Mini 1522: AA - MFA (Game Over!)

[GuyInFreezer]

VoteCount 1.7

Mac (L-6):

KingdomAces

Cabd (L-6):

Brian Skies

KingdomAces (L-6):

Marquis

Sakura Hana (L-5):

MafiaSSK | Kazekirimaru

MafiaSSK (L-6):

Kalimar

Brian Skies (L-4):

giest | pieguyn | Sakura Hana

Not Voting:

Cabd, Mac, Bert, theslimer3

Deadline: (expired on 2013-12-09 10:00:00)
With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

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Mod Notes:

Dat long votecounts

[geists]

And yet you've managed to post anyways.

Okay I gotta shut this down before we get too much into ongoing games, and I'm really annoyed I can't lay the smack-down.

I'm not even talking about other ongoing games. Your VLA lasted until today and yet 388 which I'm presuming is you, was posted yesterday.

It was Nati. He made the post last night after he got home from his road trip, and we talked a bit about the game on gtalk before he crashed. Enough to confirm that we're both thinking that Brian is scum, and to kick around Cabd's partial claim. Post 388 was mostly to kick-start the process of getting a read on you.

[MafiaSSK]

And yet you've managed to post anyways.

Okay I gotta shut this down before we get too much into ongoing games, and I'm really annoyed I can't lay the smack-down.

I'm not even talking about other ongoing games. Your VLA lasted until today and yet 388 which I'm presuming is you, was posted yesterday.

It was Nati. He made the post last night after he got home from his road trip, and we talked a bit about the game on gtalk before he crashed. Enough to confirm that we're both thinking that Brian is scum, and to kick around Cabd's partial claim. Post 388 was mostly to kick-start the process of getting a read on you.

Oy. Feel free to ignore my original statement then.

[geists]

Hey Bert,

When are you going to start playing this game?

[Kazekirimaru]

no I'm pointing out how your example of my "scumread" on TNE isn't a legitimate example, since it wasn't a real scumread. I was pointing out you misinterpreted smth I did so you could fix it, on the assumption you really are town trying to get a legitimate read on me

and here you are blatantly painting everything I do as scummy again

Again, I don't care about the circumstance.

You just dropped one of those minute tells I was talking about, by the way. And it was a scum tell. You tend to victimize yourself in your defense when you're scum(you even used the exact term-"scumpainting/painting me scum" -that I caught onto in your scum meta) but when you're town you lean more towards righteous indignation.

here's where I'm at. someone ask me smth. I hate this. I feel like I'm standing on a field, the game state is the moon and normally I can see it clearly but all of a sudden smth is covering it up. somebody save me plz > <

town
6. Marquis
11. pieguyn
12. Kalimar
13. KingdomAces Image

null-town
5. Cabd Image
10. Mac Image

null
2. Bert SleepyKrew
3. Sakura Hana
4. Geists (fferyllt + Natirasha)
8. theslimer3

scum
1. Kazekirimaru
7. MafiaSSK thenewearth
9. Brian Skies

How in the world do you have a null on Sakura when 1. She's been rather active and 2. You've experimental meta with her and as such should be able to formulate SOME read in a decent fashion by now.

And my vote is an RVS vote.

Start off by telling me who you're looking at for scum thus far.

Nothing jumps out at me. Maybe Cabd.

Try again later.

You claiming that was still RVS?

You claiming that's a scumread?

lol this is hilarious.

Pieguyn - Probably scum. I don't like the way he's trying to twist words and motivations and it looks like he's trying to set people up as looking like scum so he can push a mislynch.

this is bad and you should feel bad. you don't point out any specific examples of this or why you think they came from scum motivation? also notice how you weren't pushing me whatsoever this whole time. all your questions that you did ask me seemed derived from what I was asking you and it didn't seem like you were trying to find out anything new. your reasons for scumreading me suck and your attempt to place suspicion on me is opportunistic as fuck

If you're town then you really need to stop this habit of OMGUSing everyone who throws the smallest bit of suspicion in your direction, because you constantly flail like a fish.

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I started typing out some words here about how I wasn't sold on scumBrian, then halfway through I realized I was. One of the things I look for most when attempting to nail scum isn't the case presented against them as much as their reactions to said case. When called out by ffery, Brian's first act was to attempt to minimize the damage by making it sound like the reads were stale("my vote is still RVS", etcetc) and then continuing on by attempting to assimilate into the town again by reaching out("What do you want from me?") as well as trying to diffuse/not estrange townies("I don't have a working read on you right now"). This looks like scum nervous that they've been pulled into the spotlight and they're just trying to get back on the faceless townie opinion train where they can coast safely again.

