Mini 1438: Gonzo Mafia (Scum Win)

[Majiffy]

now it's not scumhunting? despite trying to get clarification directly from you?

that and his posts are not coming from a town oriented POV. the initial fos was to get him engaged his reaction to pressure is to flail and I am not seeing town flail yet. if he can...I don't know scumhunt or something but so far all he is doing is

trying to engage me with ridiculous questions that he doesn't even seem interested in the answers to

, ask everyone why they have me as town. he isn't scumhunting at all.

Are you fucking kidding me? All you keep doing is avoiding addressing what was wrong with my initial vote on asians. "Putting someone at L-1 early because if they're scum they might self hammer" (YOU fucking said this in #281) is CRAP. Otherwise you just keep changing your tune to call whatever I've come out with since as "not from a town POV".

What is the town response to the pressure you're putting on me?

@Remembrance: what about what you just did is scumhunting?

Vote Count:

SE-Asians (L-4): I Am Innocent, Bacde, Human Destroyer
buldermar (L-6): SE-Asians
borkjerfkin (L-6): pirate mollie
mantisdreamz (L-6): Remembrance
Remembrance (L-6): Wisdom

Not Voting: Nachomamma8, mantisdreamz, AngelusW, kuror0, borkjerfkin, buldermar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is April 13th at 9:30 PM EST

[pirate mollie]

^bad post

yeah

mantis should at least check in before you vote her lol

she is a good player. I just want everyone to keep an eye on her.

[Remembrance]

#2 negative reinforcement. Don't control this game Wisdom. I've realized, I've been so busy reading I haven't been able to do my own thing since page 9. I do this kinda stuff.

[Wisdom]

Do your own thing then, nobody is stopping you.

[borkjerfkin]

#2 negative reinforcement. Don't control this game Wisdom. I've realized, I've been so busy reading I haven't been able to do my own thing since page 9. I do this kinda stuff.

I actually think I like this post.

[pirate mollie]

only responding to this so that borky doesn't whine about me ignoring him. I would like to check in on my other games and there things I would like to do.

now it's not scumhunting? despite trying to get clarification directly from you?

that and his posts are not coming from a town oriented POV. the initial fos was to get him engaged his reaction to pressure is to flail and I am not seeing town flail yet. if he can...I don't know scumhunt or something but so far all he is doing is

trying to engage me with ridiculous questions that he doesn't even seem interested in the answers to

, ask everyone why they have me as town. he isn't scumhunting at all.

Are you fucking kidding me? All you keep doing is avoiding addressing what was wrong with my initial vote on asians. "Putting someone at L-1 early because if they're scum they might self hammer" (YOU fucking said this in #281) is CRAP. Otherwise you just keep changing your tune to call whatever I've come out with since as "not from a town POV".

What is the town response to the pressure you're putting on me?

@Remembrance: what about what you just did is scumhunting?

no, it isn't crap. he could self hammer or some dumb town could hammer him intentionally or accidentally. so yeah, putting him at L1 at that particular time looks scummy. there were/still are a

lot

of players who have not checked in yet. I think town bork would have thought of this and scummy bork wouldn't have cared. yes I am fosing you for that. and no I am not changing my tune I am still finding you scummy.

maybe if you were town I could tell you. it is not to complain about the game, throw a hissy cos I fosed you and get all emo.

if you are town then start acting like town and I won't need to bug you! it would be nice to work together don't you think?

[borkjerfkin]

stop acting like i'm inconveniencing you to make you back your shit up. If you have other crap to do then do it.

there were/still are a lot of players who have not checked in yet. I think town bork would have thought of this and scummy bork wouldn't have cared. yes I am fosing you for that. and no I am not changing my tune I am still finding you scummy.

Then we're at an impasse; I reject your premise and I don't have anything else to say about it.

[buldermar]

VOTE: Mantis

Cool. I'll do that then.

I don't like how this post looks.

[buldermar]

@mollie
Really? Thread avoidance? I bet she just doesn't have time to read 20 pages yet. Same goes for Nacho. If they post and THEN start avoiding the thread, then you will have a point. But not now.

I've played a decent amount with Nacho and I'm absolutely convinced that he's inactive for reasons other than his alignment in this game.

[Remembrance]

Yes, he has been very busy lately. And is basically prod-dodging all of his games. He needs to count down on them.

