Mini 1484 - Pick Your Partners (Game Over)

[T S O]

Shrug, Egg, I think you are starting to tunnel hard here and see everything Mutley says as scummy. Provoked by your argument, and the fact Mutley claims bo told him so, I tried looking into games of bo and mutley playing together and found that in the first game I found http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/CwDkUhxRFWpi I will quote from dead topic post #106 here:

Bo said:

No but seriously this game is moving pretty slowly.
For the love of God I want Mutley to flip scum in one game he's in and town in another so that I could have the slightest possibility of reading him next game we're in together.

I stopped reading after that, if anyone feels like digging more they are welcomed but imo it's totally possible bo did tell him so.

Regardless of this whole argument I just feel that's wrong and we have better chance hitting on scum if we lynch TSO.

Do you want to give a case? Do you want to explain which alignment you think I am? Do you want to explain why, if I was Mafia, I would hardbus my partner for no reason?

[T S O]

VOTE: DBK

First you vote GNR for suggesting that we should discuss our lists. Then you vote Garantula for saying we shouldn't. That's suspicious.

I never suggested that. At all. Egg did when he voted me.


As for discussing our lists, I don't think we should. I think it kinda ruins the point of scumhunting and such.

Also, we esentially have 3 factions. One has a nightkill, so they should probably be found first. Finding mafia can wait. I'm loading my gun with silver bullets and going werewolf hunting

This really backs GNR being Mafia.

[T S O]

GNR - Mafia
Mutley - WW
Tochica or Haschel works out as Mafia, since I trust everyone else pretty well.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Mutleyddmc (4): Titus, Egg, Natirasha, T S O

T S O (3): Haschel Cedricson, Tochica, Mutleyddmc

Not voting (2): Guy_Named_Riggs, TheGarantula

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is September 18th, 9 p.m. CEST.

[Mutleyddmc]

Umm. I guess my post didn't go through earlier.

Anyway.

My point was missed. It's not so much about whether mutley was worried or not. It was more the fact that he said Bo can't read him and called it a bonus if he were scum. However, Bo hasn't seen Mutley as scum so it seemed like the impression that Bo can't read Mutley came from THIS GAME because Bo had Mutley as town. However, I concede this point after Tochica's post. I still think I have a damn good case outside of that point though.

It's actually a really poor wrong case

[Egg]

Nah

[Egg]

Nah

[Mutleyddmc]

awful case of confirmed bias is awful

[Natirasha]

awful case of no replacements biting is awful.

[Tochica]

TSO you saying that I've dismissed anything without addressing it is, well obviously wrong.

No, I don't want to make a case I will say couple of things though. First thing that pinged me about you was when you said you weren't on pj wagon because you weren't online, firstly because no one actually wondered why weren't you on pj wagon, people were wondering why you didn't mention him when he was one of the main things talked about on day one and secondary because it seemed you suspected gnr more. This however points more at you being ww (or so I thought) and I still think it's unlikely pj having the guts to name you like that, some seem not bothered by that but meh...

Then I didn't like that you didn't elaborate on this 'one of hc, drdo is mafia obviously' when whoever asked you, and when I asked you next day about the one part you again ignored it. Mind you I asked not only because you hadn't explained but because I was curious if there was any valid reason they are unlikely buddies.

I think you bussing drdo is entirely possible as it was likely he would get lynched anyway.

And then I think your behaviour became opportunistic and rushy around Mutley's wagon right after a post you said you don't know who you suspect most and why, and you didn't even comment on eggs case (until later, when a wagon formed on you), you were busy rebuking.

I just don't see how is Mutley that scummy, and the fact Egg is being left to push the wagon while people coast/ cheer from the sides makes me uneasy about the wagon itself. I think he is likely town and the only reason to lynch him today would be that he may get misslynched later when it's too late.

[T S O]

You don't see how Mutley is scummy? Are you fucking kidding me? While Pjovek got lynched d1

Mutley was voting NoLynch.

His ISO d1 consists of him trying to get himself quicklynched, asking about Xbox games, telling us his list was randomised and voting No Lynch WHILE PJOVEK WAS AT L-1. He didn't have the guts to bus him. There is no way you can think he's Town.

re. Pjovek and me your whole point is fluff because you're accusing me of being Mafia and as Mafia I have no affliation with Werewolves, so it's all useless. Not to mention it doesn't even work for me as WW either but that's a different matter.

"One of HC and Dr. Dolittle are Mafia." What do you want me to say here? I thought at least one of them was Mafia. I was right.

I don't think you're addressing my point here. I was pressuring Dr. Dolittle the whole day before getting on his wagon. It makes no sense for me to hardbus for no reason whatsoever.

Mutley's called Egg scum as well, btw.

Tochica, why do you want to keep Mutley alive so badly?

[Mutleyddmc]

The fact I didnt bus is probably an indicator that I am not werewolf

[Mutleyddmc]

You were pressuring the whole day before getting on his wagon. That ain't no hard bus. Starting the wagon and being the conductor now that's a hard bus

[Tochica]

What do you mean you were pressuring him whole day, you said one of him and hc is scum guaranteed and didn't answer when asked why. Don't act like distancing and then bussing when shit hits the fan is the most unheard of things. And actually looking at your iso day one you did mention a post of his being crap.

You can't tell me what's useless, I'd rather you comment on why you said you'd be on his wagon if you were online when looking at your iso you seemed to be hooked on gnr.

Also, Mutley day one could be viewed as scummy if one has enough town reads to go after lurkers, Mutley today doesn't give the vibes of scum getting lynched at all.

[TheGarantula]

TSO, I don't understand how the specifics you mentioned are scummy. Is this a meta argument about how he plays as scum?

[Titus]

Tochica, you seem to think I've ignored you a lot. It's not my intention. Link me to posts and I will answer that.

Mutley, you didn't do anything productive day 1. Claiming to not have bussed is not an indicator of not werewolf. I have to agree with TSO there.

[Mutleyddmc]

That was shameless self meta really. I love a bus. Therefore if you think I am werewolf for not bussing you are so Wrong.

[Titus]

Ugh meta. Please tell me you have something better.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Mutleyddmc (4): Titus, Egg, Natirasha, T S O

T S O (3): Haschel Cedricson, Tochica, Mutleyddmc

Not voting (2): Guy_Named_Riggs, TheGarantula

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is September 18th, 9 p.m. CEST.

Haschel Cedricson has been prodded.

[IceGuy]

Voidedmafia replaces Guy_Named_Riggs.

[Natirasha]

You're the savior we deserve, Voidedmafia.

[T S O]

I'm taking that to mean you don't think he's scum.

[Natirasha]

More like he's actually going to play and reinvigorate this thread.

[T S O]

But if he's scum, does it matter? He'll be doing his best to derail us.

Do you think that slot is scum?

[Natirasha]

GNR had a chance of being scum, I had him down mostly as a weak townie though.