So, yeah. Sakura, Brian, and pie. That order. I'll happily lynch one of these today.

[geists]

Kaze - pieguyn and "scumpaint" in a town game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5454112

[Kazekirimaru]

Redacted.

I should leave meta to the experts.

Still, righteous indignation and all that jazz.

[geists]

So, yeah. Sakura, Brian, and pie. That order. I'll happily lynch one of these today.

Put Kalimar/Marquis in for pie and this list is probably correct.

[Kazekirimaru]

I don't really follow the conventional wisdom that there's always one lurkscum in a scumgroup.

Unless you had some other reason?

[geists]

I'm not as sure about Sakura, especially a Sakura/Brian/?? team. The timing of the first sign of a change of heart re Brian seems a little early for a bus, especially given how little traction my case initially garnered.

The Kaze vote reaction test timing, though. Maybe.

[geists]

I don't really follow the conventional wisdom that there's always one lurkscum in a scumgroup.

Unless you had some other reason?

I don't either, but pie/SSK/KA are all pretty town. Bert I'm gutting as town, Cabd could be fakeclaiming scum. That leaves slimer, Marquis, Mac, and Kalimar to sort for final scum(I kinda forgot Mac & slimer were in this game).

[geists]

In case you're wondering, no ffery or I won't sign posts and yes we're gonna keep posting like this to confuse people.

[Cabd]

Some flavor expert you are.

[geists]

I'm extending you two a bit of a reach. Nati can translate. If you're scum, well, so be it.

Hush you.

[Kazekirimaru]

In case you're wondering, no ffery or I won't sign posts and yes we're gonna keep posting like this to confuse people.

I'll accept you as one entity for the time being.

I don't see how you(or anyone) could have a solid townread on KA at this point, by the way.

[Kazekirimaru]

Al these subtle-but-not-really-subtle role breadcrumbs are making my head spin.

This must be a lot less fun for the folks not familiar with AA.(go play it, it's greatness.)

[geists]

Some flavor expert you are.

We disagree on you atm. Whodathunk I'd be the one with the tentative townread.

[Bert]

I'll be playing once I have my lappy at school tomorrow

[Bert]

I have nothing to say other than AA is like double A batteries.

[geists]

In case you're wondering, no ffery or I won't sign posts and yes we're gonna keep posting like this to confuse people.

I'll accept you as one entity for the time being.

I don't see how you(or anyone) could have a solid townread on KA at this point, by the way.

I developed that read on roughly the same set of posts that led to my initial townread of you.

[Kazekirimaru]

I have nothing to say other than AA is like double A batteries.

I'm going to poke you if you don't start playing soon.

[Kazekirimaru]

I developed that read on roughly the same set of posts that led to my initial townread of you.

Gotcha. His lurkiness doesn't affect your read at all, eh?

[geists]

I have nothing to say other than AA is like double A batteries.

Good posting.

Gotcha. His lurkiness doesn't affect your read at all, eh?

His lurking is not game-centric.

[theslimer3]

GAH, 23 PAGES? SERIOUSLY?
It's like I just replaced in and I have to catch up >.>

Post incoming once I catch up

[theslimer3]

I hate holidays.

Guize we have scums to hunt plz

Loves em.

love how incredibly vague you are

dogs > cats

SCUM!
GUILTY GUILTY GUILYYYYY!

I don't care? TNE is gone. The slot is freshly null again until its predecessor starts posting. At least, that's how I go about things.

That is an extremely good way to WiFoM your way into a mafia win. (Though especially true in newbies. Bad habit)
So either you're naive, or using this to shift around your reads from that person.

is that really all you have to say? wow I am disappoint

vote: Kaze

OMGUS much?

"What is your opinion on x?"

"What is

your

opinion on x?"

This is boring.

Hey guys. My role wears a suit. Discuss.

You're probably town for this post.

Why though?

Strong Limited access. Sorry.
(24 hours max)

I miss you!

Guys, I caught scum. Stop not thinking I caught scum. Why doesn't anyone ever listen to me? ._.

Anyone here sense bussing?

vitriolic =/= scum flaily omgus badposting

Sounds like you're writing a book about yourself.

Whew. That took way longer than I thought or needed it to take.

READS LIST:
Scum: Sakura, geists, one of (Kalimar, pieguy)
Null: Brian Skies, Bert
Town: Mac, KA, Kaze, slimer

And what was up with Kalimar's random vote on me?

I honestly don't see why I'm town here. Especially since I haven't post much most game.

VOTE: Kaze
If you flip scum, I'd be happy with Pie or Sakura next.