Beacuse some of what she said was true. I'm sorry, by your logic, should town always rant and rave when under attack?
It's called trying to have a rational debate with someone.
You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
Claim is ok, I guess. Jester is really reaching with his legalistic arguments. Guy was asked to claim, and he did. If he had just said "Rumblebiffin" it would not have been at all helpful. So to lynch the guy for actually being helpful seems wrong headed.
What exactly is unhelpful about providing a name when asked for a nameclaim?
Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
Noir Mafia, a 13p bastard Mini Theme delayed until further notice.
If he had just said "Rumblebiifin", I for one -and almost certainly everyone else - would have said "Right, who the hell is that then?"
For the record I think you are town, but I just think you're over analyising and reaching here.
You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
In post 479, mozamis wrote:If he had just said "Rumblebiifin", I for one -and almost certainly everyone else - would have said "Right, who the hell is that then?"
For the record I think you are town, but I just think you're over analyising and reaching here.
Ironically players still had to check Google because they had no fucking clue who Rumblebuffin was. Because, "I'm a Rumblebuffin giant!" isn't as helpful as you'd like to think it is. Maybe,
maybe
if he had provided more paraphrased flavor like, "I'm Rumblebuffin, the giant who broke the fuck out of the door to the witch's fortress," then I'd buy your story that he was actually trying to help us understand who his character is.
Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
Noir Mafia, a 13p bastard Mini Theme delayed until further notice.
I'm simply saying that he he wasked for a nameclaim and he gave it. The fact that he gave a bit more information seems a nonsense reason for lynching him.
You've reached that age, Listy. 24, 25...Your muscles give up, they wave a little white flag of surrender and without any warning at all, you're suddenly a fat bastard...
In post 446, mnemonicdevice wrote:This game is getting interesting... I don't understand the whole reason why I was supposed to name claim initially but:
Alright, I am a Rumblebuffin giant.
Not sure who he is, haven't seen Narnia in quite a while.
Also, I like to say interesting. If you knew me in real life, I would say interesting a lot.
S
To those quibbling with the wording choice, note that MD states not knowing who 'he' is, implying that his character is a specific individual. I don't like that he had to have his claim pulled out over more than one post, but the confusing wording looks more like a town mistake than a scum slip to me.
In post 481, mozamis wrote:I'm simply saying that he he wasked for a nameclaim and he gave it. The fact that he gave a bit more information seems a nonsense reason for lynching him.
Mafia is all about looking at actions and analyzing the varying motivations that might lead to them. As it stands, I can't fathom any town motivation for including information that would not naturally accompany a nameclaim.
This guy is scum. If you want me to look back and point out scummy things he's done then I'm positive I'll be able to find some, but it might look like confirmation bias since it's not the controlling reason I think he's scum.
Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
Noir Mafia, a 13p bastard Mini Theme delayed until further notice.
killerjester, I fail to understand your remote level of confidence given the lack of rationale that you have provided throughout this game. At the moment, I am not leaning on MD being scum and I want a counter-wagon (Hermy)
Ugh.... I misread my pm. I haven't seen narnia in a while, so I thought that there was a group of people called "rumblebuffin giants" and that I was one of them. I am a vanilla townie though.
Still working on catching up here but I am not feeling the whole mnem thing here. Granted it is a fairly obscure character in the book. granted he muffed his claim, granted he just said he was VT when not at L-1 with intent to hammer on him, however it feels genuine. It feels like uggh I dont know the flavor and I dont want to get in trouble with quoting too much. I think scum would have been far more careful in their fake claim. Be more rehearsed with it.
I have replaced into games where I was not really familiar with the theme and flavor and just gone clueless on it. For example, in 90s Cartoon Mafia I was the one shot mass commuter as Ms Frizzle from the Magic School Bus. I muffed it because the role PM actually called her something slightly different, which I really did not pay much attention to, I was focused on what my role was and once I knew I was town, and what my pIower was, I pretty much did not pay much attention to the rest of the role PM. Had I been scum in that game, I would have paid a LOT more attention and knew what to claim properly as a fake claim.
Because I was at least familiar with The Magic School Bus, though many of the other characters I had no clue at all on, I was able to give town enough for them to realize I was not scum in that game.
