ever even a point to begin with

Associative tells are only any good when you have a scum flip, Uber Goober.

false

you have clearly never solved this riddle

Your analogy is weak. Do you know ~2/3 of every player's roles and/or win conditions? If not, then your riddle has nothing to do with this argument. And if so, by all means, present your information to the table.[/quote]
my analogy is weak, but i have experience putting together something out of nothing

it's not working in this game so it makes me think i'm being played for a fool

[ActionDan]

go die in a hole UN.

[Majiffy]

It also doesn't state if the "first house" is counted chronologically from the left or right.

[Vifam]

Associative tells are only any good when you have a scum flip, Uber Goober.

false

you have clearly never solved this riddle

Einstein wrote this riddle last century and said that 98% of the world's population would NOT be able to solve it.
Are you a part of that 98%?

There are 5 houses that are each a different colour.
There is a person of a different nationality in each house.
The 5 owners drink a certain drink. They each smoke a certain brand of cigarettes and also have a certain pet. No owner has the same pet, smokes the same brand of cigarettes nor drinks the same drink.
The question is. "Who has the fish?"

CLUES

1. The British man lives in the red house.
2. The Swedish man has a dog for a pet.
3. The Danish man drinks tea.
4. The green house is to the left of the white house.
5. The owner of the green house drinks coffee.
6. The person that smokes Pall Mall has a bird.
7. The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhill.
8. The person that lives in the middle house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The person that smokes Blend, lives next to the one that has a cat.
11. The person that has a horse lives next to the one that smokes Dunhill.
12. The one that smokes Bluemaster drinks beer.
13. The German smokes Prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to a blue house.
15. The person that smokes Blend, has a neighbour that drinks water.

Do you want the answer? Do you think you are in the top 2% of the world's population?

only 4 pets are mentioned, dog, cat, horse, bird. There may or may not be a fish. The question can't be answered.

it's called PoE dumbass

lmao

[Majiffy]

my analogy is weak, but i have experience putting together something out of nothing

it's not working in this game so it makes me think i'm being played for a fool

So because you can't bullshit your way to a victory, you're being

played

for a fool?

Kay.

[Aj The Epic]

Scum reads, as requested:

IaI: Certainscum
Dan: Possiblescum
Vifam: Slight scum
PM: Confirmtown
Morhk: Confirmedtown
P_A: Probtown
AP: leantown
Majiffy: Lean scum
Bjork: probtown
Reverend: lean scum... LAL.
UN: lean town

This is funny that you'd tie me to Rev. But hey, so far we've heard about every stupid theory here. If, by chance, you do plan on deviating from the current lynches to me, I'd prefer you start now so you have some time left before rushing a decision.

[Vifam]

Where is the ActionDan lynch lets see it

[TheReverend]

what it means is you don't actually think i'm scum, you just want it to look like you do

No, it does not mean that at all, because I actually do think you're scum. I like how you and jiffy are trying to put some distance between you now. It's cute.

[I Am Innocent]

2051, AA9 has 0 votes
2305, AA9 has 4 votes (also when Lord was confirmed IC)
2700, AA9 flip announced

Here is all Dan's posts in that timeframe:

so this exploded.

Taking a shower, then sitting down here.

Nacho might be right on AA.

I saw the quoted post with the no lynch vote and I understand why he feels that way.

bak to reading.

sorry I'm really mad right now and I didn't finish my read-through. there's a lot of excitement with the claims but just take it a bit slow for now please. I don't want to rush this day. ty.

Re PereV: This is more gut based. But I really feel like I get PV. His early D1 Bitmap push was such a hard sell...I don't think scum PV would go for that. ITs just too far in left field. I think he actually believed he was on to something. Also I thought him asking AA9 for scummeta seemed fairly proactive for him. Also note he later insisted that he had something with his bitmap push and linked to a game he saw something similar. Hes town.

just like to say that's how I got the strong town-read on that slot

No votes. The entire day. The only day we lynched scum.

Not only no vote, but no accusation, nothing. Just tried to slow things down on the AA9 wagon while defending an earlier town read on that slot. Why would town Dan be so concerned with his earlier read though without highly suspecting AA9 at this point. And if he highly suspected AA9, why no vote. Only conclusion, Dan is scum trying to distance without bussing a roleblocker with a claimed cop out there...

Today he starts off the day attacking the setup. Then when I announce my investigation, he attacks me with a bunch of garbage hoping some of it sticks.

Really the only thing that is against me is the Matt investigation that I now know was tampered. To be honest, I can't fault anyone for not believing me. But why would scum IAI play this day the way I did. Why not come out swinging. Why not pick an easier target than I did, someone with 1 total vote post D1.

The only explanation is that I am the cop and that scum guessed correctly that I would investigate Matt. But I don't think they guessed right last night. As soon as Dan got to L-1, you know where he went with me. Trying to get my reads, which tells me he likely isn't the scum framer, but trying to get as much information for the framer. Well I'm not biting. If I survive this day, I will not give them any hints, I will force them to kill me once and for all.

At the end of the day, assuming this isn't MyLo which I really don't believe, this lynch doesn't matter as much as people are making. We're going to get scum, the only difference is how many confirmed town we start D6 with. So everyone not named AP, please reread Dan's Iso and ask if he seems scum. Ask yourself if IAI was scum, does his play make sense today. And don't let the paranoia get to you. You do those 3 things, and we'll get scum today.