Mini 1522: AA - MFA (Game Over!)

[Kazekirimaru]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: pieguyn

[pieguyn]

is that really all you have to say? wow I am disappoint

vote: Kaze

answer my questions plz. why is my TNE vote scummier than Sakura's Kalimar vote, when she's done more of the same shit that you said I was doing? IMO the fact that you just dodged all my questions implies that I'm onto something and you don't have any good answers. not only that but I was mostly looking for an explanation, so this seems like a really knee-jerk reaction. @_@

also, a you x TNE team would explain why you ignored all my points on TNE, since it appears you're doing the same thing

explain yourself plz

[Kazekirimaru]

Yay, it worked! <3

To answer your questions in 274, You are getting hardcore defensive. And the way you changed the subject to Sakura again really pings considering the timing. Screams of "I know what I did but LOOK AT THEM AREN'T THEY SCUMMY OMFG"

The way you reacted to my naked vote though. My goodness, you couldn't have solidified my scum read any better. Well done with the OMGUS. You're a peach.

This one gets the first mafia cravat.

[pieguyn]

here it comes

To answer your questions in 274, You are getting hardcore defensive. And the way you changed the subject to Sakura again really pings considering the timing. Screams of "I know what I did but LOOK AT THEM AREN'T THEY SCUMMY OMFG"

wow nice fucking misrep. I never said Sakura's Kalimar vote was scummy. I'm asking why you seem to be cherrypicking your scumhunting. I specifically asked you about Sakura a while back, and if what you pointed out on me really pinged you, then it should have done the same re: Sakura and I assume you would have pointed it out there.

also, you didn't actually answer any of my questions ~ nice attempt to cover up your cognitive dissonance.

The way you reacted to my naked vote though. My goodness, you couldn't have solidified my scum read any better. Well done with the OMGUS. You're a peach.

and why is OMGUS a scumtell again? being afraid to vote someone who voted you is 9000x more scummy than doing so.

also, you dodged all my questions. are you saying it's more pro-town NOT to push for answers and let people blatantly dodge questions?

tl;dr: you are bullshitting reads and now that I called you on it, you're putting out even more bullshit to cover it up

[Kazekirimaru]

Sorry, the portion where I back-and-forth with scum is over. The lynching portion is now in effect. You may take your pitiful attempts at defense and straw man fallacies and shove them in the orifice of your choosing. Thanks. <3

Everyone not named pieguyn, please weigh in the last few posts.

[pieguyn]

so in other words you can't defend against my points

ok

[pieguyn]

since you seem to have declared this 1v1 over, here's my case:

1. BS's reads
2. when I call him on it, starts flailing and grasping at straws
3. makes it seem like he's answering my questions when he's not. "to answer your question" ... "nothing that answers any of your questions"
4. misreps the fuck out of me
5. accuses me of being scum via OMGUS without trying to determine whether it actually came from scum motivation
6. handwaves all my points. keep in mind he accused Sakura of doing the exact same thing. this also makes me think he's not trying to figure anything out - he seems entirely convinced I'm scum and isn't interested in confirming or denying said read
7. took 13 minutes just to make that last post? it seems likely I had him caught, he had no idea what to do, and had to ponder what to do for a while. and then he decided he's just digging his own grave by arguing with me further ~~

can we lynch this today plz

[Kazekirimaru]

so in other words you can't defend against my points

ok

More like I'm not giving you a soapbox to spout more rubbish from. You're scum. So, naturally, everything you say is going to be subverting and conniving. You know? The town doesn't need more noise to sort through before they get to the signal. The more scum is allowed to defend themselves, the more the town can indulge in the misinformation and make bad plays.

But, alas, here I am talking to you again. Damn it. This time for realsies, kay? Just sit tight. ^^

[pieguyn]

so in other words you can't defend against my points

ok

More like I'm not giving you a soapbox to spout more rubbish from. You're scum. So, naturally, everything you say is going to be subverting and conniving. You know? The town doesn't need more noise to sort through before they get to the signal. The more scum is allowed to defend themselves, the more the town can indulge in the misinformation and make bad plays.

But, alas, here I am talking to you again. Damn it. This time for realsies, kay? Just sit tight. ^^

caught scum is flaily scum ~

you're so convinced I'm scum, why do you need to say smth like this? apparently I'm obvscum and you previously had faith that everyone would be able to see it. oh right it's because you're scum and my points are valid www

also, what you said can directly be used against you too. by cutting off the 1v1 like you did, you prevent yourself from saying anything incriminating. there is no town motivation at all in the way you attempted to end our discussion. if you're so convinced I'm scum, then by pushing me more it should become even more obvious why I'm scum. this shows that your first intent is not to figure out my alignment, but to score a mislynch.

[Brian Skies]

My head just isn't in to this game right now. I'll post tomorrow night.

[Marquis]

v/la extension until maybe mon/tues sorry family things

[GuyInFreezer]

Mac was prodded.
/phone

[Mac]

apologies! away to work. content tonight or tomorrow.