I can imagine if someone was not familiar with the books and only watched the movie or the BBC miniseries, that they might be confused. Or have no experience at all with Narnia.
There are other giants, Some fought on the side of the White Witch, but were not named. In Book 4 The Silver Chair, a group of Giants is also mentioned who are in league with the Lady of the Green Kirtle who also was an evil witch.
But as far as I remember, that was the only named giant in the first book.
In post 485, mnemonicdevice wrote:Ugh.... I misread my pm. I haven't seen narnia in a while, so I thought that there was a group of people called "rumblebuffin giants" and that I was one of them. I am a vanilla townie though.
No.
No no no no
Nono
No
No
No
There is no way you misread something like that. Flavor is nowhere near name.
Lynch it with fire. Please. Someone. Anyone. I'm not crazy I swear.
Lord of Lynch protect us. For the Night is dark and full of scum.
Noir Mafia, a 13p bastard Mini Theme delayed until further notice.
In post 485, mnemonicdevice wrote:Ugh.... I misread my pm. I haven't seen narnia in a while, so I thought that there was a group of people called "rumblebuffin giants" and that I was one of them. I am a vanilla townie though.
That is pretty bad.
If you flip scum, I think I might look to Rach, but Rach, how do you think that the evidence against MD involving his claim makes the other reasons for voting him illegitimate?
I am not saying anything about other reasons peeps are voting for him I am just saying based on the claim I dont buy into KJs adamant avowal that it is clearly a scum fake claim because see how he messed it up. My esperience has been scum are less likely to fumble than town. As in the example I posted.
In post 489, RachMarie wrote:I am not saying anything about other reasons peeps are voting for him I am just saying based on the claim I dont buy into KJs adamant avowal that it is clearly a scum fake claim because see how he messed it up. My esperience has been scum are less likely to fumble than town. As in the example I posted.
Yeah, I buy that. Guess that's fair. What do you make of the wagin on him in general?
Sorry, just noticed this again (I was in a rush when I first saw it and didn't have time to post, and then forgot). So, he had some bad logic involving my use of the word honestly even though he later claimed that him saying interesting wasn't a scumtell when there was no difference, and that is pretty hypocritical and scummy. He refused and continues to refuse to explain his BA read and how he originally came to the conclusion that BA was the Ice Queen. His read on me changed without explanation, or he forgot about it, even though I was busy with life and just not posting, which shouldn't make him any less suspicious of me if it was genuine suspicion. And then he had that whole Named Townie claim, which came out poorly, so yes. That is why I'm voting for him still.
In post 489, RachMarie wrote:I am not saying anything about other reasons peeps are voting for him I am just saying based on the claim I dont buy into KJs adamant avowal that it is clearly a scum fake claim because see how he messed it up. My esperience has been scum are less likely to fumble than town. As in the example I posted.
Sure, there is a chance he is not scum and as claimed. Here is the deal, he claimed town. However his behavior is sketchy and only way anyone knows for sure is to get the flip. Oh, and as to who fumbles what, that is all WIFOM. Fumbling can be faked, or even a genuine misunderstanding of something twisted for the circumstance. Not going to know until the flip.
In post 441, Skelda wrote:How on earth is saying interesting a scumtell? I agree, I want MD to nameclaim and he deserves votes until he does, but is saying interesting really a great case against him? Does that seem like something scum would be more likely to say?
In post 444, Garmr wrote:Has anyone looked at MD past scum games to see if he actually used Interesting in them ............ guess that's going to fall on me
i remember linking to one game i played with him (he was town) and didn't use it.
this IS kinda funny in a sense... analyzing his word choices so closely. :p
(but still)
.. I don't understand the whole reason why I was supposed to name claim initially but:
Alright, I am a Rumblebuffin giant.
Not sure who he is, haven't seen Narnia in quite a while.
Also, I like to say interesting. If you knew me in real life, I would say interesting a lot.
S
lol. now you are mocking, mneumonic
yet still trying to push it off as if it's nothing!
In post 460, JKLM wrote:Idk if it's big enough to convict him but he could have just picked one off he most obscure characters in the book to fakeclaim
Beacuse some of what she said was true. I'm sorry, by your logic, should town always rant and rave when under attack?
It's called trying to have a rational debate with someone.