[Remembrance]

*cut

@Buldermar, can you explain how you don't like how it looks?

[buldermar]

It bothers me that Wisdom from the very beginning has been absolutely convinced that the Asian-stunt was town-made, and now that I actually buy the idea of that hydra being town I can't help thinking that Wisdom saw this as a unique opportunity to gain some credit sniffing this one out right away with a priori knowledge of the hydras true alignment. Maybe I'm being overly paranoid. Someone mentioned that Wisdom's scum meta looked sort of like this - care to elaborate on that?

[Wisdom]

My scum meta actually doesn't look like this.
But sure, I'd love Sora to elaborate.

[buldermar]

*cut

@Buldermar, can you explain how you don't like how it looks?

I thought it looked opportunistic initially but your later posts which looks sincere suggests that it probably is just part of your play.

[buldermar]

My scum meta actually doesn't look like this.
But sure, I'd love Sora to elaborate.

Please don't start doing meta analysis on yourself, that kind of defeats the whole purpose.

[Wisdom]

Not doing it.

[pirate mollie]

@mollie
Really? Thread avoidance? I bet she just doesn't have time to read 20 pages yet. Same goes for Nacho. If they post and THEN start avoiding the thread, then you will have a point. But not now.

I've played a decent amount with Nacho and I'm absolutely convinced that he's inactive for reasons other than his alignment in this game.

I can confirm that nacho is busy.

however, mantis has been online and posting

[Wisdom]

Has she been posting in games where she needs to read 20 pages without having posted yet?

[pirate mollie]

It bothers me that Wisdom from the very beginning has been absolutely convinced that the Asian-stunt was town-made, and now that I actually buy the idea of that hydra being town I can't help thinking that Wisdom saw this as a unique opportunity to gain some credit sniffing this one out right away with a priori knowledge of the hydras true alignment. Maybe I'm being overly paranoid. Someone mentioned that Wisdom's scum meta looked sort of like this - care to elaborate on that?

I have never played with wisdom when he was scum but I

can

say that he does this as town. he is going to be trigger shy about going after mantis cos he and I mislynched her on d1 in a recent game, lol. fucking disaster. I don't know why I even read her as scum she wasn't doing any of her typical scum mantis but she wasn't being her typical town mantis either. I have not misread in her in a very long long long time. in the game I played with wisdom before that, mantis was in it too, and nacho spotted her early and then majiffy and then she started acting all scummy so I voted her and wisdom is screaming the whole time "mantis is town!!! ARGGGGGGHHHH!" and then she flipped scum.

[Wisdom]

Yeah I have failed at reading Mantis both times.
Third time's the charm.

[pirate mollie]

Has she been posting in games where she needs to read 20 pages without having posted yet?

she has posted in a game where she had to catch up on nearly that many. but I am not willing to go after her

right this second

.

but it does bring to mind that on d1 in the duck duck duck goose game scum barely posted on d1. if borky starts to look town then we need to start pressuring the lurkers. I am still not happy with se asia and I kind of agree with bc that the lynch felt right. I guess we can wait to get a better feel for the entire hydra.

[Wisdom]

I agree that we should not lynch anyone until everyone has posted enough.
I am Innocent is still a good lynch candidate, btw.

[Remembrance]

Rem's reads:
I count two scum slips by Wisdom so far.
But so many town tells, it is like 2 rain drops in the ocean.
Mollie is looking town.
But Buldermar is far more town looking.
Bacde I was iffy on. But then he was like, "hey, I'm town" and I was like, lol ok.
Humadestroyer used a case with Slandaar's cases supporting it. That's awesome because Slandaar is awesome. Prob town. Also, the last time someone gut read me as scum they were town (and I was town). I'm town again, and once again I got gut read. Gotta let the gut simmer, make sure it isn't lying to you. Then walk around the person a few times. Smell their shoes, see what they're eating, smell the roses and then vote them.

Se-asian, I'm just completely sick of this whine fest. Everytime it has happened the person always flips town and every time I want to lynch myself for voting them. I still hate Lincolm forever.

Bork: EH, an asset to scum, he might be bro-scum.

I am innocent is a jerk. I'll be gone for a bit.

[Remembrance]

*Scum tells

[Remembrance]

Oh yeah and it's late. So I'm not responsible for being wrong or responsible for anything.

*Ask Kuror0 for more details.