[geists]

Sorry, the portion where I back-and-forth with scum is over. The lynching portion is now in effect. You may take your pitiful attempts at defense and straw man fallacies and shove them in the orifice of your choosing. Thanks. <3

Everyone not named pieguyn, please weigh in the last few posts.

I think it looks like town v town white noise.

[Kalimar]

The sudden lack of wagonpush on KA makes me believe that either all the scum are on it already or scum aren't touching it. Not sure how I feel about either situation. Meh.

@Kalimar:

Is your vote on Marquis serious? Also, gamestate comments?

@Everyone not on the KA wagon that hasn't made their opinion clear yet:

What do you think of the KA wagon?

It was voteworthy at the time. I don't really like that kind of WIFOM, but it's a personality tell more than anything. The current gamestate is a little cloak-and-dagger for my liking e.g. in the hidden meta-reads that people won't explain and in the general lack of transparency of most people.

The KA wagon seemed fairly random, all told. Reaction-testing is something I heuristically associate with town, but it wasn't done with as much

aplomb

as I'd have liked and he kept a myopic focus on Mac through the duration. I want to see more of his opinions elsewhere.

"What is your opinion on x?"

"What is

your

opinion on x?"

This is boring.

Hey guys. My role wears a suit. Discuss.

You're probably town for this post.

Probably, anyway i went through KA's ISO again and I think I may be making a mistake here due to his interactions with Mac, so im gonna follow the Nacho method for the time being and move my vote here instead.

Unvote
Vote: Kalimar

What did you like about his interactions with Mac?

God dammit not 5 pages...

@TNE:

you're probably scum. discuss plz?

Pretty sure you should start by saying "How TNE is scum" Statements

It didn't seem forced, exactly. You're a new face to me so I'm just trying to get some insight into how you think.

TNE? Not many thoughts. I liked the wagon sheep. You?

ok, I get you >w<

TNE looks like scum. don't wanna explain the reason yet :>

That. Or you just don't have anything.

These parts of TNE's post pinged as scummy.

oddly enough i haven't scumread sakura yet and idk if that's a good or a bad thing

What is Sakura's typical alignment when you scumread her?

pie is probably town for ~probably~ sure

ohi I'm townreading you too. wanna beast this game together? <3

I liked the sentiment here of wanting to work with a town-read.

Sorry, the portion where I back-and-forth with scum is over. The lynching portion is now in effect. You may take your pitiful attempts at defense and straw man fallacies and shove them in the orifice of your choosing. Thanks. <3

Everyone not named pieguyn, please weigh in the last few posts.

I think this is a personality clash and I don't currently think either of you are scum.

~

Vote: MafiaSSK

[Kalimar]

Oh, and there's something odd about the fferyllt head of geists and Cabd not interacting much so far. As I've played with their morph the cat hydra before, I would have thought they would want to sort each other out fairly early on.

[Sakura Hana]

What did you like about his interactions with Mac?

His conviction and questioning, looked genuine.

[geists]

Oh, and there's something odd about the fferyllt head of geists and Cabd not interacting much so far. As I've played with their morph the cat hydra before, I would have thought they would want to sort each other out fairly early on.

I'm quite curious to see how Cabd answers this.

[Bert]

Strong Limited access. Sorry.
(24 hours max)

I miss you!

I promise I won't dayvig you this time

nooooo, you dayvigged him?

Oh, and there's something odd about the fferyllt head of geists and Cabd not interacting much so far. As I've played with their morph the cat hydra before, I would have thought they would want to sort each other out fairly early on.

If this is true, that is very concerning.

OK be back in 1 hour. WAR EAGLE

[Cabd]

Oh, and there's something odd about the fferyllt head of geists and Cabd not interacting much so far. As I've played with their morph the cat hydra before, I would have thought they would want to sort each other out fairly early on.

I'm quite curious to see how Cabd answers this.

I'm too lazy to sort you right now. Please insert another quarter for more.

[pieguyn]

I think it looks like town v town white noise.

so you don't think it's alignment indicative how he said lurker votes are bad, but apparently had nothing to say about Sakura's vote on Kalimar?

also I'm gonna try to use this term plz forgive me if I fk it up. IMO his trajectory seemed fake as fuck. I don't see how the hell he went to the point where he would do a fake vote reaction test thing via my post 273. I'm trying to figure out what he could see in there, since he sure as hell didn't point out anything. and I don't buy how my 276 solidified my read on him. the only thing he pointed out was OMGUS and it seems fake. 0.0 notice how when I tried to find out his reasons behind all this he wouldn't even answer me.

@Kalimar:

above question is open for you too ~

[pieguyn]

nooooo, you dayvigged him?

it was in another game and he was town. I was a real dayvig and I had to use my shot D1 or I lost it. first I faked a dayvig shot on him, and then I used my real shot on him anyway. .-.

[Kazekirimaru]

Guys, I caught scum. Stop not thinking I caught scum. Why doesn't anyone ever listen to me? ._.

[GuyInFreezer]

Goodbye, my 5:4 monitor.

[GuyInFreezer]

Because I got a new one.